2018 NHL Entry Draft Thread (Less then 24 Hours Edition)

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No, he hasn't been at 3 on my personal list since pre-lotto. I hope he does well. I think he'll do well. I don't think he'll be a Tarasenko-level player because he doesn't contribute in that many facets of the game and isn't as involved in the play. I still think he will be a 30-goal guy, but 40-goal forwards are rare nowadays

Where was Tarasenko drafted and what was his projection? Are you basing your analysis on hindsight views of what Tarasenko is doing now lol?
 
Where was Tarasenko drafted and what was his projection? Are you basing your analysis on hindsight views of what Tarasenko is doing now lol?

Google Vladimir Tarasenko scouting report. Literally the second result is the hockey writers report where they say he could be the best player in the draft then talks about the Russian roulette factor.

Boom. Roasted.
 
Google Vladimir Tarasenko scouting report. Literally the second result is the hockey writers report where they say he could be the best player in the draft then talks about the Russian roulette factor.

Boom. Roasted.

I most certainly do not feel roasted

Scouting reports saying he could be a really good player versus scouting reports saying a guy could be a really good player. Sure roasted me.

Unless you purposefully misunderstood the rhetorical part of my post...
 
I remember him being pretty unquestionnably a top 5 talent with "the Russian factor". Weird post.

Why do you think its a weird post? Zadina is a top 5 talent lol look at the reference post. Scouting reports for these guys are similar yet apaprently one is a mediocre player in the makig while the other is Tarasenko.

I don't think you guys understood my post.
 
Why do you think its a weird post? Zadina is a top 5 talent lol look at the reference post. Scouting reports for these guys are similar yet apaprently one is a mediocre player in the makig while the other is Tarasenko.

I don't think you guys understood my post.


They're not though, that same player would go higher than Zadina if he was available this year.
 
I never thought Habs fans would be so pessimistic. I've been on here for like 3 days and the community on here is so toxic. Every post I see from The Great Schlemko is something negative. Then you guys say we're just being realistic but you all think you can predict the future. You can say your opinion but to say it as straight fact is stupid. How do you know Svechnikov will be better then Zadina? Other then on here, everyone has little to no gap between Svech and Zad. Zadina DESTROYED Svechnikov at WJC in terms of showing potential. Its embarrassing to be listed as an elite sniper and put up 0 goals. Even now, people are wondering who's going to go 2nd, Svechnikov or Zadina. If im Zadina, I use all of you haters as motivation. I prove that there is no gap between him and Svech and if there is one, Zadina is the better player.
 
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I never thought Habs fans would be so pessimistic. I've been on here for like 3 days and the community on here is so toxic. Every post I see from The Great Schlemko is something negative. Then you guys say we're just being realistic but you all think you can predict the future. You can say your opinion but to say it as straight fact is stupid. How do you know Svechnikov will be better then Zadina? Other then on here, everyone has little to no gap between Svech and Zad. Zadina DESTROYED Svechnikov at WJC in terms of showing potential. Its embarrassing to be listed as an elite sniper and put up 0 goals. Even now, people are wondering who's going to go 2nd, Svechnikov or Zadina. If im Zadina, I use all of you haters as motivation. I prove that there is no gap between him and Svech and if there is one, Zadina is the better player.

You're just looking at WJC numbers without context.

One player played on the top line and top PP unit and the other barely touched the ice on a team where they typically only take 19 years old.

Also it's a small tournament that generally means nothing. Brayden Schenn was a god. Pacioretty and McDonagh sucked. Jeff Glass posted numbers as did Pogge that would indicate they are future vezina winners.
 
I never thought Habs fans would be so pessimistic. I've been on here for like 3 days and the community on here is so toxic. Every post I see from The Great Schlemko is something negative. Then you guys say we're just being realistic but you all think you can predict the future. You can say your opinion but to say it as straight fact is stupid. How do you know Svechnikov will be better then Zadina? Other then on here, everyone has little to no gap between Svech and Zad. Zadina DESTROYED Svechnikov at WJC in terms of showing potential. Its embarrassing to be listed as an elite sniper and put up 0 goals. Even now, people are wondering who's going to go 2nd, Svechnikov or Zadina. If im Zadina, I use all of you haters as motivation. I prove that there is no gap between him and Svech and if there is one, Zadina is the better player.

That Russian coach doesn't play 17 year olds. I dont find it strange at all that Svech had trouble scoring just coming off a broken hand on the fourth line.

He had 2 goals in 7 games coming off that broken hand, but was over gpg the rest of the year. How strange.
 
I never thought Habs fans would be so pessimistic. I've been on here for like 3 days and the community on here is so toxic. Every post I see from The Great Schlemko is something negative. Then you guys say we're just being realistic but you all think you can predict the future. You can say your opinion but to say it as straight fact is stupid. How do you know Svechnikov will be better then Zadina? Other then on here, everyone has little to no gap between Svech and Zad. Zadina DESTROYED Svechnikov at WJC in terms of showing potential. Its embarrassing to be listed as an elite sniper and put up 0 goals. Even now, people are wondering who's going to go 2nd, Svechnikov or Zadina. If im Zadina, I use all of you haters as motivation. I prove that there is no gap between him and Svech and if there is one, Zadina is the better player.
Basically 2-3 users monopolizing and ruining this thread with their negativity
 
That Russian coach doesn't play 17 year olds. I dont find it strange at all that Svech had trouble scoring just coming off a broken hand on the fourth line.

