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I appreciate your point of view and passion, but you lost me at Thompson isn't that bad. He's one of the worst regulars in the NHL, look up his advanced stats (for years) or article on the Athletic. The team actually would be improved by giving 100% of his ice time to literally anyone else. Good teams have balance, and the Kings have less balance when Thompson is playing.

Disagree, could care less what advanced stats say, he fills a whole right now, allows better players to stay off of PK, that right there, is a bonus, plus he is one of the few C to win faceoffs, his 6-8 minutes a night isn't what is wrong with this team.

Having said that, if a youngster like JAD, or Wagner, etc, makes him redundant, then by all means, waive him, trade him etc, but until then, he's doing what they cant.
 
Disagree, could care less what advanced stats say, he fills a whole right now, allows better players to stay off of PK, that right there, is a bonus, plus he is one of the few C to win faceoffs, his 6-8 minutes a night isn't what is wrong with this team.

Having said that, if a youngster like JAD, or Wagner, etc, makes him redundant, then by all means, waive him, trade him etc, but until then, he's doing what they cant.

Actually Thompson averages over 12 min per game. CF% of 40.2%. 0 points and -3 if vintage stats are more your thing. Good teams have fourth liners that aren't terrible.
 
Disagree, could care less what advanced stats say, he fills a whole right now, allows better players to stay off of PK, that right there, is a bonus, plus he is one of the few C to win faceoffs, his 6-8 minutes a night isn't what is wrong with this team.

Having said that, if a youngster like JAD, or Wagner, etc, makes him redundant, then by all means, waive him, trade him etc, but until then, he's doing what they cant.

Only player he has a higher win rate than is Adrian Kempe.

Kopitar, Carter, and JAD all have a higher win rate.
 
Yep, that's what I said genius....you just complain to complain, you complain about the lines now, you complain when he changes the line,

I'm willing to bet you are going to complain about the first PP goal because it wasn't the type that you like to see....

Buddy we're all still waiting for a post where you're not complaining about 'complaining.'


Did you happen to read Blake's quotes in the Athletic the other day? He seemed to pretty much agree with everyone else on here regarding the teams play so far. His quote about the team having too much talent to be playing this bad also seemed to insinuate that he thinks that there is a coaching problem.

Blake hasn't coached at a high level though.


LOL obviously you only read what you want to read, I've CLEARLY said NUMEROUS times, that the team has a problem....it's a roster problem, not necessarsily a coach problem, but it could be both....but you somehow seem to skip over EVERY time I've said that,

Problem I have is people *****ing about everything, again, Stevens came out with the lines from GAme 1 against SJ, OMG, they suck, he's nuts, hes gotta be fired...six games in, he changes them up, and THOSE SAME PEOPLE....are *****ing about the lines being mixed up...

No, the problem you have is that you have some good insight, but you always seem to drop some decent insight followed by an implicit or explicit "by the way you're all stupid." You don't respond to stats because they're flawed, you don't respond to criticism because you're smarter than everyone, you don't respond to opinions because everyone is wrong but you, and you don't respond to anything that would make you look less-than-perfect without some seething rage.

If you could drop the smartest-man-in-the-room charade--and yes, that's exactly what it is, because I don't give a f*** about your background, you've proven to know exactly shitall more than other posters here--you'd be a fun read and a productive poster instead of an insufferable, mouth-frothing rageposter.

In short, get over yourself or stop posting. Please.
 
Buddy we're all still waiting for a post where you're not complaining about 'complaining.'




Blake hasn't coached at a high level though.




No, the problem you have is that you have some good insight, but you always seem to drop some decent insight followed by an implicit or explicit "by the way you're all stupid." You don't respond to stats because they're flawed, you don't respond to criticism because you're smarter than everyone, you don't respond to opinions because everyone is wrong but you, and you don't respond to anything that would make you look less-than-perfect without some seething rage.

If you could drop the smartest-man-in-the-room charade--and yes, that's exactly what it is, because I don't give a **** about your background, you've proven to know exactly ****all more than other posters here--you'd be a fun read and a productive poster instead of an insufferable, mouth-frothing rageposter.

In short, get over yourself or stop posting. Please.

Naw the only person who gets the, you're all stupid post, is Sol, and that's just, because his post history lives up to that, everyone else is just reading what they want into it.

Absolutely respond to stats, in fact, here's one, Kings have ZERO PPGs, guess what, that's not good, but you do realize stats can be, are now, and will always be, manipulated to whoever is quoting them's point of view.

