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2017 Draft & UDFA Thread - Part III

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Just saw a mock draft on Bleacher Report saying we take Lias Andersson. with Brannstrom falling to Edmonton right after us.

Hard to believe Brannstrom is there and we don't take him, unless someone better fell too
 
Capt McDonut said:
Just saw a mock draft on Bleacher Report saying we take Lias Andersson. with Brannstrom falling to Edmonton right after us.

Hard to believe Brannstrom is there and we don't take him, unless someone better fell too
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It's almost harder to believe Andersson falls to us. I think if he does, we take him over Brannstrom.
 
Hey guys, I try to throw a mock draft together each year. This is pretty much a worst case scenario for the Rangers and what a lot of you are expecting here, but I think the Rangers still come away with a good player. Let me know what you think!

1. NJD: Nico Hischier

2. PHI: Nolan Patrick

3. DAL: Gabriel Vilardi


4. COL: Cale Makar

5. VAN: Cody Glass


6. VGK: Casey Middlestedt

7. PHX: Miro Heiksanen


8. BUF: Jusso Valimaki

9. DET: Tim Liljegren

10. FLA: Elias Pettersson


11. LA: Michael Rasmussen

12. CAR: Owen Tippett


13. WIN: Nick Suzuki

14. TB: Martin Necas


15. NYI: Nicholas Hague

16. CGY: Eeli Tolvanen


17. TOR: Urho Vaakanainen

18. BOS: Erik Brannstrom


19. SJ: Klim Kostin

20. STL: Lias Andersson


21. NYR: Connor Timmins

22. EDM: Michael DiPietro


23. PHX: Kristian Vesalainen

24. CLB: Filip Chytil


25. MON: Callan Foote

26. CHI: Ryan Poehling


27. STL: Robert Thomas

28. OTT: Jake Oettinger


29. DAL: Henri Jokiharju

30. NSH: Shane Bowers


31. PIT: Kailer Yamamoto
 
I am a big believer in BPA so I would want Vesalainen, Chytil, or maybe Norris.

Wouldn't be thrilled with Timmins at 21. That said it's not unrealistic and that is a good "worst case scenario" mock.
 
ManUtdTobbe said:
To be fair, our 3 late round NA picks from last year look good. Gettinger, Fontaine and Ronning all had good seasons and progressed nicely.
Are there EU players that had better seasons and would have been better picks? Definitely, but all 3 were well above average picks, well above.
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Also to note that Wall was the biggest pleasant surprise out of all of them!!
 
jas said:
Okay, draftniks, talk to me about an I Suzuki. All I've heard is that he's a highly skilled top 6 center. And, ever since I heard that the Rangers interviewed him t the combine, I got the feeling the Rangers would target him if they moved up.
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Approve, he has a lot of tools in the mold of a playmaking TJ Oshie, IMO.
 
MarkMessyay11 said:
It's almost harder to believe Andersson falls to us. I think if he does, we take him over Brannstrom.
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This. Although Brannstrom looks solid on the blueline, Andersson has all the tools to be an effective two-way threat. Think, stylistically, Alex Steen can be a perfect comparison.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
I am a big believer in BPA so I would want Vesalainen, Chytil, or maybe Norris.

Wouldn't be thrilled with Timmins at 21. That said it's not unrealistic and that is a good "worst case scenario" mock.
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I agree, however, Timmins is a good reach pick there. Could be their next McDonagh/Skjei/Day type. :dunno:
 
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I'd take Foote, Thomas, or Vesalainen there before Timmins. I want Timmins if we move back a bit.
 
I Eat Crow said:
Hey guys, I try to throw a mock draft together each year. This is pretty much a worst case scenario for the Rangers and what a lot of you are expecting here, but I think the Rangers still come away with a good player. Let me know what you think!

