2016-17 Rangers Prospects Thread - Part IV (Stats in Post #1; Updated 5.30)
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Joey Bones
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I get the feeling people always expect forward prospects to be top-6 forwards in the NHL. There are basically 5 options for every prospect.
1. Top-6 forward (5%)
2. Bottom-6 forward (15%)
3. Minor league player (25%)
4. Part of a trade (5%)
5. Bust (50%)
1. Top-6 forward (5%)
2. Bottom-6 forward (15%)
3. Minor league player (25%)
4. Part of a trade (5%)
5. Bust (50%)
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Clutch again! Fontaine breaks a 1-1 tie in the 2nd with this goal on the PP. Game is between periods.
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Better GIF of the Fontaine goal. Unfortunately, they gave up 2 quickies and are down 3-2 halfway through the 3rd.
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Rouyn-Noranda lost 5-2.
Gropp scratched again tonight....which is really ruining the POs for me. Just like last year with him.
Gropp scratched again tonight....which is really ruining the POs for me. Just like last year with him.
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I was just asking myself last night when we were gonna give him an ELC. This is well deserved. ****ing awesome.
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Wish I could help with an answer, but I haven't watched any Regina in the PO's. His stat line is what you'd expect, I guess. 2 Assists in 6 games, and is +6. But yeah...I pretty much know nothing about his game right now.
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2016 draft class looking good so far. At the end of their first post-draft seasons....
3 (81) D: Sean Day (ELC)
4 (98) D: Tarmo Reunanen (Undetermined)
5 (141) W: Tim Gettinger (ELC)
6 (171) C: Gabriel Fontaine (ELC)
6 (174) G: Tyler Wall (NCAA prospect, but most definitely looks promising)
7 (201) RW: Ty Ronning (ATO with Hartford currently)
All, but Reunanen (stat-wise), had progressed this year than their previous seasons. That is very good news. Also, elite prospects has Tarmo playing with TPS next season in Liiga. If true, that is also good news.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=221513
3 (81) D: Sean Day (ELC)
4 (98) D: Tarmo Reunanen (Undetermined)
5 (141) W: Tim Gettinger (ELC)
6 (171) C: Gabriel Fontaine (ELC)
6 (174) G: Tyler Wall (NCAA prospect, but most definitely looks promising)
7 (201) RW: Ty Ronning (ATO with Hartford currently)
All, but Reunanen (stat-wise), had progressed this year than their previous seasons. That is very good news. Also, elite prospects has Tarmo playing with TPS next season in Liiga. If true, that is also good news.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=221513
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Very strong in the two games I saw. Highlight packages I've seen of the other games show exactly what you'd expect out of a steady defensive defenseman - very little. He's at his best when you're not noticing him, and that's often.
Not sure how much of that was due to the fact that the Hitmen are terrible, but he was exceptional at shutting them down in the first round. Haven't seen/heard anything in the second round yet.
TPS re-signed Tarmo which is why he's listed as playing next year for them. Whether or not he plays there or is loaned out to a club in Mestis (or elsewhere) is yet to be determined.
Pavel Buchnevich
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I think thats a very optimistic picture. Reunanen looks like a bad pick at the moment, Ronning and Fontaine probably are still long shots, despite their contract statuses. Day, Gettinger and Wall have some promise, but none are sure things.
They're all progressing, except maybe Reunanen but we don't really know for sure since noone is watching Mestis and even if we did it's hard to judge since we don't really know how strong Mestis is. When every pick you made is progressing, then that's good.
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Yeah, thanks Blurt. I think I'll try and catch this one. NHLN is much better than a laptop stream...and they should have quality announcers. Gives me a reason to watch Zboro. Appreciate it!
Thanks. I was reading the Provorov thread on the main boards and obviously Zborovsky isn't Provorov, but I got interested in shut down D types. Is his ceiling, solid top 4 guy in the NHL?
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I watched Regina's game today. I came away with the same observations I usually always do.
He's impeccable in board battles, very positionally sound, boxes out well in front of net, uses his stick to his advantage in one on ones in the same types of way that Staal does. He's naturally stay at home, you can even notice in his defense partnership that he kind of waits a few feet behind the blue line with his defense partner pinched in. He plays as that safety valve type of player when his team has the puck, although he's not offensively incapable. He can rush the puck up the ice, make the needed passes out of his zone, stickhandle pretty well for a 6'5 player, shoot the puck, pinch in, its just not his game. Your reaction won't be that he's putrid offensively like it is for someone like Staal, but you won't comment about his offense that much because its not that big of a role that he plays offensively. His skating stride looks very smooth, it doesn't seem forced. And I would say he's much closer defensively to Staal than Girardi. He's not going to deliver that many big hits, attempt many sliding poke checks or get in front of every shot. He makes quieter defensive plays.
So I think a fair expectation is a middle pairing defenseman who gives you 20-25 points per season, and is a fixture in a shutdown role and on the PK as one of the team's better defensive players. Think current Marc Staal being a little less offensively inept and a little more of a physical presence. This was a good pick by the Rangers. This kid is going to reach the NHL and play an important role, I'm pretty sure of that. Might not be the type of player everyone loves, but its a necessary type of role to have on your team. And he's a right shot. He's one of our better prospects. Easily top 5, I think.
He's impeccable in board battles, very positionally sound, boxes out well in front of net, uses his stick to his advantage in one on ones in the same types of way that Staal does. He's naturally stay at home, you can even notice in his defense partnership that he kind of waits a few feet behind the blue line with his defense partner pinched in. He plays as that safety valve type of player when his team has the puck, although he's not offensively incapable. He can rush the puck up the ice, make the needed passes out of his zone, stickhandle pretty well for a 6'5 player, shoot the puck, pinch in, its just not his game. Your reaction won't be that he's putrid offensively like it is for someone like Staal, but you won't comment about his offense that much because its not that big of a role that he plays offensively. His skating stride looks very smooth, it doesn't seem forced. And I would say he's much closer defensively to Staal than Girardi. He's not going to deliver that many big hits, attempt many sliding poke checks or get in front of every shot. He makes quieter defensive plays.
So I think a fair expectation is a middle pairing defenseman who gives you 20-25 points per season, and is a fixture in a shutdown role and on the PK as one of the team's better defensive players. Think current Marc Staal being a little less offensively inept and a little more of a physical presence. This was a good pick by the Rangers. This kid is going to reach the NHL and play an important role, I'm pretty sure of that. Might not be the type of player everyone loves, but its a necessary type of role to have on your team. And he's a right shot. He's one of our better prospects. Easily top 5, I think.
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Pavel Buchnevich
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Imagine a little better offensively and a little more of a physical presence, thats a middle pairing defenseman. I know Staal's had a bad season, but he's not an AHL player. He's had some really bad stretches, but he's also had a number of stretches where he played his role very well. How about this? Think about Staal from last season or the one before that. Comparing anyone to this Staal, the one who's probably had his worst ever NHL season is not going to get people excited at all.
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