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Tobi Wan Kenobi
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Keller. He fits perfectly with this group. We've got some real good shooters now we just need a guy with elite vision and playmaking ability to find Boeser, Virtanen, McCann and Horvat in prime scoring locations. Watch the highlights of the USA vs Czech quarterfinals on YouTube. He's always making plays happen. So explosive and creative. He's a huge lift to the group. Will instantly raise the game of whoever he plays with.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8sCtNKMoteU
#19 and he's basically in every clip
WTG
December 5th
What's wrong with the 6th pick?
It's what I'm expecting us to get. That way if we get better it'll be gravy.
Besides there are still really solid players available @ 6.
The 4-10 picks are all on the same tier IMO.
I find it odd that I keep hearing people knock his skating.... There's no issue with it, he's a solid skater with good speed, anyone who has said he's slow hasn't watched much of him. Kid gets pretty underrated around here, I think he's right there with the best of the D man in this draft. Bean also gets knocked on for his defensive game which is pretty good for such an offensive weapon. He'll be like a Sanheim pick, after he's drafted people will wonder why he went later. I think after next season Beans stocks will sky rocket, and I wouldn't be surprised if people start to think of him as a potential top pairing D man, just my two cents. I really like Bean and he'll fix our future PP issues from the back end.
To be fair Sanheim still isn't very good of a defender...
Bean needs to make improvements to his overall quickness if he's going to be an NHL PP QB. He can get there but there's still a question of whether he can develop. The goals he scored this year in junior will be hard to come by at higher levels IMO. That's not even mentioning his defensive game and strength. I don't deny there's upside but there are also plenty of question marks that people are overlooking. At international tournaments and the TPG he hasn't looked like much of an offensive weapon with less time and space, same thing in the WHL playoffs.
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December 5th
Benning has been pretty open so far in his interviews that he is absolutely willing to trade down.
Which I think is a good idea, Bean + > Consensus 6th overall pick
WTG
December 5th
Bean and Sanheim were used as a shutdown pairing because Kanzig (their usual shutdown defensemen) was just too slow to handle DeBrusk & Spacek. So Bean wasn't really being utilized offensively.
Also, I have absolutely no problem with the goals that Bean scores. They are quick, accurate shots or smart plays to fake out defenders. Bean loves the short side above the shoulder spot for his wristers. It's not like those goals are necessarily "junior hockey goals". In fact I'd argue that they are very much NHL goals.
Bean's wrist shot really stands out.
He seems to be able to pick corners from mid-range.
Arguably the best D purely from an offensive stand point in the o-zone.
However his overall game imo is lacking.
D are so hard to project.
I prefer Canucks stick with a forward. If Canucks trade down I rather we pick the Jost, Keller type forwards.
He seems to be able to pick corners from mid-range.
Arguably the best D purely from an offensive stand point in the o-zone.
However his overall game imo is lacking.
D are so hard to project.
I prefer Canucks stick with a forward. If Canucks trade down I rather we pick the Jost, Keller type forwards.
Agree with all of this. Wouldn't even mind picking him at 4 or 5.
After the top 3, I'd want one of Dubois, Tkachuk or Keller
thefeebster
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I can't really defend that.
But hey, maybe he just hasn't watched Sergachev that much and the game he's watched he played extremely well.
I looked at his previous lists (2014 & 2015) It really isn't all that bad.
RLR often differs from the general consensus, some very funny one-liners and Woodlief does throw some curve balls out there. Like Button, i respect their opinions/time/effort and lists, but that doesn't mean you have to agree with them all the time. Both have had really perplexing opinions in the recent past.
I prefer Hockey Prospect the most, but this year, the way i see the OHL players is very different than them, when it is usually very inline as their top scouts are OHL based. I would say their ranking of the OHL defenders is nearly reversed to mine. I mean Stanley still at 21? I just don't know about that.
None beyond the top 3 should be considered, beyond a short trial.
Horrorshow
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Any other year and I'm clamouring for two first round picks.
But to finish 3rd worst in the league and then not pick until 13? That would hurt. I really want to leave this draft with an elite prospect.
lawrence
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I'm sure you also did this a million times, I just again ran the simulator at least 30 times this time, it was not to see how many times we get the 1st pick, this is to see how many times, Vancouver, Toronto, and Edmonton loses out in the lottery (which we will for sure pick 6) and I can tell you, we finished in the top 3 far more time then we finishing 6th. I think only 3 or 4 times, we ended up with 6.
ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
If were drafting at 6 it's not elite.
What should scare anyone is Jim trading. You know he will lose badly.
Maybe stay at 6.
clunk
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ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
Tobi Wan Kenobi
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GPNuck
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New top 6...
1 Laine
2 Matthews
3 Pulj
4 Dubois
5 Tkachuk
6 Jost ... jumping on his bandwagon but I really like his game
What the hockey writers had to say about Jost.
Jost is a wonderful combination of speed, smarts and size. He sees the ice very well and is just as dangerous setting up a play as he is taking a shot. He’s also shown considerable on-ice leadership for a player of his not-so-advanced age, serving as the Vees captain this past season and also donning the C for Team Canada at recent international events. To make a long story short, he’s been an excellent player in every level he’s stepped onto the ice at and has earned the trust and respect of teammates and coaches along the way.
They also went onto say that the BCHL is an inferior league to the WHL so its harder to judge how good he is but he's proving at the U18's that he can not only compete with the best but dominate!
1 Laine
2 Matthews
3 Pulj
4 Dubois
5 Tkachuk
6 Jost ... jumping on his bandwagon but I really like his game
What the hockey writers had to say about Jost.
Jost is a wonderful combination of speed, smarts and size. He sees the ice very well and is just as dangerous setting up a play as he is taking a shot. He’s also shown considerable on-ice leadership for a player of his not-so-advanced age, serving as the Vees captain this past season and also donning the C for Team Canada at recent international events. To make a long story short, he’s been an excellent player in every level he’s stepped onto the ice at and has earned the trust and respect of teammates and coaches along the way.
They also went onto say that the BCHL is an inferior league to the WHL so its harder to judge how good he is but he's proving at the U18's that he can not only compete with the best but dominate!
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Horrorshow
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at 6 you still have a shot at Dubois, Tkachuk, or any of the defensemen. Not that I'd necessarily call the group at 6 "elite" but the drop off between those prospects and what's available at 13 is significant. Not worth it.
SgtToody
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Going by past practice I'd wonder if it's worth it - every GM has been able to get Benning to toss in a 2nd or 3rd pick to 'even out' the trade...
NoShowWilly
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you are not going to get a 12 to 22 pick for hansen. perhaps if you add in the 33rd pick you would probably be able to move up with Hansen but not alone.
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