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2016-17 Rangers Prospects Thread - Part IV (Stats in Post #1; Updated 5.30)

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CHL Playoff Schedule

Gropp (Seattle) WHL

Apr. 7 @ Everett 10:35 PM EDT
Apr. 8 @ Everett 10:05 PM EDT
Apr. 11 vs. Everett 10:05 PM EDT
Apr. 14 vs. Everett 10:35 PM EDT
Apr. 15 @ Everett 10:05 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 18 vs. Everett 10:05 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 19 @ Everett 10:05 PM EDT (if necessary)

Zborovsky (Regina) WHL

Apr. 6 vs. Swift Current 9:00 PM EDT
Apr. 7 vs. Swift Current 9:00 PM EDT
Apr. 10 @ Swift Current 9:00 PM EDT
Apr. 11 @ Swift Current 9:00 PM EDT
Apr. 14 vs. Swift Current 9:00 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 15 @ Swift Current 9:00 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 17 vs. Swift Current 9:00 PM EDT (if necessary)

Gettinger (Soo) OHL

Apr. 5 vs. Owen Sound 7:07 PM EDT
Apr. 7 vs. Owen Sound 7:07 PM EDT
Apr. 9 @ Owen Sound 6:00 PM EDT
Apr. 11 @ Owen Sound 7:00 PM EDT
Apr. 14 vs. Owen Sound 7:07 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 16 @ Owen Sound 6:00 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 18 vs. Owen Sound 7:07 PM EDT (if necessary)

Fontaine (Rouyn-Noranda) QMJHL

Apr. 7 vs. Chicoutimi 7:30 PM EDT
Apr. 8 vs. Chicoutimi 7:00 PM EDT
Apr. 11 @ Chicoutimi 7:30 PM EDT
Apr. 12 @ Chicoutimi 7:30 PM EDT
Apr. 14 @ Chicoutimi 7:30 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 17 vs. Chicoutimi 7:00 PM EDT (if necessary)
Apr. 18 vs. Chicoutimi 7:00 PM EDT (if necessary)
 
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Tips vs T-birds. I love it! Regional derby. I've been to both arenas and have a soft spot for both teams but I'm a bigger fan of the Thunderbirds. Hope Gropp has a great 2nd round
 
Revel said:
Unfortunately, it's looking like it'll be his last game of the season.
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Irishguy42 said:
Aren't they the host of the Mem Cup though? So, don't they get one more series if they lose?
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Ranger Ric said:
Windsor is hosting the Memorial Cup so it gets into the final no matter how it does in the playoffs. More action for Day latter this spring.
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Irishguy42 said:
Hope they practice their butts off while waiting for May
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Windsor hosts the Memorial Cup though. We will see Day play after elimination
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3 rounds, 6 weeks is a LONG break between games

Memorial Cup is not a 'Series'
http://mastercardmemorialcup.ca/article/2017-mastercard-memorial-cup-schedule-and-game-times

its a 4 team round-robin, *,
then a 2d vs 3d semi-final game, then the Final vs top round-robin team
*possibly a 3d-4th play-in game if needed

never been, but most go sometime - a fabulous 10 day, 8 or 9 game, hockey festival with tons of tradition and energy
 
Giving up Saarela was moronic. Hated that deal from day one.

Fontaine is a guy I see making this team in 2 years. He's clutch. Does everything well. Can take faceoffs. Needs one year of AHL experience. However. it's crucial Gernander is fired. He has no clue how to coach offense. He should have been fired after last season.
 
I am really really impressed with Fontaine and how he develops. It doesn't happen often, a 2nd year draft eligible player shows this much promise
 
I like Fontaine. The reality is however that his production overall isn't impressive and you're still almost certainly looking at a 4C, if he makes it. He looks to me like Steve Fogarty with better wheels but less strength.
 
nyr2k2 said:
I like Fontaine. The reality is however that his production overall isn't impressive and you're still almost certainly looking at a 4C, if he makes it. He looks to me like Steve Fogarty with better wheels but less strength.
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Think Fontaine is a better prospect than Fogarty, though. Also, think Fontaine's edginess makes up for the "less strength". Think he is a perfect prospect for a potential bottom 6 role.
 