1. NJD: Nico Hischier

2. PHI: Nolan Patrick

3. DAL: Gabriel Vilardi


4. COL: Cale Makar

5. VAN: Cody Glass


6. VGK: Casey Middlestedt

7. PHX: Miro Heiksanen


8. BUF: Jusso Valimaki

9. DET: Tim Liljegren

10. FLA: Elias Pettersson


11. LA: Michael Rasmussen

12. CAR: Owen Tippett


13. WIN: Nick Suzuki

14. TB: Martin Necas


15. NYI: Nicholas Hague

16. CGY: Eeli Tolvanen


17. TOR: Urho Vaakanainen

18. BOS: Erik Brannstrom


19. SJ: Klim Kostin

20. STL: Lias Andersson


21. NYR: Connor Timmins

22. EDM: Michael DiPietro


23. PHX: Kristian Vesalainen

24. CLB: Filip Chytil


25. MON: Callan Foote

26. CHI: Ryan Poehling


27. STL: Robert Thomas

28. OTT: Jake Oettinger


29. DAL: Henri Jokiharju

30. NSH: Shane Bowers


31. PIT: Kailer Yamamoto
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Top 10 looks pretty good. I do think Rasmussen will fall a bit.

Timmons quietly amazed some points. RD, offensive...but seems like the kind of pick where we draft for need, and not BPA.

One quote stands out to me about Timmons...

"If a Dman can't retrieve pucks properly in the OHL, he will get killed in the NHL."
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
Unsuccessful draft if we take Timmins in the first.
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I'm personally not a big fan of Timmins. I have him 31st on my personal rankings for this year's draft class. With Brannstrom off the board, Timmins is the next best offensive defenseman still on the board. I always go by the philosophy of taking the BPA, but Timmins is definitely a "swing for the fences" pick that has a high ceiling, but a decent amount of bust potential too.

Again, wouldn't be my pick personally, but I'm sure the Rangers saw him plenty scouting the Hounds watching Halverson progress two years ago and keeping tabs on Gettinger this year. They definitely saw him enough to see whether he'd be worth a mid-late 1st rounder.

HatTrick Swayze said:
I am a big believer in BPA so I would want Vesalainen, Chytil, or maybe Norris.

Wouldn't be thrilled with Timmins at 21. That said it's not unrealistic and that is a good "worst case scenario" mock.
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I don't know, I just don't like Vesalainen. Something about him rubs me the wrong way. Nothing personal or anything, but I don't think he has the stuff between the ears to be a top 6 NHL forward. Great tools but not a big enough toolbox to harness his raw talent. If he's a Ranger, we'd curse him here the same way we'd curse Kreider. The physical gifts are tantalizing, but I don't think he'll ever put it all together.

I do like Chytil. One of the youngest players draft eligible this year. I wouldn't mind him at all at #21, but when was the last time the Rangers took a Euro league player in the 1st round?

Norris I do also like, but he's too big of a reach at #21. He's more of a guy I would grab later in the 1st round/early 2nd round if the Rangers trade down. The USNTP has been fantastic lately in churning out good prospects, never hurts to grab some more.

Joey Bones said:
I agree, however, Timmins is a good reach pick there. Could be their next McDonagh/Skjei/Day type. :dunno:
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He's definitely a risky pick. If all the right buttons are pushed, he's a great, puck-moving offensive defenseman. I'm not sure I agree with the McDonagh/Skjei comparisons. More Sean Day than Brady Skjei, IMO. Both Day and Timmins could work on a lot of things without the puck on their stick.

Mac n Gs said:
I'd take Foote, Thomas, or Vesalainen there before Timmins. I want Timmins if we move back a bit.
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That's fair. I have nothing against Foote, but something about him screams Luke Schenn part II to me. The modern NHL defenseman that is effective skates better than Foote. Foote would be a top 5 pick if he was more agile, but alas...

Thomas I do like as well. Would not be upset with him at #21 at all.

Lion Hound said:
Top 10 looks pretty good. I do think Rasmussen will fall a bit.

Timmons quietly amazed some points. RD, offensive...but seems like the kind of pick where we draft for need, and not BPA.

