Speculation: 2013 Off-Season Speculation/Be a GM Thread II

[Riverdale]

Good riddance Richards. The guy who pushed for his signing is no longer part of the organization.

If Richards is one of the players who had expressed their disapproval of Torts, do you think he is given another year in the hopes that he rebounds?

Better to just buy him out and move on IMO.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Been asking for Ryder for years. He can put the puck in the net and only makes 3M

agreed but NYR needs more size with skill on the wings.. someone who plays with some snarl that has skill to play in the top 6....

 

[Trxjw]

Another RWer. VERY soft.

Pass.

He can play both sides and would be a great shooting option on the PP. However, he's 33 and is going to want a retirement deal. 4-5 years at $4.5M+ quite easily.

 

[Fitzy]

I don't care if we sign older guys, but it needs to be a short-term deal.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I wouldn't mind flippula on a 4 year deal or so but again will be overpaid

 

[Orr Nightmare]

The Rangers can not trade for or sign anyone under 6'2 210-220 pounds and plays a very nasty game.

I watched every minute of the 2nd round and like always...the Rangers got manhandled and yet...every year we get smaller and softer and every year everyone comes on these boards and ask for Alexander Burmistrov's of the league...kid is 6'1 180...the exact opposite of what we need.

Lucic ***** slapped Nash and we didn't have anyone who could come to his aide the way that Thornton came to his teammates aide...I just don't get why you guys can't see that.

 

[RangerBoy]

If Richards is one of the players who had expressed their disapproval of Torts, do you think he is given another year in the hopes that he rebounds?

Better to just buy him out and move on IMO.

NO. Get rid of him. Richards wouldn't even be here if Torts wasn't in NY. Calgary offered Richards more money. Newport Sports advised Richards to take another offer(Calgary?) than the Rangers offer. Richards wanted to play for Torts.

 

[NYR Viper]

The Rangers can not trade for or sign anyone under 6'2 210-220 pounds and plays a very nasty game.

I watched every minute of the 2nd round and like always...the Rangers got manhandled and yet...every year we get smaller and softer and every year everyone comes on these boards and ask for Alexander Burmistrov's of the league...kid is 6'1 180...the exact opposite of what we need.

Lucic ***** slapped Nash and we didn't have anyone who could come to his aide the way that Thornton came to his teammates aide...I just don't get why you guys can't see that.

I see it, unfortunately, the 6'4 220+ lbs offensively gifted centers are hard to come by. Hence, why I would rather have skilled puck distributors at center and build up on the wings.

Kreider-Brassard-Nash
Clowe-Stepan-Callahan
Hagelin-Burmistrov-Dorsett
Nystrom-Lindberg/Miller-Boyle

Build up size on the wings where guys can keep their games simple.

 

[Bluenote13]

The Rangers can not trade for or sign anyone under 6'2 210-220 pounds and plays a very nasty game.

I watched every minute of the 2nd round and like always...the Rangers got manhandled and yet...every year we get smaller and softer and every year everyone comes on these boards and ask for Alexander Burmistrov's of the league...kid is 6'1 180...the exact opposite of what we need.

Lucic ***** slapped Nash and we didn't have anyone who could come to his aide the way that Thornton came to his teammates aide...I just don't get why you guys can't see that.

Maybe if it didn't always come from guys like you, the fight club, then that opinion would hold more weight.

But who, who are the players we should bring in to go up agianst Lucic? You seem to have the answer to the toughness solution who is it? Do we trade for him or draft him ? Is that player affordable? Can he play alongside our top players? Where does Mcilrath belong in this conversation ?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

The Rangers can not trade for or sign anyone under 6'2 210-220 pounds and plays a very nasty game.

I watched every minute of the 2nd round and like always...the Rangers got manhandled and yet...every year we get smaller and softer and every year everyone comes on these boards and ask for Alexander Burmistrov's of the league...kid is 6'1 180...the exact opposite of what we need.

Lucic ***** slapped Nash and we didn't have anyone who could come to his aide the way that Thornton came to his teammates aide...I just don't get why you guys can't see that.

perhaps the 6"4 216 lb Nash should stick up for himself?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Rangers have size, (Nash, Clowe, Kreider, Boyle, Dorsett) perhaps they should play like cally and hagelin and not little *****es?