I asked this years ago, would you rather have a player that has 50G and 50A or one that has 20 G and 80 A and overwhelmingly people chose the 50G and 50A guy without realizing that both choices results in 100 G, so yea, you can manipulate stats all you want, another point, just now, guy says JAD has a higher win percentage than Thompson to prove his point that Thompson is terrible...well JAD has SEVEN faceoffs per ESPN, now ESPN can be wrong, but going off of stats, that's a manipulated stat, to prove a point.

I've never implied, or said, or otherwise indicated I was the smartest one in the room, I do have a higher than normal knowledge of the game, and the pro aspect of it, that's just from experience, so when I mention something like, the reason Wagner might not be suited to the rigors of NHL games because he MAY be the type of player that beats himself up and loses confidence over every mistake, that's because I've seen it and been next to it, and it happens, I don't know if that's the case with Wagner, but as an organization, I would rather they make sure he's ready, and do what's best for him, rather than roll him out there because "Clifford is terrible" which is another nonsense that fans subscribe to, Clifford is a 4th line player designed to play 6-8 minutes, bang around, crash, try to get everyone else energized, which is exactly what he does, and yet again, you have fans claiming get rid of him!! etc, it's nonsensical to get rid of a player like Clifford so you can play Rempal on the 4th line for 6 minutes, that does nothing for Rempal at all...now that he's up and going to have his cup of coffee, everyone's like, OMG they are playing him with Thompson.....and not looking at the bigger picture, you have ZERO idea what you are going to get with Rempal, do you want him on the 1st line, possibly not able to keep up and drag that line down, no, how about the 2nd, no, the 3rd? maybe put him there instead of Lewis, but you don't know, maybe that happens sometime during the game, or the next etc, people aren't willing to give anything a chance...before they bitch and complain over it.

Now you will go back and say, but it isn't a day to day thing, it's all of last season to etc, which I pointed out in one post, everyone was praising Stevens when they were winning and scoring....what changed? Only one poster had anything intelligent to say on that, and said Turgeon left, and that precipitated the change, which if that is true, Blake has to have a long, deep conversation.

I still subscribe to the fact that Stevens is trying to implement a system that the players aren't comfortable with, and aren't buying into yet, because they aren't seeing results from it.
 
LOL obviously you only read what you want to read, I've CLEARLY said NUMEROUS times, that the team has a problem....it's a roster problem, not necessarsily a coach problem, but it could be both....but you somehow seem to skip over EVERY time I've said that,

Problem I have is people *****ing about everything, again, Stevens came out with the lines from GAme 1 against SJ, OMG, they suck, he's nuts, hes gotta be fired...six games in, he changes them up, and THOSE SAME PEOPLE....are *****ing about the lines being mixed up...

He doesn't change much up. The black holes in Clifford and Thompson are playing every game.

People have huge problems with his pairing on the blue line and his ice time distribution is laughable. And his line formulation is poor at best.


And if you still think Stevens isnt a problem, you should read his quotes where he explains his bizarre decision making, making him very easy to critique.
 
He doesn't change much up. The black holes in Clifford and Thompson are playing every game.

People have huge problems with his pairing on the blue line and his ice time distribution is laughable. And his line formulation is poor at best.


And if you still think Stevens isnt a problem, you should read his quotes where he explains his bizarre decision making, making him very easy to critique.

He had the same pairing beginning of last season and they were winning, right? So obviously the pairing itself, isn't the issue.

Black holes in Clifford....man, at least you stay on point and help me proved mine...

And I am still trying to find the quote where STEVENS said he put Kovy in front of the net to confuse the other team, from everything I can find, KOVY said that as a joke...but Stevens is always going to be vanilla in his quotes to the media compared to Sutter and Tortella
 
When someone is criticized for being a moron because he's got 1 thing right and 3 things wrong, and then he changes the one thing he got right, he deserves to continue to be criticized for being a moron, even if he also changes the other 3 things he's got wrong.
 
I actually don't mind splitting up Iafallo-Kopitar-Kovalchuk. A shakeup is needed. There are certainly worse things to worry about.

I do have concerns he will misappropriate ice time for younger players, and I don't think Stevens has the competency to know how to bring the best out of the young forwards.

Things aren't working offensively. They are out of sync and unprepared. Stevens would be an idiot to keep one functional line mediocre and hoping the bottom 3 forward lines can figure it out without a catalyst.
 
It's the coach and system,why waste time dissecting the players?Until a new coach is hired, you wont truly know which players need to go until you see a new system introduced where players can be observed playing in.
 
