Speculation: 2013 Off-Season Speculation/Be a GM Thread II

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Inferno

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If you don't improve the team (and trading current players for "futures" is not doing that), you're basically giving Hank every reason to walk out the door next off season.

Signing Horton improves the team...giving him 6 or 7 mil, while improving the team in the short term KILLS them long term.

Hortons a good player, not worth more than 4-4.5 mil.

Henriks not leaving. If hes prepared to leave you can get a kings randsom for him at the deadline.
 

LaffyTaffyNYR

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Signing Horton improves the team...giving him 6 or 7 mil, while improving the team in the short term KILLS them long term.

Hortons a good player, not worth more than 4-4.5 mil.

Henriks not leaving. If hes prepared to leave you can get a kings randsom for him at the deadline.

I'm not saying Horton necessarily.. I'm saying improve the team period.

kings ransom or not, if we lose him we're screwed.
 

BBKers

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Some info to help you be The GM

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit 2013| Status| Team| Drafted
1| D | McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) | $1,300,000* |RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2 |D| Sauer, Michael (LTIR) | $1,250,000 | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #40 NYR (2005)
3| F | Stepan, Derek (ELC)| $875,000 | RFA 2013 |New York Rangers/NHL|R2 #51 NYR (2008)
4| F | Hagelin, Carl (ELC) | $875,000* | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #168 NYR (2007)
5| F | Zuccarello, Mats| $700,000 | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
6| F | Ferriero, Benn | $700,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
7| D | Pyett, Logan | $600,000| RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
8| F | Palmieri, Nick | $577,500 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL | R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
9| F | Mashinter, Brandon | $550,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted [/table]


UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit 2013| Status| Team| Drafted
1| F| Clowe, Ryan | $3,625,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #175 San Jose (2001)
2| D| Hamrlik, Roman | $3,500,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Washington (1992)
3| D| Eminger, Steve | $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Washington (2002)
4| D | Gilroy, Matt| $650,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
5| D | Collins, Sean | $600,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
6| F | Segal, Brandon| $550,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
7| D| Vernace, Mike | $525,000| UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #201 San Jose (2004) [/table]

TRADE GUIDELINE
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013-2014 (39)

NEW YORK RANGERS (17)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
1| F| Brassard, Derick | $3,200,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
2| D | Del Zotto, M. | $2,550,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #20 NYR (2008)
3| F | Kreider, Chris (ELC)| $1,325,000* | RFA 2014|New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #19 NYR (2009)
4| D| Moore, John (ELC)| $965,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
5| G | Lundqvist, Henrik | $6,875,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #208 NYR (2000)
6| F | Callahan, Ryan | $4,275,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #127 NYR (2004)
7| D| Girardi, Dan | $3,325,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
8| D| Stralman, Anton| $1,700,000| UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
9| F| Boyle, Brian| $1,700,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
10| F | Pyatt, Taylor | $1,550,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
11| F | Powe, Darroll | $1,066,667 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
12| G |Biron, Martin | $1,300,000 |UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
13| F | Asham, Arron | $1,000,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
14| D | Staal, Marc | $3,975,000 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 NYR (2005)
15| F| Dorsett, Derek | $1,633,333 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
16| F | Nash, Rick (NMC) | $7,800,000 | UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
17| F | Richards, Brad (NMC) | $6,666,667 | UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL| R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)[/table]