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Rangers have size, (Nash, Clowe, Kreider, Boyle, Dorsett) perhaps they should play like cally and hagelin and not little *****es?

Dorsett is 5'10-5'11 and under 200lbs.

 

[Orr Nightmare]

Maybe if it didn't always come from guys like you, the fight club, then that opinion would hold more weight.

But who, who are the players we should bring in to go up agianst Lucic? You seem to have the answer to the toughness solution who is it? Do we trade for him or draft him ? Is that player affordable? Can he play alongside our top players? Where does Mcilrath belong in this conversation ?

right, the fight club...good one:

This is message is to Mr. Sather.

Please make the following moves:

Patrick Bordeleau – 3 years – 2.5 million

Ryan O’Bryne – 3 years – 8 million

Ryan Clowe – 3 years – 9 million

Trade Haley for any kind of pick.

Trade Del Zotto to Florida for Alex Petrovic and Drew Shore.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Taylor Pyatt to Wild for Charlie Coyle and Kyle Medvic.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Powe to Habs for Tinordi and Thrower

 

[Orr Nightmare]

Rangers have size, (Nash, Clowe, Kreider, Boyle, Dorsett) perhaps they should play like cally and hagelin and not little *****es?

Clowe is not soft...he got hurt.

Kreider is not soft but you don't want him fighting....he hits everything in sight when he gets ice.

Nash is soft.

Boyle is soft.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Dorsett is 5'10-5'11 and under 200lbs.

but he plays with size like cally and hags.. ok even so, they had/have size, use it and stop worrying about bringing someone in to protect these 6" 200+lb guys

 

[Orr Nightmare]

I see it, unfortunately, the 6'4 220+ lbs offensively gifted centers are hard to come by. Hence, why I would rather have skilled puck distributors at center and build up on the wings.

Kreider-Brassard-Nash
Clowe-Stepan-Callahan
Hagelin-Burmistrov-Dorsett
Nystrom-Lindberg/Miller-Boyle

Build up size on the wings where guys can keep their games simple.

your lines don't look bad at all...I actually like them...just not sure I am a fan of this kid...I think he is a good player but might not be a good fit for our club.

I think u need a nastier guy on the 4th...whether it is in place of Boyle(who I like) or Nystrom (who I also like).

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Clowe is not soft...he got hurt.

Kreider is not soft but you don't want him fighting....he hits everything in sight when he gets ice.

Nash is soft.

Boyle is soft.

nash is only soft when it comes to hitting and sticking up for himself. He's strong as hell on the puck

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Rangers have size, (Nash, Clowe, Kreider, Boyle, Dorsett) perhaps they should play like cally and hagelin and not little *****es?

Clowe has always played with snarl just when he comes to NYR he gets hurt. Kreider had some good hits in the Bruins series. he needs to do this consistently... On Nash well for a guy his size, he rarely uses it. its a shame.. imagine if Nash had a mean streak. i dont get how the media and some fans consider Nash a power forward when HE DOES NOT PLAY LIKE ONE.... im guessing some players dont use their size to their advantage because they are scared of getting a penalty maybe or lack of heart in the player Boyle is too slow to catch people with big hits although he hits but when he does he falls down. horrible balance and skating ability..

 

[NYR Viper]

Maybe if it didn't always come from guys like you, the fight club, then that opinion would hold more weight.

But who, who are the players we should bring in to go up agianst Lucic? You seem to have the answer to the toughness solution who is it? Do we trade for him or draft him ? Is that player affordable? Can he play alongside our top players? Where does Mcilrath belong in this conversation ?

He did make a pretty good recommendation a few pages back of Boredeleau from Colorado as a 4th line winger. He can skate pretty well and is aggressive. 6'6 he is a legit heavy.

I have recommended Nystrom as a feisty 4th liner who will drop the gloves a bit. IMO the team needs more guys who can play the game AND drop the gloves.

I still think they need to add another top-9 forward who can intimidate a bit, hence why I like Clowe if the terms are right. Kreider will help.

 

[LetterJ]

right, the fight club...good one:

This is message is to Mr. Sather.

Please make the following moves:

Patrick Bordeleau – 3 years – 2.5 million

Ryan O’Bryne – 3 years – 8 million

Ryan Clowe – 3 years – 9 million

Trade Haley for any kind of pick.

