Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread IV
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Raspewtin
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Doesn't answer my question.
Why are we trading him for picks after making the SCF?
If we can't afford him, I bet he goes in a hockey trade, for another player to fill a weakness.
With Stralman supposedly leaving, there's no way we let him go anyway unless he wants to leave.
Lol.. you verbatim asked "why the hell would we trade Staal after making the SCF"
I gave you 4 legitimate reasons and yet it somehow still didn't answer your question.
In another attempt to "answer your question," we had to give up 2 first round picks to acquire MSL who helped us "make the SCF"
To recoup those picks, we can trade Staal. The purpose of trading him would be 2-fold; to save cap space (by NOT acquiring any other roster players) and re-stocking our picks. It's a move that helps us now, by giving us cap flexibility to sign a real first line center, and later by getting us some high picks back. In addition to this, it will avoid a Callahan-esque debacle in which Sather has to rush together a deadline deal if he can't extend Staal, which is a major possibility.
This is of course all contingent on Stralman resigning. If he doesn't re-sign, Staal goes nowhere
LyNX27
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LyNX27
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Correct, we couldn't. Re signing Stralman should be Glen's #1 priority right now. We can't lose him for nothing. Trades can be made to get us under the cap. This team doesn't have enough assets to be letting guys walk for nothing
17futurecap
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Just looking through the UFA dmen, what a rough list. It is going to stink if/when the Rangers lose Stralman.
Mark Fayne and Tom Gilbert would be the two guys that stick out that could fit if Stralman leaves, I'm just not sure how much cheaper they are really going to be compared to Stralman.
Mark Fayne and Tom Gilbert would be the two guys that stick out that could fit if Stralman leaves, I'm just not sure how much cheaper they are really going to be compared to Stralman.
BlueshirtBlitz
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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pld459666
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I'm not so sure about that.
There are some very talented players up front down there and being able to play with the likes of Huberdeau and or Barkov could be VERY enticing.
Plus he's out from under the microscope that is the NY media honing in on each and every missed opportunity.
I see that as a pretty good fit for him.
silverfish
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Bad management is trading Klein. If they want to get Stralman that money, find it somewhere else in the lineup. Klein on a great contract for a guy who can play top-4 D minutes.
Paulie Walnutz
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You can't give Staal 6 million a year. He provides 0 offense. $500,000 per point? You can't tie up a large chunk of cap space on all of the defensemen who provide 0 offense. Stralman or Staal, pick one. And if it's Stralman where does that leave McIlrath? Girardi, Stralman, Klein locked up long term.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
We didn't get him dirt cheap, we gave up Horak and two 2nds for Erixon and a 5th.
That's not dirt cheap.
If Yakupov is available, while his value is low, you'd have to think there is a team that can beat a 2nd and Kristo
UAGoalieGuy
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Erixon wasn't a 1st overall selection a couple of years ago nor did he have the potential. Erixon was also refusing to sign and I believe he was going to re-enter the draft.
We aren't getting a sniff at him for Kristo and a 2nd.
We aren't getting a sniff at him for Kristo and a 2nd.
Ail
Based and Rangerspilled.
Paying Staal 1st pair money and letting Stralman walk is the worst possible scenario regarding the defense and FA situations in general. This off-season is not looking promising right now.
Boyle: Probably gone. Not a back breaker, but he will be missed.
Stralman: Not looking good. Could change the face of the defense depending on how they replace him. Staal will be overpaid.
Replacing Richards: Lots of rumors, most of them undesirable. Overall a pretty tough spot for the Rangers.
PPQB: Dan Boyle is asking too much. Not many other options floating around out there right now.
Richards was bought out though, and they got a 2nd back from Callahan, on the plus side.
Still lots of time left but so far things are not shaping up optimally or how I would have liked it to go personally. I'm hoping we get some more positive information today regarding FAs.
Boyle: Probably gone. Not a back breaker, but he will be missed.
Stralman: Not looking good. Could change the face of the defense depending on how they replace him. Staal will be overpaid.
Replacing Richards: Lots of rumors, most of them undesirable. Overall a pretty tough spot for the Rangers.
PPQB: Dan Boyle is asking too much. Not many other options floating around out there right now.
Richards was bought out though, and they got a 2nd back from Callahan, on the plus side.
Still lots of time left but so far things are not shaping up optimally or how I would have liked it to go personally. I'm hoping we get some more positive information today regarding FAs.
Paulie Walnutz
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jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
I think Boyle is tough to replace - tougher than most want to admit. But he's definitely replaceable. As a fan, it's going to be tough. He's a heart and soul player and one of my favorites.
As for the rest, we retain the rights to all our core players. I'm sure they'll figure something out. It would be nice if one guy would sign before July 1 for God's sake.
RangerBoy
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What is Stralman looking for? The Rangers shouldn't give anyone a blank check. $4M. 4-5 years. Anything more and he can get it from another team. Stralman will be overpaid. Looking at the free agent market for defensemen,Stralman will probably get more than the Rangers want to pay. Niskanen is getting 7 years as a free agent. This is why the Rangers acquired Kevin Klein. The Rangers had two right-handed shooting D as pending group III's. The Rangers signed Girardi. They are trying to sign Stralman. Klein will replace Stralman if they can't re-sign him. Some people will say the Rangers made a mistake in signing Girardi instead of Stralman. Where were those people last February? AV did say Klein can play top 4 minutes because he was a top 4 D in Nashville.
Ail
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Can play top4 minutes and is fit to play top4 minutes are pretty different. Klein looked solid on the 3rd pair for most of the playoffs. He was a good fit there. I'm not sold on him being able to handle consistent top4 minutes.
No, they should not hand Stralman a blank check, but I wouldn't mind if they gave him a similar deal to Gaborik. They won't overpay Stralman but they are going to be forced to overpay Staal for the same reason they would have had to overpay Callahan. It's not that they don't deserve their payout, it's that they have fallen down the depth chart and the Rangers can't afford to pay them for the role they used to play or would be on another team.
Ail
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Morin was mentioned earlier. I wouldn't mind grabbing him if it was cheap. 'Hawks fans think a second would get it done. Unfortunately if Pouliot is coming back (perfectly okay with that) I don't think they have room for him on the left.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
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