Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread IV

[TheTakedown]

If Morin can be had, I'd push hard. Acquiring Morin and keeping Stralman would be big for this team.

We'd still need to go about finding a 2 or 3 C and a 4th LW, but we'd (ideally) have nice, young LW depth in Kreider, Hags, and Morin. I'd love that move. Even the RW would be pretty stacked going into this year. The main thing would be finding (or promoting) a capable C.


Even if Stralman walks, we'd have a spot to bring in some kind of PMD.

I think Grabovski is the only centerman we're going to be able to afford at this rate

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

No, and btw,
we've always thought he was a leafs fan growing up, if push comes to shove, even with NMC, if we say, hey, we love ya, but were screwed, and we can't afford everybody, we gotta trade ya, real honest like, I think if it's to a team that works for him, he does it.

Tor is not the immediate win now of others, but it is the boyhood attachment.
Also, if they move Phaneuf for offense to say Edmonton, Girardi would actually be a cheaper, more defensively sound option, good for mentoring young d.

Girardi + rights to Stralman
for
Kadri + Gardiner ?
Remember Leafs would unload Phaneuf for offense.

Gardiner
Klein
McIlrath/Diaz and we added Kadri

Congratulations. As usual, you have just decimated the defense.

 

[Blue Blooded]

RE: Trading Girardi. I'd love to, but I don't see it happening as he just signed his contract that has a full NMC for the first few years.

If we could sign Strålman + Gilbert/Fayne I'd trade Girardi for a 7th if that's what it took. It's bad asset management for sure, but I genuinely think we would become a better team and that is what matters at the end of the day.

 

[JohnC]

I'd trade Girardi for a 7th if that's what it took.

You'd have my vote for Bob Gainey memorial award

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I'm sceptical of anyone coming out of the Devils and their weird system. No one suppresses shots like the Devils, but their percentages are always in the toilet. Something is amiss there.

I think Fayne is likely to be really good, but he has an asterisk in my book - would prefer Gilbert even at a higher price.

I haven't seen much of Gilbert in awhile myself, while having seen plenty of Fayne (I watch too many Devils games), and personally, I lean towards Fayne. I think he has more untapped potential than Gilbert, while Gilbert kind of is what he is. Fayne reminds me a lot of Stralman, really. Not carbon copies, but similar style.

Either one would make me happy, though.

 

[Vitto79]

if Poo gets 3 yrs elsewhere good for him. Sign a C then like Roy for cheap , Miller to the wing

Kreider ,Stepan, MSL
Nash, Brassard, Zuccarello
Hagelin, Roy/UFA, Miller
Fast, Moore, Dorsett

their are options if UFAs bolt for too much. I fully expect Boyle too

 

[NewLife]

Kane is in theory the player I want left of Brassard and Zuccarello. But even if AV wants his team to fly on the ice, how wing heavy can you be?

 

[Vidic15*]

WOAT post ever. That is probably the best source out their as far as French Canadian players go. Last I checked Pouliot wasn't an Anglo name.

I'm not saying he isn't a good source, but to think he can't possibly have any bias is dumb.

 

[NYR Viper]

I am thinking that both Malhotra and Raymiond would be solid additions. Both know AV's system. Veterans with solid speed and both PK.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I'm not saying he isn't a good source, but to think he can't possibly have any bias is dumb.

To even have the thought that he's "biased" against us in anyway because of that tweet is dumb. He's a reporter reporting something. It's kind of what they do.

 

[Fugazy]

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/26/chevy-from-our-standpoint-evander-is-a-winnipeg-jet/


Non-denial denial. Classic GM speak.

Kane would love NY.

Yeah I would love to have him here. I think he would definitely do well here.

 

[bernmeister]

To get away from the defensive situation for a moment, the 1st round of the draft is tomorrow night. Anyone think we'll make a pick?

Would the caps really, as suggested in a recent thread, tread their first for "a top 4".

Do we want to flip Moore and say a 4th for that pick?
Other options, given Girardi NMC and DC =\= Toronto, and Stralman is FA with stability issues, sign + trade would not work?

 

[Vidic15*]

To even have the thought that he's "biased" against us in anyway because of that tweet is dumb. He's a reporter reporting something. It's kind of what they do.

Two doom and gloom tweets in a week. Why is he so concerned about us?

 

[Ola]

When you go through the UFA dmen list, those two seem like the only two guys that would come cheaper and be suitable replacements for Stralman.

It's just brutal that someone like Nikitin gets paid 4.5 million a year.

Yeah, I put Pouliot in the 3m range a month ago and was ridiculed, we will see how that plays out,

I've been saying the same thing the last 2-3 years, lock up your god damn players. The UFA market will be crazy.