He had 2 goals in 7 games coming off that broken hand, but was over gpg the rest of the year. How strange.
I don't think they'd let him play with a broken hand buddy. Im sure it was healed by then. Also, thats a bad argument because the best of the best usually score with the smallest amount of ice time and Svechnikov didn't. How strange.:laugh::sarcasm:
 
I never thought Habs fans would be so pessimistic. I've been on here for like 3 days and the community on here is so toxic. Every post I see from The Great Schlemko is something negative. Then you guys say we're just being realistic but you all think you can predict the future. You can say your opinion but to say it as straight fact is stupid. How do you know Svechnikov will be better then Zadina? Other then on here, everyone has little to no gap between Svech and Zad. Zadina DESTROYED Svechnikov at WJC in terms of showing potential. Its embarrassing to be listed as an elite sniper and put up 0 goals. Even now, people are wondering who's going to go 2nd, Svechnikov or Zadina. If im Zadina, I use all of you haters as motivation. I prove that there is no gap between him and Svech and if there is one, Zadina is the better player.
First calm down with your personal attacks.

Zadina could definately become a better player in the NHL. The WJC is the worst tournament to properly assess draft 18 years old prospect. Zadina was put in a great position with Necas. I think everybody here myself included would support Zadina if he is our selection but there are red flags with Zadina (as I already pointed out) He is not a slam dunk pick just like Svechnikov has flaws. That being said if you compare them by watching them play games and compare them with their skillset you would realize that Zadina shot release his better than Svechnikov but Svechnikov is more creative, better skater, better hands, stronger, more physical and they are both a wash defensively. I personally think Svech is clearly a notch above and I find little to no difference betweem picks 3 to 8. Also winger is our last need.. I know we need to go BPA but top 2 defenseman and center are more valuable than winger.
 
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A whole lot of crying because people want to compare Zadina to Kucherov and Tarasenko when there is nothing similar about their games except goal scoring instincts.

Zadina isn't a play driver. He's a sniper. As Therrien would say, "f*** off an accept it". If you don't believe me, watch his junior games. His Islanders series really emphasized how tough it can be for him if his line mates aren't able to help him out and set him up.
 
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I never thought Habs fans would be so pessimistic. I've been on here for like 3 days and the community on here is so toxic. Every post I see from The Great Schlemko is something negative. Then you guys say we're just being realistic but you all think you can predict the future. You can say your opinion but to say it as straight fact is stupid. How do you know Svechnikov will be better then Zadina? Other then on here, everyone has little to no gap between Svech and Zad. Zadina DESTROYED Svechnikov at WJC in terms of showing potential. Its embarrassing to be listed as an elite sniper and put up 0 goals. Even now, people are wondering who's going to go 2nd, Svechnikov or Zadina. If im Zadina, I use all of you haters as motivation. I prove that there is no gap between him and Svech and if there is one, Zadina is the better player.
How am I being negative towards Zadina? He is still a great sniper and we sure as heck need one. However, he is absolutely nowhere near Svechnikov because aside from puck protection, I don't think there is a single thing Zadina does better than Svechnikov. Not sure how it is being negative when I have been saying this all year, the Habs moving to 3rd hasn't changed my opinion on the matter.
 
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Calling someone negative isn't a personal attack and I agree. I also believe Svechnikov is a bit better then Zadina. The point of that post though was to try and wake some of these guys up and get them back to "reality" because they're all super bummed out about not getting Svech or Dahlin but really they should be grateful for moving up. I have said before that I bet we trade up to get that 10OA pick from EDM and we will be able to take Kotkaniemi or one of the premier defenders.
 
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How am I being negative towards Zadina? He is still a great sniper and we sure as heck need one. However, he is absolutely nowhere near Svechnikov because aside from puck protection, I don't think there is a single thing Zadina does better than Svechnikov. Not sure how it is being negative when I have been saying this all year, the Habs moving to 3rd hasn't changed my opinion on the matter.
Im sorry for calling you negative maybe that was a bit harsh but as much as im bummed out about not getting Svech(hypothetically), We should be grateful that we have 3OA and can pick Zadina who his IMO closer to Svech then the other prospects are to Zad. Sorry for using your name, I just feel like everything on here is super negative and no one is grateful for what we do have.
 
The fact that you think Zadina greatly outplayed Svechnikov at the WJC and TPG literally shows how there isn't an argument in any other way. Zadina(who was insanely impressive) had 8 points in 7 games. Svechnikov(who had 4th line minutes and never had the same opportunity as Zadina) had 5 points in 5 games. TPG is ONE game, not sure how you can put that much value in it...
 
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