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2016 Tank & Rebuild Thread: 6 Pts Behind Winnipeg. Tank Chugging Along

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The Cobra said:
this is only year one of the rebuild imo. babcock ll shanny lemaire have transformed this team to players who play hard and with heart, its fans into fans again, and the media into desperate vagina whipped beggars

next season will only be better...i hope we dont finish last, better off in the bottom five
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End of year one. We've just started year two.

The day the scorched earth policy was revealed to the public was the day the entire organization decided to move in a new direction. Everything following that day (February 15, 2015 Franson trade, February 25, 2015 Winnik trade) was geared towards a long term rebuild.
 
Ruski said:
It's amazing to see so many tank fans here. I am not *****ing about the losses or anything but i hope folks realize that a last place finish is still just a 20% chance at Matthews and only slightly better than 50/50 to stay in top 3!
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I rather take those chances of clinching last place because worst case they will get the 4th overall pick.
 
sxvnert said:
End of year one. We've just started year two.

The day the scorched earth policy was revealed to the public was the day the entire organization decided to move in a new direction. Everything following that day (February 15, 2015 Franson trade, February 25, 2015 Winnik trade) was geared towards a long term rebuild.
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Geez, just imagine where we could be at right now if the switch didn't click and we didn't start heading in the right direction. We wouldn't have Marner, or a myriad of other prospects we've accumulated over the past year. This year, we would be well out of the playoff bubble but also outside the lottery picture, with half as many 2016 picks at most, stuck in perpetual mediocrity. Thank God we made the change.
 
kk87 said:
Geez, just imagine where we could be at right now if the switch didn't click and we didn't start heading in the right direction. We wouldn't have Marner, or a myriad of other prospects we've accumulated over the past year. This year, we would be well out of the playoff bubble but also outside the lottery picture, with half as many 2016 picks at most, stuck in perpetual mediocrity. Thank God we made the change.
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:) Amazed at what Shanahan has accomplished in one year. One can only imagine what they'll accomplish by next years deadline.
 
Ruski said:
It's amazing to see so many tank fans here. I am not *****ing about the losses or anything but i hope folks realize that a last place finish is still just a 20% chance at Matthews and only slightly better than 50/50 to stay in top 3!
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and 2nd last has a worst chance at #1 and a guarantee of only 5th
and 3rd last had an even worse chance at #1 and a guarantee of 6th
and 4th last has an even worse chance at #1 and a guarantee of 7th
...

Moral of the story: While last is far from a guarantee it's the best odds and best guaranteed minimum pick you're going to get.

I'm not cheering for last because it means we get Matthews. I'm cheering for last because it gives us the best possible chance we could have at Matthews, and it guarantees us that Hunter gets one of 4 prospects he likes the best. No other spot guarantees that.
 
Riellyfan04 said:
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Very nice

:laugh:
 
Canada4Gold said:
and 2nd last has a worst chance at #1 and a guarantee of only 5th
and 3rd last had an even worse chance at #1 and a guarantee of 6th
and 4th last has an even worse chance at #1 and a guarantee of 7th
...

Moral of the story: While last is far from a guarantee it's the best odds and best guaranteed minimum pick you're going to get.

I'm not cheering for last because it means we get Matthews. I'm cheering for last because it gives us the best possible chance we could have at Matthews, and it guarantees us that Hunter gets one of 4 prospects he likes the best. No other spot guarantees that.
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and -
we're 1st in almost every round we have a pick in.

can't beat that.
it's not just about the first round y'all.
 
Standings for the Leafs Pick as of Tuesday, 8th March
this is including points % as well - so thankful NHL.com has this

30th: Leafs -65 gp, 53pts (firmly 30th)
29th: Oilers - 68gp, 59pts (0.4338)
28th: Flames - 66gp, 59pts (0.4469)
27th: Jets - 65gp, 59pts
26th: Coyotes - 66gp, 62pts
25th: Columbus - 66gp, 62pts (they have the same points % at 0.4696)



Standings for the Penguins Pick as of Tuesday, 8th March
this is including points % as well as WC positioning. I don't know how to do tables, sorry

3rd: Islanders: 63gp, 79pts

wildcard positioning
1st WC: Penguins - 65gp, 76pts
2nd WC: Red Wings - 65gp, 75pts

Picks based on points %
13th: Avalanche - 68gp, 72pts (0.5294)
14th: Wild - 67gp, 72pts (0.5373)
15th: Flyers - 65gp, 73pts (0.5615)
16th: Red Wings - 65gp, 75pts (0.5769)
17th: Penguins - 65gp, 76pts (0.5846)
 
As long as we have a 3rd line center, playing on the 1st line, playing the way he did last night, last place will be a lock. :yo:
 
GBLeaf said:
I've really never paid attention to that.

