2013 - Out Of Town Scoreboard - Part three - Hockey's Back!

[Bleedred]

Panthers suck this year. Getting bounced by the Laughs 3-0. Jose Theodore has made some ridiculous saves in this game for the Panthers. They're not playing for him at all. Looks like the Maclean Devils.

 

[downtown56]

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Linesman obviously was aware Duchene preceded puck over blueline but mistakenly believed NSH, not COL, played puck into zone.

 

[Bleedred]

Wow Hurricanes what a joke. They could score 3 goals on us, but not 1 on the Canadiens with ****in Peter ****in Budaj in net?

 

[CerebralGenesis]

Alright Jerome, show me some speed

 

[Uli Hiemer]

montreal pouring it on

 

[JMarce]

this cheered me up a bit after the last few Devils games.

 

[Bleedred]

this cheered me up a bit after the last few Devils games.

Good for POS Ward!

I wanna say he's overrated, but he's really not. Do people really consider him a top 10 goalie? I think he's only considered a top 10 goalie because of his durability, and being able to play 75 games a year. Not to mention posting good numbers on a team that's been crap for the most part during his tenure.

Conn Smythe, and Cup win in 2006. What the **** has he done since? And someone on here last year told me he never gives up bad goals.

 

[Devils Dominion]

this cheered me up a bit after the last few Devils games.

Ha ha, nice!

 

[NJDevs26]

Who are the current 'top ten' goalies anyway? Quick, Rinne, Lundqvist, Luongo, Smith, Marty on rep, Price? Rask? Anderson? Niemi?! Ryan Miller isn't a top ten goalie anymore. Neither is Ward except against us, but I don't know if there is a no-doubt list of the top ten.

 

[Bleedred]

Florida is a joke this year. It looks like mostly Leafs fans there tonight. Back to back shutouts for Scrivens, and the Leafs. At least the talk of Luongo to the Leafs has been put to bed. After today's miserable game I don't want Luongo near this conference.

 

[Bleedred]

Who are the current 'top ten' goalies anyway? Quick, Rinne, Lundqvist, Luongo, Smith, Marty on rep, Price? Rask? Anderson? Niemi?! Ryan Miller isn't a top ten goalie anymore. Neither is Ward except against us, but I don't know if there is a no-doubt list of the top ten.

Miller is borderline to me. I'd take Marty over him because while Marty is sometimes unreliable, Miller in the last couple years to me has had some serious head case problems. Even more so than Luongo.

Lundqvist, Quick, Rinne, Price, Luongo, Lehtonen, Kiprusoff, Marty, Rask, Anderson, Miller is debatable. In no particular order.

I'd put Marty in the top 10 simply for last years SCF run, and more than decent start to this season. If not I'd take him out of the top 10 talk. Ward isn't horrible, but I feel he's closer to 15 than 10.

Lehtonen, and Kipper have put up great numbers on teams as crappy as Carolina too.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Trust me, it really happened. The greatest offside in the history of this game.

Trotz was furious and rightfully so.

Game 6 SCF ,, Flyers got screwed by blatant offside Isle goal

 

[Bleedred]

I still want Quick in the net for the USA over Miller next year. Even though Quick hasn't had the best season so far. I think he'll pull out of it. One of the only reasons the Kings made the playoffs last year is because Quick was able to win them games 1-0, or 2-1. A lot of games like that. He also lost several shutouts in OT if I recall correctly.

Because Quick has been a little less sharp, and the Kings offense has went back to where it was the Kings have started out a little slow.

 

[Getzo5]

Game 6 SCF ,, Flyers got screwed by blatant offside Isle goal

Was it more obvious? The importance of the game doesn`t matter, I`m talking about the principle.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

Here is the video:



The worst officiating decision I`ve ever seen and that includes sending Backes to the shower after a perfectly clean hit.

Interestingly enough, both incidents happened this year.

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Linesman obviously was aware Duchene preceded puck over blueline but mistakenly believed NSH, not COL, played puck into zone.

Yeah after seeing the FULL replay, it did look like NSH played the puck into their own zone, making the offsides not apply. I still haven't seen a view that showed me they didn't which would totally change my opinion of the play. I thought it was a clean stick to stick pass.

This isn't what it initially appeared to be. Does anyone have a definitive replay that shows they DID NOT touch it?

 

[Capt Nico Poo]

I feel bad for the Preds. They scored 5 times and lost. So unorthodox in many ways for the preds.

