Prospect Info: 2019 Draft Thread: Oilers Picking 8th

[North]

As long as we don't reach we get someone good

I actually have faith that Gretzky won’t go walkabout.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

You mean same tier as McDavid.
Ekblad was just that good and is still on the same tier as Draisaitl

No I mean Draisaitl. I never saw Ekblad as a McDavid level talent.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Posted it on the GDT

I'm not a huge fan of trading down but if Vancouver offers 2019 first for Lucic and our first, that's a deal I might consider.​

Why would they offer that? That's a massive cap hit acquisition to jump a few picks up the draft.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I'd be looking hard at trading up to secure Dach or Byram. If we added our 2nd, how many spots could we jump up? 2? 3?

 

[snipes]

Zegras passing is sick. I wouldn't mind him at 8 TBH

What are his other strengths? He’s one guy I’m not as familiar with but it’s the American version of Dach/Cozens in terms that neck and neck ranking preferences.

I’m going to try and watch some film this weekend on him.

 

[snipes]

I'd be looking hard at trading up to secure Dach or Byram. If we added our 2nd, how many spots could we jump up? 2? 3?

Tough to say.

Maybe we sacrifice a Jones or Bear instead of a 2nd might help but I honestly don’t know what teams are thinking or how they’d value either of those guys.

 

[CupofOil]

Are there teams this year, like Montreal and Arizona in 2018, ahead of us that are dead set on picking for positional need?

L.A. needs a dynamic forward in the worst way, the Wings need a top Dman in the worst way so I could see the Wings reaching for one of the Swedish D or York if Byram is off the board.

 

[CycloneSweep]

L.A. needs a dynamic forward in the worst way, the Wings need a top Dman in the worst way so I could see the Wings reaching for one of the Swedish D or York if Byram is off the board.

That would be very good for us.

 

[syz]

I'd be looking hard at trading up to secure Dach or Byram. If we added our 2nd, how many spots could we jump up? 2? 3?

Crap shoot, honestly. The lack of consensus after the top 2 seems like it would make trading up tougher. Gonna be a lot of teams who have a guy they want but who are also going to have zero confidence that he'll still be available in 2-3 picks.

 

[MettleMcOiler]

I think if you trade the pick for a player. You would probably have to protect that player and may have to leave a roster player vulnerable at the expansion draft you don't want to lose.

Keep the picks because they are expansion draft protected.

After the expansion draft is over, That should be the time to trade a 1st rounder for an impact player. By then, our team should be pretty solid if built correctly.

Definitely keep the 8th overall.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I think if you trade the pick for a player. You would probably have to protect that player and may have to leave a roster player vulnerable at the expansion draft you don't want to lose.

Keep the picks because they are expansion draft protected.

After the expansion draft is over, That should be the time to trade a 1st rounder for an impact player. By then, our team should be pretty solid if built correctly.

Definitely keep the 8th overall.

Yep. We aren't in dire straits either. A couple good moves and we are back in it.

 

[780il]

Zegras would be great too. A slightly taller Mitch Marner clone. Only difference being he's left handed.

Incredibly dynamic offensive talent that can dish the puck and skate with the best of them.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

I think if you trade the pick for a player. You would probably have to protect that player and may have to leave a roster player vulnerable at the expansion draft you don't want to lose.

Keep the picks because they are expansion draft protected.

After the expansion draft is over, That should be the time to trade a 1st rounder for an impact player. By then, our team should be pretty solid if built correctly.

Definitely keep the 8th overall.

Oh.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Oh.

Let's just trade everyone away cause there is no way we can build correctly. Why try?

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Let's just trade everyone away cause there is no way we can build correctly. Why try?

Cause that's what I'm saying.

 

[CupofOil]

That would be very good for us.

It's going to be a fascinating draft.

To me, this looks like a draft with weaker high end talent but more really good players in the top 10. I look at this as a stress free draft for the Oilers with the worst case scenario being Podkolzin (due to the risk) and one of Zegras, Turcotte or Krebs being available with best case scenario being like last year with several reaches ahead of us and Dach somehow slipping to us. Just sit back at 8 and let the mayhem commence.

I felt more stress in last years' draft because it looked like the Oilers were just outside of the high end player consensus with a choice of Smith or Hayton being the realistic scenario.

 

[Lacaar]

You wonder if the pick gets traded with someone like Russell for a roster player.
You could dream Lucic.

When has that ever worked out. I'm serious when has a team traded their pick and prospect for a pro player and looked back and thought. God damn that was a good trade.
It must happen once in awhile.. but I don't recall.
I do know every time we've traded our 1st... we've gotten taken to the cleaners.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Cause that's what I'm saying.

