If Stral get 4.5, and Staal is resigned for 5.5, with G's 5.5 the team will have 15.5M tied up on players that combined for under 50pts last season. That is called being in a cap crunch, if the players get NMCs then the team is stuck.
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If Stral get 4.5, and Staal is resigned for 5.5, with G's 5.5 the team will have 15.5M tied up on players that combined for under 50pts last season. That is called being in a cap crunch, if the players get NMCs then the team is stuck.
Moving Staal is a bit more detrimental than losing Stralman, to the defense, only because Klein-Staal is better than Stralman-??Moore? (keeping RDs and LDs in their respective positions). They may still need a left defenseman if Staal is moved. Again, it's not a position to be taken lightly; Staal did face top talent much of the season, especially Crosby, and his play against Crosby was helpful in getting past PIT, which is something we hope happens again this season.
eco's bones
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If Brady Skjei's development was a year or two further down the road than where it is now then dependent on continuance of his good progression I could see moving Staal because eventually Skjei if everything goes according to plan is going to make Staal redundant in the next say 3-4 years. Right now moving Staal while watching Stralman almost probably walk away as a UFA is tantamount to ****ing about with a building's foundation and even if it were to bring in a 1st line quality--not HOF quality center it's not going to improve our chances at all IMO. Staal moves and John Moore most likely takes his spot. I like John Moore but he has a hell of a lot more to learn about defending to get to the level that Staal is now even after his injuries.
Rangers have only so much cap space they can throw at problems--they don't have enough to make a really big splash unless they're willing to take chances just with kids in depth positions. Apart from Miller and maybe one or two of Fast, Lindberg and Allen--I don't see much that's ready.
Rangers have only so much cap space they can throw at problems--they don't have enough to make a really big splash unless they're willing to take chances just with kids in depth positions. Apart from Miller and maybe one or two of Fast, Lindberg and Allen--I don't see much that's ready.
OverTheCap
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I'd rather stick with what works. We know that defense is the foundation of this team, along with Lundqvist. Offense, not so much. The quick fix, big name, over the top acquisitions in the Sather era has yet to translate into offensive success. We've had all kinds of turnover at the forward position the past few years yet there is still inconsistency, PP troubles, lack of finish, etc.
I think our offense needs improvement, but I'm not willing to do so at the expense of the defense. If our defense takes a big hit, and the offense still remains streaky and inconsistent despite the efforts to make it better, then we could be in a worse position than we have been in recent years.
If we find a way to upgrade on offense while maintaining our defense, great. But it's going to be a tough task to accomplish with our cap situation.
I think our offense needs improvement, but I'm not willing to do so at the expense of the defense. If our defense takes a big hit, and the offense still remains streaky and inconsistent despite the efforts to make it better, then we could be in a worse position than we have been in recent years.
If we find a way to upgrade on offense while maintaining our defense, great. But it's going to be a tough task to accomplish with our cap situation.
Well said.
Im less inclined to worry about money being tied up in very good defensemen when the plan to throw money at forwards has been an abysmal failure over the years.
You mean as bad as your same attempt to spell strahlman's name 3 posts earlier genius. As for strahlman whose name is misspelled by almost every poster on this page alone which evidently matters to you unless your misspelling it, he was so bad during the season people were looking to release him. He was better in the playoffs but like I said not an offensive presence, no help on the pp, gets beaten too easily on defense and outside of a couple of playoff hits is about as physical as wet toilet paper. I must have not been watching when strahlman became a norris trophy candidate and irreplaceable. Klein is a solid defenseman who will not kill us and getting big mac up here will be good in the long run for this team. Need to spend that money on offense.
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
Machinehead
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We need to keep the people we need long-term. That includes Stralman. If it means less offense, then so be it. I don't see our window as slamming shut anytime soon. We'll have time to improve when the salary cap isn't throwing a tantrum. Meanwhile, it's throwing one now, and I would just like to not suck next year. Letting our D walk to overpay marginal forwards will make us suck.
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Which people were those? You and your friends? Because it certainly wasn't people on this board.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Da **** is Strahlman?
And who wanted to release him?
I am burning up a lot of braincells trying to understand this cluster**** of a post.
HF wrote what they think Kristo needs to be effective in the NHL.
"Offensive freedom"... He's not a good 2 way player.
Watching him this year, he could have likely added another 10 goals and 10 assists to his totals (25g, 18ast) if he had kept the same mentality he had throughout college. He also would have added to the GA total the team suffered throughout the year with untimely and irresponsible passing.
His totals are deflated as a result of actively trying to mold his game into a two-way player. He has the instints... the IQ is lacking, a little bit.
Trade him for something of substance. We have enough wingers.
"Offensive freedom"... He's not a good 2 way player.