Trade Del Zotto to Florida for Alex Petrovic and Drew Shore.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Taylor Pyatt to Wild for Charlie Coyle and Kyle Medvic.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Powe to Habs for Tinordi and Thrower

Dalton Thrower regressed a LOT this year. Additionally, Thrower did not play well at all at the Memorial Cup (although he was paired with Avs first rounder Duncan Siemens.)

 

[Orr Nightmare]

Maybe if it didn't always come from guys like you, the fight club, then that opinion would hold more weight.

But who, who are the players we should bring in to go up agianst Lucic? You seem to have the answer to the toughness solution who is it? Do we trade for him or draft him ? Is that player affordable? Can he play alongside our top players? Where does Mcilrath belong in this conversation ?

The Pens traded to average dmen for 2 power fowards and a dman...neither are "fighters"...but guys that can defend themselves...but all i want is fighters.

 

[NYR Viper]

Dorsett is 5'10-5'11 and under 200lbs.

Dorsett is probably the toughest pound-for-pound player on this team. He fought Thornton, that takes gumption. Loved his addition, but the Rangers need more players like that.

right, the fight club...good one:

This is message is to Mr. Sather.

Please make the following moves:

Patrick Bordeleau – 3 years – 2.5 million

Ryan O’Bryne – 3 years – 8 million

Ryan Clowe – 3 years – 9 million

Trade Haley for any kind of pick.

Trade Del Zotto to Florida for Alex Petrovic and Drew Shore.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Taylor Pyatt to Wild for Charlie Coyle and Kyle Medvic.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Powe to Habs for Tinordi and Thrower

I am curious as to why you don't like Haley? I wouldn't mind Bordeleau if he is used correctly.

O'Byrne is a traffic cone. If that is what Clowe is going for, he should be brought back immediately.

but he plays with size like cally and hags.. ok even so, they had/have size, use it and stop worrying about bringing someone in to protect these 6" 200+lb guys

It's not about protection. It's about the ability to force your will on other teams. It's about the ability to stand-up as a team and feel good about who has your back. Players play bigger when they know it is by committee.

your lines don't look bad at all...I actually like them...just not sure I am a fan of this kid...I think he is a good player but might not be a good fit for our club.

I think u need a nastier guy on the 4th...whether it is in place of Boyle(who I like) or Nystrom (who I also like).

I wouldn't mind moving Boyle for a nastier guy, just hard to find. With Clowe on the 2nd, Dorsett on the 3rd and Nystrom on the 4th I think they would be fine.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

IMO Boyle is too weak on his skates to use his size effectively. Nash is somewhat soft, but not as bad as some of you make it seem, although as the season progressed he did seem to get softer.

 

[GAGLine]

I'd rather keep Richards one more year to see what he's got.

Does it matter what he's got left if he's going to get amnestied anyway? Whether it's this summer or next, it's gonna happen. Unless we think he can be a different maker on a cup contending team next year (doubtful), I see no reason to keep him around.

 

[Bluenote13]

right, the fight club...good one:

This is message is to Mr. Sather.

Please make the following moves:

Patrick Bordeleau – 3 years – 2.5 million

Ryan O’Bryne – 3 years – 8 million

Ryan Clowe – 3 years – 9 million

Trade Haley for any kind of pick.

Trade Del Zotto to Florida for Alex Petrovic and Drew Shore.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Taylor Pyatt to Wild for Charlie Coyle and Kyle Medvic.

Or

Trade Del Zotto and Powe to Habs for Tinordi and Thrower

I won't address the trades as you undervalue the opposing teams return or are overrating Del Z's value. Either way those are horrible deals for each team you mentioned.

Signings seem way off on money with Clowe, and two stiffs like Bordeleau and O'Byrne are not great matchups against guys like Lucic. Bordeleau is a good 4th line option, so yeah, thats one.

Again, your name is orr nightmare, of course I'm gonna want some backup other than 'we need more toughness'. In all honesty Dave Maloney, we need more everything except goaltending and shot blocking skills.

IMO Boyle is too weak on his skates to use his size effectively. Nash is somewhat soft, but not as bad as some of you make it seem, although as the season progressed he did seem to get softer.

Nash got softer as the injuries piled up. Happened to Gaborik last year too.