 

[apice3*]

Yeah after seeing the FULL replay, it did look like NSH played the puck into their own zone, making the offsides not apply. I still haven't seen a view that showed me they didn't which would totally change my opinion of the play. I thought it was a clean stick to stick pass.

This isn't what it initially appeared to be. Does anyone have a definitive replay that shows they DID NOT touch it?

I thought whether they touch it or not is irrelevant. It has to be a deliberate pass, as in not a deflection of some kind.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

Yeah after seeing the FULL replay, it did look like NSH played the puck into their own zone, making the offsides not apply. I still haven't seen a view that showed me they didn't which would totally change my opinion of the play. I thought it was a clean stick to stick pass.

This isn't what it initially appeared to be. Does anyone have a definitive replay that shows they DID NOT touch it?

:43 of that video shows the chip-out. That Pred tries to swing it back towards Colorado's end and it just floats right by him, on its original path. Bounces real close to the skate, but pretty clearly doesn't touch it there, I think.

 

[Bleedred]

How the hell do the Canes get shutout by Peter ****in Budaj?

 

[Getzo5]

this cheered me up a bit after the last few Devils games.

The spirit of Vesa Toskala was in the building!

I thought whether they touch it or not is irrelevant. It has to be a deliberate pass, as in not a deflection of some kind.

Same here.

Just a brutal call, no need to defend it, really. It`s a lame excuse either way.

How the hell do the Canes get shutout by Peter ****in Budaj?

My avatar feels offended.

 

[Capt Nico Poo]

How the hell do the Canes get shutout by Peter ****in Budaj?

This coming from a fan whose team managed to score only once in 65 minutes and 3 penalty shots versus Bishop..

 

[Richer's Ghost]

I thought whether they touch it or not is irrelevant. It has to be a deliberate pass, as in not a deflection of some kind.

The rule is written surprisingly vague regarding touching of a defender while attacker is offsides. It clearly speakes to the attempt to play the puck out of the attacking zone and deflecting off both a defender or an attacker which would result in an onside or delayed offside play but doesn't say anything specific to attempted offside passes being touched or deflected by a defender in the neutral zone.

Here is the closest thing they have written which you can argue does not qualify by just touching it but rather must possess it.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26497

If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permitted to continue.

I thought if the defending team in any way contacted the puck last on it's way into the attack zone, the play was automatically onside. That's not how the rule reads. It basically reads with the intent either to clear the zone or play the puck back into their defending zone, the other team is onside even if previously offsides.

Get ready for another rule change after this debacle.

*edit

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-p...uchene-blown-offside-goal-234431460--nhl.html

I see Puck Daddy has up a story about it. In that video you can see the NSH players DO deflect the puck down and to the right (DOWN, and to the RIGHT) of it's original path so maybe the lineman mistakenly thought like I did that any touching negates the offsides? I would think since that IS his primary purpose on the ice though to call that one aspect of the game they would know it inside and out.

 

[glenwo2]

The rule is written surprisingly vague regarding touching of a defender while attacker is offsides. It clearly speakes to the attempt to play the puck out of the attacking zone and deflecting off both a defender or an attacker which would result in an onside or delayed offside play but doesn't say anything specific to attempted offside passes being touched or deflected by a defender in the neutral zone.

Here is the closest thing they have written which you can argue does not qualify by just touching it but rather must possess it.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26497



I thought if the defending team in any way contacted the puck last on it's way into the attack zone, the play was automatically onside. That's not how the rule reads. It basically reads with the intent either to clear the zone or play the puck back into their defending zone, the other team is onside even if previously offsides.

Get ready for another rule change after this debacle.

The Duchene Rule.

 

[Getzo5]

Well, he thought wrong. I mean, we all agreed that it shouldn`t be an onside play especially if they only deflected it. I can`t, however, fathom why he thought it was a deliberate pass backwards. I just don`t. The whole situation is hilarious though.

Also, I`m pretty sure that either IIHF or certain domestic leagues in Europe do have the right rule in place already. I might be mistaken though.

EDIT: http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/02/19/breaking-down-matt-duchenes-goal-that-wasnt-in-any-way-illegal-nope-nothing-to-see-here/

Nice breakdown by JT. Loved the comments. bahaha

 

[Emperoreddy]

OH watching Wardo made to look like a chump last night cheered me up something fierce. Was a wonderful thing.