2014 CBJ Offseason Thread II (All proposals, "blog" rumors, speculation in here)

[CBJSlash]

I doubt Spezza is interested in checking, getting the puck behind the defense or being tough to play against.

 

[Tulipunaruusu*]

My idea (because I don't know the meaning of the phrase "just drop it" or "give it a rest") was Umberger for Burmistrov and Kulda.

Winnipeg gains an NHL-caliber player who can slot in on their top-9. Columbus sheds the contract and picks up two players who will be in the KHL for next year. Kulda will be there through this coming season and then hit UFA status, while Burmistrov will still be an RFA.

What kind of a role and cap hit would you envision for those two in the future Columbus team? Since Burmistrov would likely have to be at least second line financially compensated to leave his hometown club in KHL who have also tax advantage over NHL.

Tero Lehterä and Leo Komarov from Finnish Olympic team have recently favoured to decline one-way NHL deals and rather wait for UFA days while enjoying big role and the salary that comes with it in KHL so that might be similar scenario for Burmistrov too.

 

[pete goegan]

Exactly. He wasted a team on his "list" by putting Columbus on it. Thanks for the favor, Spezza.

It was pointed out in one post I read that several of his listed teams were "wasted" because the Sens won't want to send him to any team in the East.

 

[Jackets16]

Like the player, not worth the cost though.

Doubt Kesler would come back either. I think he wants a SCF contender now, not an aspiring one in the next 2-5 years.

I agree. I have yet to see a player mentioned that I would want.

 

[EspenK]

I agree. I have yet to see a player mentioned that I would want.

Not directed at you specifically but the majority here don't want anyone. So far off the top of my head, the majority have passed on Spezza, Stastny, Hemsky, ROR, Vanek, Iginla, Neal & Cammeleri. I have to believe some of them, if not all, would help the team.

Unfortunately folks, Crosby,Malkin, Toews, Kane and Kopitar aren't becoming available. Of course the price for them would be too high.

 

[CBJRzeznik]

Not directed at you specifically but the majority here don't want anyone. So far off the top of my head, the majority have passed on Spezza, Stastny, Hemsky, ROR, Vanek, Iginla, Neal & Cammeleri. I have to believe some of them, if not all, would help the team.

Unfortunately folks, Crosby,Malkin, Toews, Kane and Kopitar aren't becoming available. Of course the price for them would be too high.

I would take ROR or Statsny without hesitation. Vanek, Cammy, and Iginla at the right $/term. And, despite being a dirty player at times I would also take Neal, but doubt PIT trades him within the division with asking an exorbitant price we wouldn't pay. Seems like Statsny will resign in COL, Iginla in BOS. Someone will mistakenly give Vanek big $/term and that likely isn't us. So in the end, Perhaps ROR is the best target if negotiations go south w/Avs and Cammy the best fit as a FA. But I'll also throw out Erikson from BOS, Perron or Yak from EDM, Stewart from BUF as possible trade targets. Not perfect, just possible targets. Just my 2 cents there.

 

[Fro]

Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 36s
Was just told to be on lookout today..sounds like first big trade could be coming. Source: "90% by the end of biz Friday." So, hold ur hats!

 

[Jackets16]

Not directed at you specifically but the majority here don't want anyone. So far off the top of my head, the majority have passed on Spezza, Stastny, Hemsky, ROR, Vanek, Iginla, Neal & Cammeleri. I have to believe some of them, if not all, would help the team.

Unfortunately folks, Crosby,Malkin, Toews, Kane and Kopitar aren't becoming available. Of course the price for them would be too high.

I would take ROR or Stastny. I'm talking more about the guys mentioned recently. Also, yes those guys MAY help, but my not wanting them has just about as much to do with the cost to get them as it does how much I think they would help us.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

I would consider ROR and Statsny for the right term/$. However, Avs will probably keep Stastny. ROR may be an option. Anyone willing to take a chance on Chris Stewart? JD/JK traded for Stewie once....

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I would consider ROR and Statsny for the right term/$. However, Avs will probably keep Stastny. ROR may be an option. Anyone willing to take a chance on Chris Stewart? JD/JK traded for Stewie once....

I like Stewart, I think. Is there a reason, other than he's one of those "good enough to be traded" players, he's moved around so much? I know his numbers haven't continued to improve...

 

[cslebn]

Not directed at you specifically but the majority here don't want anyone. So far off the top of my head, the majority have passed on Spezza, Stastny, Hemsky, ROR, Vanek, Iginla, Neal & Cammeleri. I have to believe some of them, if not all, would help the team.

Unfortunately folks, Crosby,Malkin, Toews, Kane and Kopitar aren't becoming available. Of course the price for them would be too high.

(Note not all this is directed at you, just replying and then going off and onward).

I think we run a double edged sword. It's not that people think poorly of the players but are more often concerned about cost.
Stastny - salary cost/term
ROR - contract/trade cost (serious have you seen the mains????)
Vanek - contract/term
Iginla - cost for age
Neal - dirty/trade cost
Moulson - playoffs were so bad he's only worth a bag of pucks

Then you add in style of play and etc and you drop other players (Hemsky, Spezza). Would it be awesome to take a serious run at Erikkson or Marchand? Yeah, but how much would they cost us? We're trying to build ourselves into a Chicago without getting many top picks. It's hard. But if you still review the deals the Chicagos, Bostons, and LAs make they generally aren't sending a glut (roster + young + 1st) out the door to acquire top line talent.