Joey Bones said:
Think Fontaine is a better prospect than Fogarty, though. Also, think Fontaine's edginess makes up for the "less strength". Think he is a perfect prospect for a potential bottom 6 role.
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What specifically makes Fontaine a better prospect than Fogarty?
 
nyr2k2 said:
What specifically makes Fontaine a better prospect than Fogarty?
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I feel that even if Fontaine doesn't pan out as a suitable and smart bottom 6 shut down center, he could carve out a decent career in a 4th line grinder/13th forward position. He's got the speed and knack for the net that works in those close game situations and has shown he can come in clutch in those moments. Think that Fogarty is okay right now in a potential shut down role for the future, after all he's about to finish his first season as a pro, but I think Fontaine brings out more of a "fan-favorite" vibe to his game.

Saying Fontaine is a better prospect to Fogarty, is a bit of a premature response on my part. Time will tell with both prospects.
 
For those still following our CHL guys...Regina lost last night to Swift Current 2-1. Zboro was -1 w/ no points.

Two games tonight. Seattle and Rouyn-Noranda both play. You can always click on the link in my sig (go HERE) to get schedules, results, and stats for our players in the CHL POs.
 
FWIW the offensive component to Fogarty's game has always lagged behind the rest of his game. Saying that a 20 point season with two shootout game winners was a bit more offense than I expected from him in his first pro season especially considering the awfulness of the team he plays for. I don't think this year has hurt him at all but his potential upside does not rise above the 4th line. I would rate his chances to be at least as good as Tambellini's-- who has more offensive skill for sure but is still mired in the 30's (as far as point production) after two seasons but also doesn't seem to have any understanding how to play in his own end.
 
Fogarty was also banged up for most of the first half of the season, either not playing at all or playing hurt. His first 30 games he had 7 points, his last 30 games he had 13 points. So he started to come on. Factor in that Hartford is absolute **** and his numbers are actually respectable for a first year pro, IMO. He's got the defensive side of things figured out; along with Hrivik and Fontaine (two borderline NHL players with much more experience) he was probably the most dependable forward in his own end.

I still feel very confident that Fogarty will become a regular on an NHL fourth line. He's big, strong, a decent skater, works hard and isn't a liability offensively. I'm eager to see what he can do next season.
 
I feel like Fogarty will develop into a player like Hrivik, which wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing.
 
Mac n Gs said:
I feel like Fogarty will develop into a player like Hrivik, which wouldn't necessarily be the worst thing.
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That's a pretty good comparison but here's another--Blair Betts. And not to put him down but Betts was not a very exciting player and at his best he was an average 4th liner at the NHL level. Hopefully Fogarty can raise himself above that a bit but I think he's going to need to work more on his skating to get there. I think right now the NHL moves a little bit too fast for Hrivik's offensive creativity and capabilities. Fogarty right now IMO would have even a harder time.
 
eco's bones said:
That's a pretty good comparison but here's another--Blair Betts. And not to put him down but Betts was not a very exciting player and at his best he was an average 4th liner at the NHL level. Hopefully Fogarty can raise himself above that a bit but I think he's going to need to work more on his skating to get there. I think right now the NHL moves a little bit too fast for Hrivik's offensive creativity and capabilities. Fogarty right now IMO would have even a harder time.
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Idk why, but to me, Blair Betts was amazing and honestly one of my favorite Rangers to watch. Felt like he always hustled his ass off and was just so smart defensively. Phenomenal PKer and a shot blocking machine. Blair Betts and Freddy Sjostrom.
 
Mac n Gs said:
Idk why, but to me, Blair Betts was amazing and honestly one of my favorite Rangers to watch. Felt like he always hustled his ass off and was just so smart defensively. Phenomenal PKer and a shot blocking machine. Blair Betts and Freddy Sjostrom.
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and often very good at the dot

if Fogs can be him with better size and shot, all right
 
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