No, the problem you have is that you have some good insight, but you always seem to drop some decent insight followed by an implicit or explicit "by the way you're all stupid." You don't respond to stats because they're flawed, you don't respond to criticism because you're smarter than everyone, you don't respond to opinions because everyone is wrong but you, and you don't respond to anything that would make you look less-than-perfect without some seething rage.

If you could drop the smartest-man-in-the-room charade--and yes, that's exactly what it is, because I don't give a **** about your background, you've proven to know exactly ****all more than other posters here--you'd be a fun read and a productive poster instead of an insufferable, mouth-frothing rageposter.

In short, get over yourself or stop posting. Please.

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A severely injury riddled Ducks lineup is about to reach their 5th win and have a 5-1-1 record without several of their top players.

It says a lot about their ability to develop NHL ready talent and how role players have elevated their game to help the team.

We saw a similar story play out last season with them after the midway point of the season. Of course we see how they always fizzle out in the post season, but being objective, I wish the Kings had the fortune of having guys step up and contribute while Brown is out.
 
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A severely injury riddled Ducks lineup is about to reach their 5th win and have a 5-1-1 record without several of their top players.

It says a lot about their ability to develop NHL ready talent and how role players have elevated their game to help the team.

We saw a similar story play out last season with them after the midway point of the season. Of course we see how they always fizzle out in the post season, but being objective, I wish the Kings had the fortune of having guys step up and contribute while Brown is out.
That's what happens when you keep all of your picks.
 
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A severely injury riddled Ducks lineup is about to reach their 5th win and have a 5-1-1 record without several of their top players.

It says a lot about their ability to develop NHL ready talent and how role players have elevated their game to help the team.

We saw a similar story play out last season with them after the midway point of the season. Of course we see how they always fizzle out in the post season, but being objective, I wish the Kings had the fortune of having guys step up and contribute while Brown is out.

To be fair it's more to do with John Gibson than anything else.

But they do happen to do it season over season because they're slowly replacing top players with other players. Emphasis on slowly, though.
 
I was going to comment on the Sucks and how with their top 3 players out they still come together as a group and play as one. Call it depth, call it whatever you want, but they remain a team even moreso in the face of adversary.

In 2012 when the Kings had top guys out or they were behind in a game, you could still count on them coming together as a team to dig their way out.

In a weird way, I think this years problems (coupled with last year) are a multitude of the veterans not taking ownership of this team along with not having enough fight as a group. As far as systems and coaching, not being prepared for the season and existing in limbo of what kind of team you are / systems you are running only add to problems.

I seem to recall a shit pre-season last year as well where we weren't even ready to take ice at the beginning of the season...

I think our depth at this point in time with vets and rookies are fine, at least on paper.
 
A severely injury riddled Ducks lineup is about to reach their 5th win and have a 5-1-1 record without several of their top players.

It says a lot about their ability to develop NHL ready talent and how role players have elevated their game to help the team.

We saw a similar story play out last season with them after the midway point of the season. Of course we see how they always fizzle out in the post season, but being objective, I wish the Kings had the fortune of having guys step up and contribute while Brown is out.

Crazy thing is they have always been this way. I hate that team on the other side of the fwy the most but I gotta give them props for what they have been able to do every year and that’s be competitive no matter the circumstances
 
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Did you happen to read Blake's quotes in the Athletic the other day? He seemed to pretty much agree with everyone else on here regarding the teams play so far. His quote about the team having too much talent to be playing this bad also seemed to insinuate that he thinks that there is a coaching problem.

How can Blake think this team has to much talent to be like this?

Does he mean they have to much talent to not have a single PP goal? Well ok yes that is true.

Does he mean they have to much talent to be better than the 7th-12th best team in the West? Sorry Rob, this is five years of sample size with the same core and secondary pieces, you can't argue the results and say they are a contender, they simply aren't and haven't been for five years, and that is with having two Top 10-12 players in the NHL who dominate and control play when they are on the ice.

The system sucks, Steven is terrible and needs to go, but it really is more the Jimmy's and Joe's than the X's and O's. God himself could come down and coach this team and it's not going to change the fact that we need drastic improvements to the roster (especially in the skill and speed department) before we are ready to contend, and sadly since we can't go back in time we need to start drafting those guys now, but then it's probably going to take the rest of Kopitar's prime to do that. It's the terrible black hole spot the Kings are in and the exact reason they should have completely started over after the 2017 season.
 
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