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (22)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
18| F | Jean, Kyle (ELC)| $925,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
19| F | Bourque, Ryan (ELC) | $900,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R3 #80 NYR (2009)
20| G | Missiaen, Jason (ELC) | $750,000* |RFA 2014 | Connecticut Whale/AHL|Undrafted
21| G | Stajcer, Scott (ELC)| $700,000* | RFA 2014| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL|R5 #140 NYR (2009)
22| F | Wilson, Jason (ELC)| $588,333 | RFA 2014| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R5 #130 NYR (2010)
23| D | Bickel, Stu| $750,000| UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted
24| F | Haley, Micheal| $600,000 | UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
25| F | Newbury, Kris | $600,000 |UFA 2014 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
26| D | Allen, Connor (ELC)| $1,775,000*| RFA 2015|Connecticut Whale/AHL|Undrafted
27| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC)| $1,295,000* | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL|R1 #10 NYR (2010)
28| F | Miller, J.T. (ELC)| $1,244,167* | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL| R1 #15 NYR (2011)
29| F | Thomas, Christian (ELC)| $970,000* | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL| R2 #40 NYR (2010)
30| F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) |$900,000* |RFA 2015| Connecticut Whale/AHL|R6 #157 NYR (2010)
31| F | Yogan, Andrew (ELC)| $800,000 | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #100 NYR (2010)
32| F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) | $760,000* |RFA 2015| Playing for Team Sweden at WC| R2 #57 PHX (2010)
33| F | Hrivik, Marek (ELC)| $685,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
34| G | Talbot, Cameron | $562,600 | UFA 2015| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
35| D | Hughes, Tommy (ELC)| $608,333| RFA 2016|London Knights/OHL|Undrafted
36| F | Nicholls, J. (ELC)| $709,167* | RFA 2016| Saskatoon Blades/WHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
37| F | St. Croix, M. (ELC)| $665,000 | RFA 2016| Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011)
38 |D |Noreau, Samuel (ELC) | $645,000| RFA 2016|Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ | R5 #136 NYR(2011)
39| F | Kantor, Michael (ELC)| $583,333| RFA 2016| Sudbury Wolves/OHL|Undrafted
[/table]

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are a few more here I believe)
[table="head;width=2500]Pos| Player|Team| Drafted
D |Pashnin, Mikhail| HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL |R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA| R3 #72 NYR (2011)
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA |R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F |Nieves, Cristoval | Michigan Wolverines/CCHA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D |Andersson, Calle| Malmö /HA | R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F |Spelling, Thomas| Oskarshamn/HA | R5 #142 NYR(2012)[/table]

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013
  • #65 - 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
  • #75 - 3rd round Columbus (acquired in Nash trade)
  • #80 - 3rd round NYR
  • #110 - 4th round NYR
  • #170 - 6th round NYR

  • NO 1st rounder - #19 - (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
  • NO 2nd rounder - #49 (traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013)
  • NO 5th rounder - #140 - (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
  • NO 7th rounder - #200 - (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)

  • NYR Draft picks in 2014
  • 1st round NYR
  • 2nd round NYR*
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
  • 5th round NYR*
  • 6th round NYR
  • 6th round Columbus (for Marian Gaborik)
  • 7th round NYR**

  • * - Eventually NO 2nd rounder NYR (conditionally traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR - then San Jose gets the pick. It will be the Rangers' 5th - round pick to San Jose in 2014 if this condition is not met.)
  • ** - Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)
 
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Raspewtin

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Regier is far from an idiot. Please do not just say things...

>Tyler Myers' contract that paid him 12 mill last year
>Christian Ehrhoff (while a good player)'s ridiculous contract.
>Ville Leino's contract
>Starting out his BUF tenor very well, worse every year. Haven't been a serious contender since Drury, Afinogenov, and Briere were the team.
>Good scout, but not good at anything else.

He might not be an idiot but he is a very dumb GM.
 

Stasis

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>Tyler Myers' contract that paid him 12 mill last year
>Christian Ehrhoff (while a good player)'s ridiculous contract.
>Ville Leino's contract
>Starting out his BUF tenor very well, worse every year. Haven't been a serious contender since Drury, Afinogenov, and Briere were the team.
>Good scout, but not good at anything else.

He might not be an idiot but he is a very dumb GM.

Myers was paid $12M as a huge signing bonus of $10M. That's Pegula money talking and wanting to lock-up their (supposed) franchise defenseman for a long time at a very reasonable cap hit of $5.5M. That Myers regressed couldn't have been foreseen, and I still think he'll turn things around and be worth his cap. He's not right now. It was a smart move to make and helped show their new identity, that they were committed to spending and doing what it took to become an ideal destination. To be relevant. Ehrhoff (along with Regehr) were also part of that. Hoff's contract is way too long, definitely, but that's what it took to get him to Buffalo. He's been great for them so far and he has a few good years left I believe. His cap hit is small for what he brings to the table. Leino is just a mystery. That was silly. He'll be bought out I'm sure... and maybe Ehrhoff as well due to the length of the contract with the new CBA rules.

Either way, Regier isn't an idiot. He's a GM who has made a few mistakes here and there (like they all have...) but nothing massively crippling to the team.
 

Nac Mac Feegle

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Putting a tall, scrawny, 18-year-old kid on your blueline smacks of stupidity to me. Resting your hopes on that same kid at age 19-20 also smacks of stupidity.