These days the best way to acquire younger talent is to draft it or see if it needs a change of scenery. Next best is to trade aging rentals to contenders but we aren't at that stage anymore.

Sure we could try to sign a UFA as a stop gap but that's all it is until we get our own higher end talent (and that's all it should be short of Vanek). Would Cammy or Hemmer help the talent immediately - yes. Would either sign a 2 year deal? Dunno. It definitely seems like that is more the path we should go, or the reclamation path with Stewart as someone else just suggested. The guy did score 28 goals twice. On the other hand he's technically a RW when we seem shorter at LW.

 

[EspenK]

I like Stewart, I think. Is there a reason, other than he's one of those "good enough to be traded" players, he's moved around so much? I know his numbers haven't continued to improve...

He would bring some toughness/grit and some potential. as always if the price is right I think we could get by with minimum jeopardy to the team.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

I like Stewart, I think. Is there a reason, other than he's one of those "good enough to be traded" players, he's moved around so much? I know his numbers haven't continued to improve...

I know he played his way out of St. Louis and will be playing for a contract this year. He is overpaid for his production but would be interesting to see if he can step it up while we see how the young ones develop next year. If he is bad, we dump him again at the deadline. Not sure about him and his speed either. Just an interesting possible "bridge" option.

 

[Kev22]

Stewart might make some sense on a line with Foligno and Anisimov. He would be the one willing to go to the dirty areas and allow Nick and Arty to be creative. Might not be too bad a second line. Might be able to acquire him for a second round pick and a prospect. Allow GMJK to keep his coveted first round pick and allow them to go to the market for more skill.

 

[Samkow]

I'm a really big Stewart fan and think he fits this club well. Not sure if Buffalo wants any more picks from this draft but if we strike out in free agency, I hope Jarmo makes a few calls.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

To further the Stewart talk, Buffalo is currently way below the cap floor. Their current cap number is 30th - the only team currently below $40 mil.

Seems unlikely they'd move a guy with Stewart's salary/cap number for stuff that doesn't cost much money.

 

[EDM]

I really hope that Jarmo is not one of the posters on this site under an assumed name.

 

[CBJFan827]

To further the Stewart talk, Buffalo is currently way below the cap floor. Their current cap number is 30th - the only team currently below $40 mil.

Seems unlikely they'd move a guy with Stewart's salary/cap number for stuff that doesn't cost much money.

Something around Umberger for Stewart then?

 

[Nordique]

Why make a move for a guy (Stewart) that has failed in a system that we are trying to mimic?

 

[Mayor Bee]

I really hope that Jarmo is not one of the posters on this site under an assumed name.

Depends on who it would be. If it's me, then everyone should be relieved that such a logical and grounded individual is in command. If it's anyone else, then I'm with you.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 36s
Was just told to be on lookout today..sounds like first big trade could be coming. Source: "90% by the end of biz Friday." So, hold ur hats!

His prior free agency blog also mentioned that the CBJ look to be in on Jussi Jokinen if Pittsburgh doesn't re-sign him before free agency starts.

 

[Cowumbus]

Trade umberger + for marleau

Jenner johansen Horton
Marleau Anisimov Foligno
Calvert Dubinsky Atkinson
Mackenzie Wennberg Letestu

Tyutin Johnson
Acquired dman Murray
Wisniewski Savard

 

[Cowumbus]

Also what about shifting Joey to the Rwing I know it's crazy but we could get a good center or shift Boone back to center and do something with that

______ _______ Johansen
Jenner Dubinsky Horton
Foligno Anisimov Atkinson
Calvert Letestu Mackenzie

 

[stevo61]

Trade umberger + for marleau

Jenner johansen Horton
Marleau Anisimov Foligno
Calvert Dubinsky Atkinson
Mackenzie Wennberg Letestu

Tyutin Johnson
Acquired dman Murray
Wisniewski Savard

That would be a pretty massive plus and im sure we'd be replacing someone else in that lineup in the process. Some people have started thinking that picking up a 30 goalscorer would be easy with minimal assets but thats not how it works

 

[EspenK]

But if you still review the deals the Chicagos, Bostons, and LAs make they generally aren't sending a glut (roster + young + 1st) out the door to acquire top line talent.

These days the best way to acquire younger talent is to draft it or see if it needs a change of scenery. Next best is to trade aging rentals to contenders but we aren't at that stage anymore.

Sure we could try to sign a UFA as a stop gap but that's all it is until we get our own higher end talent (and that's all it should be short of Vanek). Would Cammy or Hemmer help the talent immediately - yes. Would either sign a 2 year deal? Dunno. It definitely seems like that is more the path we should go, or the reclamation path with Stewart as someone else just suggested. The guy did score 28 goals twice. On the other hand he's technically a RW when we seem shorter at LW.

LA traded Wayne Simmons & Brayden Schenn for Mike Richards & JMFJ + a first for Carter. They gave to get.

LW-Jenner,Foligno,Calvert, RW - Horton & Cam. I'd say at the moment we need a RW.