2016 NHL Draft: Russian Prospects

[Caser]

Sokolov!!! To Minnesota!

 

[kabidjan18]

This may be stirring the pot a little but...9 of the 10 Russians taken after the 3 round so far have been Russian based players. So in reference to that CHL import draft that's coming up in a few days maybe if someone calls you on the phone and asks you if you're interested in extra "exposure" you should idk...say "no thank you I'll stay home" and hang up...

Sokolov right on cue as I was saying haha

 

[Caser]

This may be stirring the pot a little but...9 of the 10 Russians taken after the 3 round so far have been Russian based players. So in reference to that CHL import draft that's coming up in a few days maybe if someone calls you on the phone and asks you if you're interested in extra "exposure" you should idk...say "no thank you I'll stay home" and hang up...

Sokolov right on cue as I was saying haha

Exactly, that's the main conclusion I have made so far: from the CHL only Sergachyov had a good draft.

 

[Caser]

Dmitri Zaitsev has impressed the Capitals enough for the 207-th pick.

 

[DeflatedFootball7]

Dmitri Zaitsev has impressed the Capitals enough for the 207-th pick.

Interesting that he played NAHL and not CHL.

 

[Caser]

Kuznetsov remains unpicked, that's the biggest omission today I guess.

And yes, I probably say that after every draft, but I'm pretty shocked now, a lot of conclusions to be made.

 

[kp61c]

Kuznetsov remains unpicked, that's the biggest omission today I guess.

And yes, I probably say that after every draft, but I'm pretty shocked now, a lot of conclusions to be made.

not an omission for me, he's overhyped big time, never impressed me at all. abramov is criminally low, at lest he didn't end up in canada.
sokolov is a fail on two sticks. should have stayed in russia. with less exposure he'd have been drafted earlier, lel.

 

[Caser]

Just had this somewhat absurd thought, regarding the small number of Russian CHL-ers drafted this year: we are frequently complaining about the lack of CHL developed success stories and maybe some GMs have started to notice that misproportion too?

 

[malkinfan]

Official numbers 12 drafted who played KHL/MHL only 5 drafted from the NA leagues and 2 of those guys have been locks for years and would have been higher if they stayed in Russia due to less exposure (as poster says above). Like if Abramov played on the U18 team you would have to think he goes higher than Kayumov. Should be good enough evidence for guys who are thinking about crossing the ocean this year.

Sounds like Hextal doesnt mind Rubtsov staying in Russia, Rusbtsov changes story to "undecided about where will end up next year" from "going to CHL next year" lol.

 

[Yakushev72]

If you are not drafted in the first 2 rounds, you are statistically unlikely to end up in an NHL uniform anytime soon. Abramov and Sokolov were supposed to be the shiny gems of the '98 born group of Russian prospects, but the NHL management obviously has a very low opinion of this Russian crop. Abramov drafted in the 3rd round, which means that his team will have so much invested in prospects drafted ahead of him that his chances are very small on most counts, but add to that the fact that he is somewhat of a shrimp himself, and it looks like his best option might be Magnitka Nk.

When a player is drafted in the 7th round, and he is actually playing junior hockey in Canada while rehearsing for an NHL roster spot at the time, you must conclude that the Wild decided to use the 7th round pick rather than flushing it down the toilet. Sokolov has no chance of ever ending up in the NHL, according to the NHL general management and scouts who passed over him 150 times before saying, "oh, what the hell does it hurt to take him in the 7th round?" They know they'll never get down to the 7th round. These guys have AHL, ECHL written all over them, according to NHL GM's.

 

[nomorekids]

Biggest surprise so far:

The Predators Eastern European scout, Martin Bakula, has a lot of credibility in the organization. He found an unknown in Marek Mazanec that has turned out pretty well. He is apparently pretty high on Volkov. Sometimes scouts just see something I guess.

What's his outlook for this season? Is he owned by a KHL team?

 

[DeflatedFootball7]

SKA drafted him in the 2014 draft.

 

[Woodhouse]

Vasiliy Glotov (C/W, 5'11", 159 lbs; MHL: 23G+32A in 42GP; 1 year overager)

Why he can be drafted: fast skating, smart center with great hands, who has shown a huge production increase in MHL this year.
Why he probably won't be drafted: lack of physicality (which is important for a center) and lack of exposure.

Vasily Glotov to Buffalo at 190, wasn't it like Tim Murray didn't like Russians?

Sounds like two Sabres scouts were watching him per Greg Royce: "A little bit of an unknown. Anders [Forsberg] and myself, we've seen him quite a few times. He's a 5.10, 5.11, little guy. Dynamic, very skilled, creates from nothing. I think he's one of those hidden gems that we feel very pleased that we get him here. He'll be here for development camp. We're hoping to get the paperwork all done, but I think people will be very pleased when they see his skills."

Another year in MHL or does Glotov have other plans for '16-17?

