I don't get it - why should it come down to that? Is this the same, "You can only have Josh Ho-Sang on the top-two lines or not at all" kind of orthodox thinking?
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I don't get it - why should it come down to that? Is this the same, "You can only have Josh Ho-Sang on the top-two lines or not at all" kind of orthodox thinking?
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There are better players who will occupy the centre positions (I would hope). If he's there, I would expect him on the wing.
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Dermott was Erie's PP QB last season, plus he scored last night on it
Sanheim led WHL defenseman in points last season, and is pretty good QB too. I've seen him make two unbelievable passes in two games. Didn't result in goals, but were great chances.
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I think Marner is a better version of Ho-Sang, and depending on what our center ice options are, who is and isn't available, then Marner is a better and more versatile than Ho-Sang. and no, I don't think Ho-Sang provides much in a bottom of the roster, 4th line role. much like Mackinnon was a waste in Ufa a few years back...but that could have been due to his age at the time. Let's see how Ho-Sang starts the year and where his game is at in early December.
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Safe to say Strome will never be an impact player at the international level. Atrocious skater.
Ho Sang if they can manage him properly can be a very valuable tool, you saw both positives and negatives of his game last night, he's too much of a game breaker to leave off imho.
Ho Sang if they can manage him properly can be a very valuable tool, you saw both positives and negatives of his game last night, he's too much of a game breaker to leave off imho.
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Ehhh I'm not big on him or the narrative that surrounded him. The narrative was that Hockey Canada was ignoring this superstar forward just because of perceived attitude problems. The reality is that he was an offence only forward who didn't produce offence at an elite level. He complained about not getting consideration when he didn't deserve consideration.
He looked pretty good yesterday, and if he plays well for the next few months then he certainly deserves consideration for this team. I wouldn't mind having a guy like him in a fourth line spot. I could see him successfully fulfilling an offensive fourth line role like Ennis did in 2009.
It's not about production, it's about him being the most skilled player Canada has available to them. Yes he is more skilled than Marner or Point or Konecny, by a significant margin. Inconsistent? Yes. Lazy and high-risk too often? Yes. But he has more talent than just about anybody.
I don't think he is more skilled. He is just flashier. Sometimes driving the net works better than head and shoulder fakes. Plays a little selfish. No doubt that he has a ton of skill though. It's all in how you use it.
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You're just wrong about that. He wasn't invited to last summer's camp despite producing at the same or higher level than other invited 18 y/o's. The rift wasn't over making the team (he wouldn't have anyway), it was being invited to the summer camps.
Given all that they've said publicly, I don't have any doubt that the rift between Ho-Sang and Rychel and Boughner had everything to do with it. Insofar as there's a narrative about Ho-Sang's big mouth, there's a parallel narrative about classless neanderthals like Boughner and Rychel. I can see why that makes people uncomfortable.
I don't know that.. I'm not saying that at all actually. I'm just saying Arizona, declined offers for their 3rd overall pick in which they ended up taking Strome with. Therefore Arizona felt, Strome>offers from other teams. Don't know why that's so hard to grasp
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There are a lot of posters on HF stuck in the group-think and when Ho-Sang is mentioned, they reply 'selfish'. It's a little embarrassing. Please provide your own opinion as to why you think he plays selfishly.
And last I checked, being a little selfish can be a good thing. Watch OV, Subban, Kane and Stamkos just to see a few. They're all had their moments of over-handling a puck or shooting too much when there was a good pass option. I'm not saying Ho-Sang will ever be at their level, but good skilled players SHOULD be a little (keyword little) on the selfish side.
And last I checked, being a little selfish can be a good thing. Watch OV, Subban, Kane and Stamkos just to see a few. They're all had their moments of over-handling a puck or shooting too much when there was a good pass option. I'm not saying Ho-Sang will ever be at their level, but good skilled players SHOULD be a little (keyword little) on the selfish side.
Skating fast and unnecessarily stick handling really fast doesn't make you the most skilled player on the team. He showed signs of playing good team hockey yesterday while also being good offensively but in no way is he the most skilled player on this team. Whenever Marner had the puck on his stick he was a legitimate threat, there were a handful of times last night where hosang tried to skate right through 3 or 4 guys and he was unsuccessful. And point? The guy had 5 points in his last game, he was absolutely dominant offensively.
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All I'll say to that is, other than preparing National teams for International competition, Hockey Canada is in the development business. I don't argue much over any player getting 'snubbed' from a Team Canada, be it Giroux or Ho-Sang, I'll agree or disagree and then move on...but I do have an issue when Hockey Canada excludes 'elite' talent from their development camps. That was my issue as it related to HC and Ho-Sang.
and re: Ennis.. it's all relative... is Ho-Sang's game developed enough where he can be an effective player playing a limited role. That's not an easy role to play. I need to see more before I answer that question.
Actually from what I saw last night, I saw a guy that was using his team mates really well at times, not over handling the puck too much. There were times he tried doing it all himself but I was more impressed with him using his linemates well.
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Well your an educated individual who forms their own opinions and (presumably) would change their opinions when new evidence is presented.
I think a lot of his reputation comes when he was heads and shoulders the best player on the ice when he was younger and went coast to coast all the time because he could.
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Good one.
He's not more skilled than Marner at all, let alone "by a significant margin."
Roster for tonight's game
Goalies
Blackwood
Motembault
For forwards:
Marner
Point
Dal colle
Fabbri
Gauthier
Strome
Barzal
Merkley
Quennville
Watson
Aube-kubel
Beauvillier
Stephens
Defense:
Hicketts
Dunn
Leblanc
Chabot
Roy
Carrier
So Strome has played in 3 of the 4 games so far, probably want to get a better look at him to see if he can be effective unlike his previous games. Watsons and Roy's 3rd games. Watson most likely getting a longer look as he's impressed so far, where as Roy is probably in a similar situation as Strome.
Goalies
Blackwood
Motembault
For forwards:
Marner
Point
Dal colle
Fabbri
Gauthier
Strome
Barzal
Merkley
Quennville
Watson
Aube-kubel
Beauvillier
Stephens
Defense:
Hicketts
Dunn
Leblanc
Chabot
Roy
Carrier
So Strome has played in 3 of the 4 games so far, probably want to get a better look at him to see if he can be effective unlike his previous games. Watsons and Roy's 3rd games. Watson most likely getting a longer look as he's impressed so far, where as Roy is probably in a similar situation as Strome.
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So who's in net? From everything I've heard McDonald has the inside track to be starter. You would think they would give him the start if they feel he's their guy.
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