Watching him this year, he could have likely added another 10 goals and 10 assists to his totals (25g, 18ast) if he had kept the same mentality he had throughout college. He also would have added to the GA total the team suffered throughout the year with untimely and irresponsible passing.
His totals are deflated as a result of actively trying to mold his game into a two-way player. He has the instints... the IQ is lacking, a little bit.
Trade him for something of substance. We have enough wingers.
Off Sides
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They need to pick a direction.
Either sign their own free agents even if it means overpaying a bit
Or
Replace them with other free agents where they overpay even more.
Is there really any other option besides sitting on their hands hoping some player wants to come to them and will take less than they can get elsewhere to come to them?
Either sign their own free agents even if it means overpaying a bit
Or
Replace them with other free agents where they overpay even more.
Is there really any other option besides sitting on their hands hoping some player wants to come to them and will take less than they can get elsewhere to come to them?
TheTakedown
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If Kristo-Brassard-Zuccarello wind up being a line, you sure as hell can't **** with the defense.
Anyway, Im not confident any of the prospects are ready to make a meaningful impact the start the season and my opinions will follow that thinking until proven otherwise.
Not at all, imo.
Stastny is 28.
ROR is 23.
And IMO ROR is already a better overall center.
ROR is worth the assets + cap-space. It's a fluke that he's available. He's the real deal IMO.
Machinehead
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Danny Kristo is 24 and hasn't even sniffed NHL ice. If he's a serious option, this team is worse off than I thought.
I talked about that possibility last night. That could be a very dangerous line in the regular season. Kristo could add 40-45 points in his rookie year with those two.
But once the playoffs come that line would be very hard pressed to find chances. They're small. They won't have anyone to crash the net, and they'll be easily contained to the outside against tougher teams.
Kreider, Hagelin, Poo, Boyle.. each line had at least one guy to crash the net. We were thought of as soft with just 1 per line. Most teams can throw 1-2 guys per line at the net. LA throws 2, generally.
If only Nash was always physical and didn't mind sacrificing his body in front of the crease. That certainly would have helped.
NYR Viper
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I think I'd throw Kristo on another line, although I think he could be effective
pld459666
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Yes, there is.
Allow the guys to walk that are cashing in from imporved numbers while benefiting from the environment they were in and allowing those spots to be filled from within.
The key here is not to be scared ****-less that a young player may go through some growing pains early in the 2014-15 campaign.
Let Boyle, Poo and Stralman walk.
Let Fast, Miller, Lingberg and Allen play
allow for growing pains as the season churns along.
If the guys that are still here are as good as some posters believe them to be, then we should be fine at the end of the season.
we talk about how good they are/could become. Let's put our money where our mouths are. Let the kids play and grow as an organization.
NYR Viper
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Why? It takes players different amounts of time to develop. Hagelin graduated from college in 4 years. Played half a season in the AHL and then made the NHL. If Kristo makes the NHL next season, that's only 1/2-1 full season later. Not a big deal.
Typical HF fan logic.
Don't watch someone play - offer something negative to sound informed.
pld459666
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This was his first Pro season.
not really concerned about not sniffing NHL ice this past year
I guess nobody liked my Leddy idea on page 2?
Staal+ for ROR
Brassard + Skjei for Leddy and Morin
Zuccarello O'Reilly Nash
Kreider Stepan St. Louis
Hagelin Miller Morin/Kristo
Carcillo Moore Carter
McDonagh Girardi
Leddy Stralman
Moore Klein
Lundqvist
Talbot
I see that as a much better lineup than most of these that are inferior to last year's model.
Make use of your assets. Sell high.
Chicago needs a 2C. Brassard would fit perfectly there.
Leddy is what we hope Skjei one day becomes.
Staal has played his best hockey. Move him before we lose him for nothing because he won't be worth re-signing at what his market value will be.
Staal+ for ROR
Brassard + Skjei for Leddy and Morin
Zuccarello O'Reilly Nash
Kreider Stepan St. Louis
Hagelin Miller Morin/Kristo
Carcillo Moore Carter
McDonagh Girardi
Leddy Stralman
Moore Klein
Lundqvist
Talbot
I see that as a much better lineup than most of these that are inferior to last year's model.
Make use of your assets. Sell high.
Chicago needs a 2C. Brassard would fit perfectly there.
Leddy is what we hope Skjei one day becomes.
Staal has played his best hockey. Move him before we lose him for nothing because he won't be worth re-signing at what his market value will be.
As a 3rd line winger?
That's how every team brings in these NCAA kids.
What are you talking about?
He played 1 whole season in the AHL.
Not only did you trade Staal, but you traded Skjei... his eventual replacement.
Back to the drawing board for you, -77-.
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