We should trade the pick right now to fix the team but we can't build the team right anyways. So like...we are damned if we so damned if we don't. At least that's what it feels like you are saying.

 

[Joey Moss]

I don't think we need to trade up. Just sit back and let someone fall to us like we did last year. Byram is going 3rd, 4th, or 5th no question. I really wonder about Detroit. They wanted to take Hughes last year until Zadina fell to them. If Byram is off the table would they take a guy like Broberg at 6? If there's a team in the league who shouldn't be afraid of a Russian it's Detroit. Would they really let Pod slip past them? I think there is a very good chance we get Dach, Turcotte, or Cozens.

 

[CycloneSweep]

When has that ever worked out. I'm serious when has a team traded their pick and prospect for a pro player and looked back and thought. God damn that was a good trade.
It must happen once in awhile.. but I don't recall.
I do know every time we've traded our 1st... we've gotten taken to the cleaners.

That's a really good point. The Schneider trade even backfired.

 

[OilerTitanFan]

L.A. needs a dynamic forward in the worst way, the Wings need a top Dman in the worst way so I could see the Wings reaching for one of the Swedish D or York if Byram is off the board.

Broberg would be their pick. They like big swede Dman and haven't had any great ones since the departure of Lidstrom. Broberg will be their next Lidstrom.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

We should trade the pick right now to fix the team but we can't build the team right anyways. So like...we are damned if we so damned if we don't. At least that's what it feels like you are saying.

That's very different than, "let's just trade everyone away," no?

What I'm saying in that post is that the "if" is a big "if".

 

[CycloneSweep]

That's very different than, "let's just trade everyone away," no?

What I'm saying in that post is that the "if" is a big "if".

Most ifs are big ifs in hockey.

 

[These Are The Days]

*braces the moment for when HF Oil lynches me and TB12 un-adopts me*

Whoever the GM is, needs to be considerate of the situation. Let's focus on what we know

1. The Oilers are picking 8th
2. There's somewhat of an onus to succeed NOW. The whole world knows Connor said he'd stick around. That doesn't mean "don't support him" by taking baby steps. No. You push forward.
3. Can they trade up? -That is highly unlikely. They have little of value they can part with right now.
4. Will who they pick be ready to go right way? -Also highly unlikely. We're talking a few years as long as they don't decide to make a JP redux.
5. The 8th pick is indeed valuable. It's possible the Oilers can get a haul for it.

I am of the belief that unless they do big something on draft day or have a solid play on July 1st, the Oil are gonna be right back to 8th overall and another year gone by of the organization riding in neutral. So it all boils down to what you're gonna wager on. A failing Lucic and post-hip surgery JP; whose agent has expressed a desire for him to leave and the probably 10 combined goals (if you're lucky) they'll combine for.

Or you do some crazy shit and dangle the #8 overall and you get someone who is gonna help NOW. Preferably a top 6 forward.

I know it's crazy. Because it is.

And it's also because anyone who says the Oilers are going to have enough scoring to run Hitchcock's dinosaur dead puck system is either silly or lying to themselves. Let's pretend the 8th pick just got traded for said top 6 winger

Draisaitl-McDavid-Chiasson
(new wing)-RNH-Gagner

That's still not enough offense boys.

But let's do something else crazy. Let's add another 20 goals in there. You call someone like Anders Lee (maybe not Lee himself but you get it) and suddenly a guy like Kassian and his 15 goals/26 points are on the 3rd line where it belongs and is not being relied on for a primary source of offense.

Trade for a top 6 wing and sign another via UFA and sell them on playing with McDavid and Draisaitl and suddenly it's

Draisaitl-McDavid-UFA (20 goals)
Traded wing (20 goals) -RNH-Chiasson
Kassian-Brodziak-Gagner

Now suddenly your 4th line got better because Kharia is on it and you have multiple 10 goal scorers on your 3rd.

Get JP to Finland, find Precious and his $6 million salary a 1st class ticket to the sun

I know it's risky. But they can either wait til last year of RNH's contract and try to sell him on hope that his team's gonna finally get its shit together after 10 years or God forbid they lose Chiasson this year and it'll be another 2 steps backward on the way.


Don't be the person who starves because they're hopeful to outwait the famine



Consider trading out if you can get another scoring winger. If not..... yeah take your pick at 8th

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Most ifs are big ifs in hockey.

Okay?

But specifically speaking about the Oilers and the management group building it the "right way".

That's what we're talking about here.