So regardless of the lottery, 30th will pick 31st, 61st... etc?
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It's almost like getting a later pick in the preceding rounds. It's 29 better than what another team will pick in every round. It's an important draft for us.
 
Daisy Jane said:
Standings for the Leafs Pick as of Tuesday, 8th March
this is including points % as well - so thankful NHL.com has this

30th: Leafs -65 gp, 53pts (firmly 30th)
29th: Oilers - 68gp, 59pts (0.4338)
28th: Flames - 66gp, 59pts (0.4469)
27th: Jets - 65gp, 59pts
26th: Coyotes - 66gp, 62pts
25th: Columbus - 66gp, 62pts (they have the same points % at 0.4696)



Standings for the Penguins Pick as of Tuesday, 8th March
this is including points % as well as WC positioning. I don't know how to do tables, sorry

3rd: Islanders: 63gp, 79pts

wildcard positioning
1st WC: Penguins - 65gp, 76pts
2nd WC: Red Wings - 65gp, 75pts

Picks based on points %
13th: Avalanche - 68gp, 72pts (0.5294)
14th: Wild - 67gp, 72pts (0.5373)
15th: Flyers - 65gp, 73pts (0.5615)
16th: Red Wings - 65gp, 75pts (0.5769)
17th: Penguins - 65gp, 76pts (0.5846)
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Not really firmly 30th when we have played three less games than the 29th team...
 
Eb said:
Not really firmly 30th when we have played three less games than the 29th team...
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to be fair, looking at our schedule, we'll be lucky to get a win out of those extra three games.

Right now we are averaging just 1 win every 5.5 games the past season and a half.

With 17 games remaining, that means we are only on pace to go 3-14.

Realistically, we go maybe 6-11. That's being very generous though
 
Eb said:
Not really firmly 30th when we have played three less games than the 29th team...
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going by the points percentage we're firmly 30th.
if we won the 3 games - we're tied with Edmonton - but we win on the tie breakers.
 
Did the lottery simulator 30 times.

1st = 5 times
2nd = 5 times
3rd = 5 times
4th = 15 times
 
Tank Commander Cor said:
to be fair, looking at our schedule, we'll be lucky to get a win out of those extra three games.

Right now we are averaging just 1 win every 5.5 games the past season and a half.

With 17 games remaining, that means we are only on pace to go 3-14.

Realistically, we go maybe 6-11. That's being very generous though
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Going 3-14 is generous lol

Realistically, with the schedule ahead against teams like Florida in the mix, we go more like 2-15

The only teams we have a remote chance of beating in the remaining games are Columbus and Buffalo.
 
Ruski said:
It's amazing to see so many tank fans here. I am not *****ing about the losses or anything but i hope folks realize that a last place finish is still just a 20% chance at Matthews and only slightly better than 50/50 to stay in top 3!
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Even still, that guarantees us at worst 4th overall, better than outside the top 5

Another loss for Dubois
Suck For Tkachuk
Lose another for the Brother
or Go on a Run for Chychrun

And pray for a top 3 pick
 
Clutch loss last night, felt bad Nylander got robbed of a point when Greening didn't convert on that sweet feed.

Hopefully Pittsburgh and our competition wins tonight.
 
Ruski said:
It's amazing to see so many tank fans here. I am not *****ing about the losses or anything but i hope folks realize that a last place finish is still just a 20% chance at Matthews and only slightly better than 50/50 to stay in top 3!
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hey thanks captain obvious :laugh:

I guess the slotting of our other picks don't matter to you?

ya want the 31rst slot or 36?

61 or 66?

91 or 96?


i'll take every every single inch of extra help I can get my hands on.:nod:
 
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