 

[Caser]

Official numbers 12 drafted who played KHL/MHL only 5 drafted from the NA leagues and 2 of those guys have been locks for years and would have been higher if they stayed in Russia due to less exposure (as poster says above). Like if Abramov played on the U18 team you would have to think he goes higher than Kayumov. Should be good enough evidence for guys who are thinking about crossing the ocean this year.

Sounds like Hextal doesnt mind Rubtsov staying in Russia, Rusbtsov changes story to "undecided about where will end up next year" from "going to CHL next year" lol.

It's not even the percentage of CHL-ers that is surprising, it's the final draft position itself (except, of course, Sergachyov) - seemed like it would be the other way around and those kids were subject to a heavy 'Russian factor'.

If you are not drafted in the first 2 rounds, you are statistically unlikely to end up in an NHL uniform anytime soon. Abramov and Sokolov were supposed to be the shiny gems of the '98 born group of Russian prospects, but the NHL management obviously has a very low opinion of this Russian crop. Abramov drafted in the 3rd round, which means that his team will have so much invested in prospects drafted ahead of him that his chances are very small on most counts, but add to that the fact that he is somewhat of a shrimp himself, and it looks like his best option might be Magnitka Nk.

When a player is drafted in the 7th round, and he is actually playing junior hockey in Canada while rehearsing for an NHL roster spot at the time, you must conclude that the Wild decided to use the 7th round pick rather than flushing it down the toilet. Sokolov has no chance of ever ending up in the NHL, according to the NHL general management and scouts who passed over him 150 times before saying, "oh, what the hell does it hurt to take him in the 7th round?" They know they'll never get down to the 7th round. These guys have AHL, ECHL written all over them, according to NHL GM's.

Definitely out-of-the-box thinking by the Wild GM.

The Predators Eastern European scout, Martin Bakula, has a lot of credibility in the organization. He found an unknown in Marek Mazanec that has turned out pretty well. He is apparently pretty high on Volkov. Sometimes scouts just see something I guess.

What's his outlook for this season? Is he owned by a KHL team?

That's the only explanation I can think of - that the scouts saw something, because it is quite an unobvious pick. He is probably contracted with SKA for next season, so it's likely that he will spend next season trying to establish himself as a legit MHL starter.

Sounds like two Sabres scouts were watching him per Greg Royce: "A little bit of an unknown. Anders [Forsberg] and myself, we've seen him quite a few times. He's a 5.10, 5.11, little guy. Dynamic, very skilled, creates from nothing. I think he's one of those hidden gems that we feel very pleased that we get him here. He'll be here for development camp. We're hoping to get the paperwork all done, but I think people will be very pleased when they see his skills."

Another year in MHL or does Glotov have other plans for '16-17?

No idea about the plans, bu if Glotov decides to go to CHL, it will mean that he probably will go to AHL one year after that and I don't think it is a good idea, as it is unlikely that he could get enough physical strength to be able to compete at the AHL level during just one year.

 

[ozo]

So who could imagine that Mamin will get drafted? Wss he even on your radar as a potential draftee last year, Caser?

 

[Caser]

So who could imagine that Mamin will get drafted? Wss he even on your radar as a potential draftee last year, Caser?

Last year I made a separate top 10 overager list and I remember that Mamin was the last guy cut from there. But yes, Volkov and Mamin are the guys I couldn't imagine getting drafted this year at all.

 

[Fantomas]

I would have expected Svetlakov, not Mamin.

 

[Fantomas]

Volkov, as mentioned, is also a shocker. I mean, why him but not Krasotkin, for example? Russians remain woefully underscouted.

 

[ozo]

Last year I made a separate top 10 overager list and I remember that Mamin was the last guy cut from there. But yes, Volkov and Mamin are the guys I couldn't imagine getting drafted this year at all.

Next year you surely will be forgiven if your overager list will include some wild choices. Also I agree, that it still seems that Russian drafting out of MHL is total guesswork.

 

[Caser]

Volkov, as mentioned, is also a shocker. I mean, why him but not Krasotkin, for example? Russians remain woefully underscouted.

That is a simple question and the answer is 'Size' - all the goalies drafted this year are 6'1" and bigger.

 

[Caser]

I would have expected Svetlakov, not Mamin.

Mamin's contract expires in 2017, Svetlakov's - in 2019.

 

[McMatthews]

Maple Leafs drafted three Russians.

Yegor Korshkov
Vladimir Bobylyov
Nikolai Chebykin

Korshkov was scouted by Yevgeni Namestnikov and Chebykin was scouted by Ari Vuori.

I really like the Korshkov pick.

 

[BoltSTH]

Bolts only drafted 1 Russian born prospect, but that was the biggest Russian (biggest of the draft) in Oleg Sosunov 6' 8" 243lb. So I count as 2;.

http://www.boltprospects.com/oleg-sosunov
The ultimate boom or bust pick.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

No Alex Polunin? He has very good potential.

 

[Zine]

No little Popugayev either. Thought somebody might take a flier on him.