Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part II

[dirty12]

Nope. Same pattern as in the past. If you don’t know it, I’m not reposting it for you.

There is no example of an IceDogs team buying, or selling, or standing pat with a winning record over the past half dozen years, never mind a pattern

 

[Sam14]

"It’s got to hurt your soul seeing the IceDogs with a 13-5 record" and apparent franchise best start to a season.

hahaha.
If you actually attended games at the Meridian Centre you would know how "absolutely 100% unequivocally" WRONG you are with that characterization of me! This is quite possibly one of your worst post on here!

OMG! You should "heed your own advice to others" and not critque what you have not seen in person!

 

[Sam14]

That being said, I am a homer for sure. I have my own bias. Things that happened in the last years years baffled me and pissed me off too. But you can't just dismiss what is happening now in the hopes that you are correct in 3 years time. So you can say "I told you so:".

I have been a die-hard fan since 2007; (invested 1000s and 1000s of dollars) into this franchise at home games; away games; merchandize; etc.... I have zero interest in being the "I told you so" guy. That will take care of itself, it won't be me posting it here.

A homer is one type of fan, it’s more difficult being the analytical and unbiased fan. That fan can’t simple say, “DD is terrible”, you have to support that claim with factual information. Myself and several others on here and social media, have on multiple occasions outlined the various ways (cost cutting, trades, import draft, recruitment, etc…) in which DD has done a terrible job with the franchise on and off the ice. The facts don’t lie. 2 + 2 is alway going to equal 4 whether a fan agrees with it or not.

 

[knowescape]

I am a homer for sure. I have my own bias. Things that happened in the last years years baffled me and pissed me off too. But you can't just dismiss what is happening now in the hopes that you are correct in 3 years time. So you can say "I told you so:".

I am 100% in on the team being good NOW. Because the attendance plummeted and that threatens the continued existence of the team playing in downtown St. Catharines. A decent playoff run will fix that and bring people back.)

He won't need to wait three years. DDD has a taste for winning this year. He is going to try to improve the team at the deadline, with the limited picks he has left, but fail.

The casual fan will see the stellar start, not realizing the second half is different than the first, and will wonder -"What Happened". When the team has an early exit this year and no buying power next year, that same casual fan will shake their fist at the sky and blame the fates, when it's actually predictable.

This type of result won't bring back the STH who despite not being a GM, recognizes what went wrong. That will leave 9 years left on the Meridian Centre lease. The team can't leave but the owner can.

 

[dirty12]

I have been a die-hard fan since 2007; (invested 1000s and 1000s of dollars) into this franchise at home games; away games; merchandize; etc.... I have zero interest in being the "I told you so" guy. That will take care of itself, it won't be me posting it here.

A homer is one type of fan, it’s more difficult being the analytical and unbiased fan. That fan can’t simple say, “DD is terrible”, you have to support that claim with factual information. Myself and several others on here and social media, have on multiple occasions outlined the various ways (cost cutting, trades, import draft, recruitment, etc…) DD has done a terrible job with the franchise on and off the ice. The facts don’t lie. 2 + 2 is alway going to equal 4 whether a fan likes it or not.

And despite it all, and whether you like it or not; Niagara has a pretty good and improving team that is relatively young with a small surplus of draft picks to compliment.

He won't need to wait three years. DDD has a taste for winning this year. He is going to try to improve the team at the deadline, with the limited picks he has left, but fail.

The casual fan will see the stellar start, not realizing the second half is different than the first, and will wonder -"What Happened". When the team has an early exit this year and no buying power next year, that same casual fan will shake their fist at the sky and blame the fates, when it's actually predictable.

This type of result won't bring back the STH who despite not being a GM, recognizes what went wrong. That will leave 9 years left on the Meridian Centre lease. The team can't leave but the owner can.

Hopefully Niagara leaves it alone or finds a core age player to improve the team this season and next.

 

[knowescape]

And despite it all, and whether you like it or not; Niagara has a pretty good and improving team that is relatively young with a small surplus of draft picks to compliment.



Hopefully Niagara leaves it alone or finds a core age player to improve the team this season and next.

Betting this post hasn't aged well by January 31st.

Also, hope in one hand in the other - which do you think fills up first?

 

[dirty12]

Betting this post hasn't aged well by January 31st.

There are pages and pages of posts that have not aged well from September to mid-November. Remember, the goal was playoffs and further development without selling the farm; so far, so good.

 

[knowescape]

There are pages and pages of posts that have not aged well from September to mid-November. Remember, the goal was playoffs and further development without selling the farm; so far, so good.

Heavily mortgaged the farm?

 

[Sam14]

There are pages and pages of posts that have not aged well from September to mid-November. Remember, the goal was playoffs and further development without selling the farm; so far, so good.

Wrong AGAIN! After DD is on record stating that the IceDogs were NOW going in a different direction, building through the draft and around the 07-08 core for a Mem-Cup Bid in 26-27, here was the IceDogs draft cupboard, after the 2024 OHL Priority Draft,

DRAFT CAPITAL
25: 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5
26: 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4,
27: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5
28: 2, 3, 4, 5

 

[dirty12]

Heavily mortgaged the farm?

Virgilio & Brauti are 3 year players, Loshko was FREE, the shelter NVV provides the developing D and goaltenders was well worth 3,4,5 picks imo.
It is not like the team used 10 picks on a rental that has lead to an additional zero wins.

 

[Sam14]

Heavily mortgaged the farm?

Absolutely they did. If we had a GM with some vision and understanding of draft capital and the OHL, this could be the IceDogs 24-25 team.


2024-2025 SEASON
IceDogs could have used a 2nd (not in 2025),3rd,3rd to add Brauti; signed Eliasson; claimed Loshko (either add to the roster or trade for additonal draft capital). Adding 3 good players at a minimal cost

The IceDogs would be pretty much the same team and have an actual surplus of draft picks they could continue to add on to for next year or the year after.

GOAL
OA-04 O.FLORES
05 C.ROBERTSON

DEFENSE
05 U.PODREKAR
05 A.WYCISK
<>06 G.ELIASSON drafted July 2024
<>06 J.BRAUTI
06 C.CHEYNOWSKI
07 A.FROLOV
08 N.FRASCA


FORWARDS
OA-04 A. LOSHKO ?
OA-04 G. BRYANT
05 M. PARIS
05 M. LEVIN
05 A. ASSADOURIAN
06 K. HE
06 M. WRAY
07 R. ROOBROECK
07 E. CZATA
07 I GALIYANOV
08 B.WASSILYN
08 M.CRETE

DRAFT CAPITAL..after the 2024 OHL Priority Draft
25: 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5
26: 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4,
27: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5
28: 2, 3, 4, 5