The longer contract the better. It's sick that we are trying to get younger players sign as short contracts as possible.

We have nobody to trade and we will loose young contributing players because we have refused to lock up players for a long time now. Plain dumb.

 

[Zuccarello Awesome*]

I haven't seen much of Gilbert in awhile myself, while having seen plenty of Fayne (I watch too many Devils games), and personally, I lean towards Fayne. I think he has more untapped potential than Gilbert, while Gilbert kind of is what he is. Fayne reminds me a lot of Stralman, really. Not carbon copies, but similar style.

Either one would make me happy, though.

Agreed. Fayne is a bit underrated IMO. On a defense like ours and in front of Lundqvist, I could see Fayne playing just as well (and potentially even better) in Stralman's spot as Stralman has.

I watch too many Devils games also, and I'd really like for us to look into Fayne, as well as Ryan Carter (UFA) for the fourth line. He made 775k last season if I remember correctly. Big body, good skater, very good in the corners and defensively sound.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Two doom and gloom tweets in a week. Why is he so concerned about us?

I think you need to drop the defensiveness, dude. The guy reports what he hears on any team.

 

[NYR Viper]

I wonder if Franson is still available

 

[Zuccarello Awesome*]

Yeah, I put Pouliot in the 3m range a month ago and was ridiculed, we will see how that plays out,

I've been saying the same thing the last 2-3 years, lock up your god damn players. The UFA market will be crazy.

The longer contract the better. It's sick that we are trying to get younger players sign as short contracts as possible.

We have nobody to trade and we will loose young contributing players because we have refused to lock up players for a long time now. Plain dumb.

Yeah, instead we lock up a guy like Girardi with a NMC. Great. I think we'll be okay though. Sather seems to get all the blame and none of the credit (opposite of Gorton). I have faith in Sather to make it work.

 

[bernmeister]

yoo every ranger fan knows how valuable richards was in the locker room this post season...would you deal JT Miller for Richards and a prospect, which ever team he goes too? Sather did say we are a cup contending team, richards at a reasonable amount would be great for our squad

Absolutely no.
Richards skating is an issue, and even benefit of the doubt, costs too much.

Miller is the fastest C we have atm. he is the natural complement for Kreider and MSL. don't fight that.

BTW, is there a reason you confess to being the "evil twin"?

 

[Zuccarello Awesome*]

if Poo gets 3 yrs elsewhere good for him. Sign a C then like Roy for cheap , Miller to the wing

Kreider ,Stepan, MSL
Nash, Brassard, Zuccarello
Hagelin, Roy/UFA, Miller
Fast, Moore, Dorsett

their are options if UFAs bolt for too much. I fully expect Boyle too

Miller is a center.

He puts up great numbers in the AHL AS A CENTER.

He gets called up, plays wing, and doesn't do dick.

He's a center. Play him there or leave him in the AHL. He's not a winger.

 

[Zuccarello Awesome*]

I love John Moore and I don't want to trade him (especially since he's much more valuable than his cap-hit will be), but perhaps all the times Sam called Moore's name when it was McDonagh on the ice making a great play has increased his value. (kidding)

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Miller is a center.

He puts up great numbers in the AHL AS A CENTER.

He gets called up, plays wing, and doesn't do dick.

He's a center. Play him there or leave him in the AHL. He's not a winger.

Well, if you want to get technical, he hasnt done dick at center either in the NHL.

In fact, hes been worse because hes often lost defensively.

 

[Zuccarello Awesome*]

Well, if you want to get technical, he hasnt done dick at center either in the NHL.

In fact, hes been worse because hes often lost defensively.

He's hardly played center in the NHL. I think he did for a couple games, including his two-goal game against the Islanders. I don't remember him playing C at all with the Rangers since Tortorella was here.

My problem isn't with AV for playing him at wing, because like you said, AV probably didn't trust him defensively to play in the middle of the ice. That, I understand. My issue is with fans penciling him into the lineup at wing, and expecting him to produce there.

 

[NewLife]

Absolutely no.
Richards skating is an issue, and even benefit of the doubt, costs too much.

Miller is the fastest C we have atm. he is the natural complement for Kreider and MSL. don't fight that.

BTW, is there a reason you confess to being the "evil twin"?

Lol maybe it's Joel, trying to make a case for slow as **** skating centre men

 

[Zuccarello Awesome*]

Maybe we let Stralman walk, and since Brian Boyle wants a bigger role, he can play defense for us. Just make sure he watches a lot of video of Chara and has John Moore teach him how to skate.