It's no surprise Myers regressed. He should've had at one more year in junior to bulk up at the very least. He was an accident waiting to happen, and when it did, say bye-bye to his confidence.
 

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Putting a tall, scrawny, 18-year-old kid on your blueline smacks of stupidity to me. Resting your hopes on that same kid at age 19-20 also smacks of stupidity.

It's no surprise Myers regressed. He should've had at one more year in junior to bulk up at the very least. He was an accident waiting to happen, and when it did, say bye-bye to his confidence.

Putting a capable player in your lineup "smacks of stupidity" ? I call it invaluable experience at the highest level... Did you watch him play? Seriously, I'd stick Myers in my bottom four then, now whenever. .. Let's not exaggerate..
 

Punxrocknyc19*

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>Tyler Myers' contract that paid him 12 mill last year
>Christian Ehrhoff (while a good player)'s ridiculous contract.
>Ville Leino's contract
>Starting out his BUF tenor very well, worse every year. Haven't been a serious contender since Drury, Afinogenov, and Briere were the team.
>Good scout, but not good at anything else.

He might not be an idiot but he is a very dumb GM.

that is one reason i suggested that trade
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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I like this for the most part. Couple of notes:

- Asham is under contract for another season.
- Vigneault would be my second choice, but I'd be content with him — Eakins is my #1

1) Damn. I don't know. Doubt another team will take him. He could be 13th/14th forward for the first half of the season.
2) I don't know much about Eakins. What I do know is that we need experience. Eakins could turn out to be a stud in the NHL, I don't know. We were 1 step away from Stanley Cup last year. We have the pieces. When the team was energized and healthy this year, it was incredibly hard to beat them this year. Thing is (and part of why Torts probably got the boot) is that he couldn't motivate them anymore. You need experience in that room, Eakins has none in the NHL. He's a guy you bring in when your team is up and coming/rebuilding, not a guy you risk your franchise and shot at the SC (only legit one since '94).

Vigneault, i'm split on Tippet and Ruff. Would love Laviolette if he's fired.
 

Punxrocknyc19*

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Rangers need more size down the middle


how about Zack Smith to NYR for Michael St. Croix, 3rd (Fla)

Rangers need to upgrade their 4th line... i wonder if some Rangers fans notice that.. there is a reason the past 2 years the 4th lines from other teams made the Rangers look horrible..
 

Kershaw

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Rangers need more size down the middle


how about Zack Smith to NYR for Michael St. Croix, 3rd (Fla)

Rangers need to upgrade their 4th line... i wonder if some Rangers fans notice that.. there is a reason the past 2 years the 4th lines from other teams made the Rangers look horrible..

I'd do it for sure. Zack Smith is pretty good.
 

Punxrocknyc19*

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I'd do it for sure. Zack Smith is pretty good.

provides grit toughness younger than Boyle.. Rangers can shop Boyle for more depth or move him to the wing... Rangers need to upgrade their bottom lines. trading for Dorsett helped a little.. personally id start Lindberg on the 3rd with Boyle on the wing.. Boyle plays better on the wing.. let him take the important faceoffs...
 

Punxrocknyc19*

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I like Horton. ..4 yrs @ 4.5 (75) per. Should Boston win the cup, his price will increase. .. Go Pens!!! lol :)

maybe he stays on the Bruins.. he has good history there. i can see him flopping as an UFA. he fits well on that team.. if i was him, id stay on a winning franchise.
 

Kershaw

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provides grit toughness younger than Boyle.. Rangers can shop Boyle for more depth or move him to the wing... Rangers need to upgrade their bottom lines. trading for Dorsett helped a little.. personally id start Lindberg on the 3rd with Boyle on the wing.. Boyle plays better on the wing.. let him take the important faceoffs...

Only problem is, we traded our FLA 3rd in a package of picks for Ryane Clowe.

If we get Zack Smith, I expect him to center the 3rd line.
 

LetterJ

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maybe he stays on the Bruins.. he has good history there. i can see him flopping as an UFA. he fits well on that team.. if i was him, id stay on a winning franchise.

According to capgeek, the Bruins have some cap issues this off season: 17 $64,300,000 $58,379,643 $737,500 $6,657,857
http://www.capgeek.com/bruins/cap-calculator/

17 roster players and 6.66 to spend. Rask is an RFA and Horton, Ference and Khodobin as UFA.

Rask and Horton easily bust that 6.66.

That said, that total amount of 58.3 includes the LTIR of Savard.
 
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