One quote stands out to me about Timmons...

"If a Dman can't retrieve pucks properly in the OHL, he will get killed in the NHL."
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At least puck retrieval is a skill that can be improved upon and is coachable. If he irons out his defensive deficiencies, Timmins could be a heck of a player. I just don't think it's likely that he irons out all of those deficiencies.
 
Lion Hound said:
He's one of my favorite player in the draft. I think he's the type of player that both has the ability to take over a game, and also elevates the overall game of others around him. Gadjovich went from a 14 goal scorer to a 46 goals scorer on his wing. When Gadjovich came off his wing Hancock played with him to the same results. I think he's a winner, and a leader. He's a small guy that also doesn't play small. Like a Marchand. How that translates into the NHL is anyone's guess, but he to me looks like the complete package.

Knocks on him : Size, skating. The skating portion, I don't think is a huge issue. He's not a terrible skater. He's choppy. Sort of like Zucc maybe.

If 70A happens, I wouldn't be super excited if they drafted him with that selection.
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You would be or wouldn't be?

Because I don't think hes a crazy reach there at all. He has all the makings of a player who gets taken in that "2nd" group in the 1st round of his draft year and ends up better than most of the people in the 1st.

Liljegren is my guy at 7 if the Rangers acquire that pick though.
 
Geoff Gorden said:
You would be or wouldn't be?

Because I don't think hes a crazy reach there at all. He has all the makings of a player who gets taken in that "2nd" group in the 1st round of his draft year and ends up better than most of the people in the 1st.

Liljegren is my guy at 7 if the Rangers acquire that pick though.
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Typo...Meant to say I would be. Love the player. Even at 7.
 
I don't think Timmins is a bad player, just not the type of player I'd take in the first round. Don't love his upside, and don't think he's so great already.
 
Joey Bones said:
Some Undrafted Free Agent news...

- Spencer Foo is most likely signing with a team after expansion draft. Said that 4 teams are in the race; Detroit, Edmonton, Philly and Vegas.

https://theathletic.com/68620/2017/...-list-for-top-college-free-agent-spencer-foo/

- Darren Raddysh signs a 1 year deal with the Rockford IceHogs of the AHL.

https://www.secondcityhockey.com/20...tract-icehogs-blackhawks-nhl-free-agency-2017
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Did anyone ever hear what Will Butcher decided to do?
 
Would not be Liljegren at 7 a bit too risky pick? I mean, if he is available at 21, he is no-brainer. But there will be very good players (Vilardi, Petersson, Mittlestadt) available at 7 and there are some concerns about Liljegren(hockey IQ).
 
McD37 said:
Would not be Liljegren at 7 a bit too risky pick? I mean, if he is available at 21, he is no-brainer. But there will be very good players (Vilardi, Petersson, Mittlestadt) available at 7 and there are some concerns about Liljegren(hockey IQ).
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The way I look at it, Liljegren is this year's Chychrun. Very mature defenseman who had a down year and will drop a few spots after being projected as a potential 1st overall pick in the draft earlier.

I rather go for a kid who drops a few spots, than reach for one who is on the rise because of a few good months. Talent shows over time and I always use that as a better barometer than a "fluke" season
 
McD37 said:
Would not be Liljegren at 7 a bit too risky pick? I mean, if he is available at 21, he is no-brainer. But there will be very good players (Vilardi, Petersson, Mittlestadt) available at 7 and there are some concerns about Liljegren(hockey IQ).
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Idk.... Pettersson would be very intriguing there, too!! :popcorn:
 
I Eat Crow said:
He's definitely a risky pick. If all the right buttons are pushed, he's a great, puck-moving offensive defenseman. I'm not sure I agree with the McDonagh/Skjei comparisons. More Sean Day than Brady Skjei, IMO. Both Day and Timmins could work on a lot of things without the puck on their stick.
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What I meant, with the comparison, was that Timmins goes in line with a big, mobile, puck mover like Day/McDonagh/Skjei
 
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