Prospect Info: 2013-2014 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 12/17)

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Teams are allowed 4 players with one year of pro hockey experience.

Miller and McIlrath are eligible to play.

Yogan and Jean have one year pro experience. Hrivik.

Donnay is playing for the Rangers at Traverse City.

Donnay, 19, wasn't selected in the NHL Entry Draft in June. But the Fenton, Mich., native attended the Rangers' prospect camp a month ago. That led to a chance to play for the Rangers in the Detroit Red Wings' Traverse City Prospects Tournament in Traverse City, Mich., in September.

http://www.goerie.com/article/20130...tters-D-Donnay-signs-3-year-deal-with-Rangers

Donnay is the only confirmed player

McIlrath
Allen
Hughes
Noreau
Donnay
Dodero
Graves
 
Teams are allowed 4 players with one year of pro hockey experience.

Miller and McIlrath are eligible to play.

Yogan and Jean have one year pro experience. Hrivik.

Donnay is playing for the Rangers at Traverse City.



http://www.goerie.com/article/20130...tters-D-Donnay-signs-3-year-deal-with-Rangers

Donnay is the only confirmed player

McIlrath
Allen
Hughes
Noreau
Donnay
Dodero
Graves
They'll definitely be able to out punch the other 7 teams. Hope they'll score some goals too.
 
Teams are allowed 4 players with one year of pro hockey experience.

Miller and McIlrath are eligible to play.

Yogan and Jean have one year pro experience. Hrivik.

Donnay is playing for the Rangers at Traverse City.



http://www.goerie.com/article/20130...tters-D-Donnay-signs-3-year-deal-with-Rangers

Donnay is the only confirmed player

McIlrath
Allen
Hughes
Noreau
Donnay
Dodero
Graves


just as Graves is there, also expect DuClair and Skapski from this year's draft.

also rookie forwards St Croix, Kristo, Kantor, Nicholls, along with Fast or Lindberg.

Un-drafted Tolchinsky has been written about as committed to play for NYR at TC.

Jeff Malcolm could also be there as G. Stajcer has attended 3 times already so maybe not him.

Typically only 2d year pros who had injuries, or weren't effective, attend, so Yogan, Jean and Hrivik, who proved themselves pretty much at AHL level, may not be included. Miller, being younger, may be included.
Sometimes an exception for a 3d year player is allowed, and which is why i wouldn't be stunned if Jason Wilson were on the TC team.
Instead of all 3 of Yogan, Jean, Hrivik, expect some tryout players, wolfpack camp invite players, and maybe Greenville rookie or young 2dyears

here are the rosters from the past TC's
2011:
http://pointstreak.com/prostats/teamplayerstats.html?teamid=327749
2010:
http://pointstreak.com/prostats/teamplayerstats.html?teamid=265415
2009:
http://pointstreak.com/prostats/teamplayerstats.html?teamid=150465
 
A combination of Miller/Yogan/Kristo/Lindberg/Fast/St. Croix/Hrivik, along with Duclair/Nicholls/Tolchinsky will make for an excellent top 9.

Assuming that doesn't count Lindberg and Fast in the pro-requirement range, Miller, McIlrath, Yogan and Hrivik get the invites.

Miller- Lindberg- Fast
Yogan-St. Croix- Kristo
Hrivik- Nicholls- Tolchinsky?
Duclair - Kantor - ?

Defense will struggle on the breakouts and offensively, but it's a colossal defense that will do an excellent job shutting down.

McIlrath (6'5") Noreau (6'5") Donnay (6'7") Tommy Hughes (6'2") Connor Allen (6'2") Graves (6'4")

Good lord.

Sorry, it's getting to that point where I'm desperate for speculation.
 
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A combination of Miller/Yogan/Kristo/Lindberg/Fast/St. Croix/Hrivik, along with Duclair/Nicholls/Tolchinsky will make for an excellent top 9.

Assuming that doesn't count Lindberg and Fast in the pro-requirement range, Miller, McIlrath, Yogan and Hrivik get the invites.

Miller- Lindberg- Fast
Yogan-St. Croix- Kristo
Hrivik- Nicholls- Tolchinsky?
Duclair - Kantor - ?

Defense will struggle on the breakouts and offensively, but it's a colossal defense that will do an excellent job shutting down.

McIlrath (6'5") Noreau (6'5") Donnay (6'7") Tommy Hughes (6'2") Connor Allen (6'2") Graves (6'4")

Good lord.

Sorry, it's getting to that point where I'm desperate for speculation.

Hehe Miller-Lindberg-Fasth could line up against any line in the world. Lindberg player regulary against Canada's top line of Ladd-Giroux-Stamkos in the WCH's and did a good job. Fasth is just as good as him. Miller can skate with anyone.

Tim Erixon played. He must have been about as old as Fasth/Lindberg with about the same experience.
 
Hehe Miller-Lindberg-Fasth could line up against any line in the world. Lindberg player regulary against Canada's top line of Ladd-Giroux-Stamkos in the WCH's and did a good job. Fasth is just as good as him. Miller can skate with anyone.

Tim Erixon played. He must have been about as old as Fasth/Lindberg with about the same experience.

Yeah I think that would be arguably the best line in the tournament.

Hrivik/Yogan- St. Croix- Kristo is super slick and skilled offensively as well. Honestly everything I've read about Tolchinsky indicates he could play in the top 6 as well.
 
Chris Peters

3. Top-four D — The U.S. had a lot of solid, if unspectacular defensemen in camp. This may not be a hole so much as it is an area in which the U.S. could be better. There are guys that can step in and eat the minutes of Jones and Trouba, but probably not adequately enough to ease the loss of those two. Matt Grzelcyk, Patrick Sieloff and Brady Skjei all look like prime candidates, while Connor Carrick made a case for himself to play some big minutes. Steven Santini and Ian McCoshen also could be possibilities in a top-four role. There’s plenty of guys that would be excellent options as fifth, sixth and seventh defensemen, but there was no guy in camp that looked like a bona fide No. 1. This is a unit that will have to play some really great hockey for the U.S. to have a chance.

Brady Skjei (NYR) — Expectations were high for Skjei coming into camp and I think he mostly met them. Vastly improved from his camp a year ago, Skjei showed solid play defensively and was utilizing his high-end skating extremely well. He has good size and was throwing his weight around a bit in camp. Skjei also showed an ability to get the puck out of trouble with his feet and help the team transition well with strong zone exits. I don’t see him being left home unless he tanks in the first half at Minnesota.

Cristoval Nieves (NYR) — Nieves is one of those guys where if he finds that missing piece to his game, he could be really good. With size, speed and some truly remarkable puck skills, he’s got a lot of the tools going for him. He just couldn’t seem to finish the play out with the right decision or buy himself time when he needed it. That led to poor shots or turnovers and that’s going to be tough to do at the WJC level. The speed and skills are there, but I think he needs some more work. That said, he’s the kind of guy that could make a good case for being on the team in the first half. Nieves should have a substantial role at Michigan next year and could earn a spot that way. I don’t think he did enough in camp to say one way or another.

http://unitedstatesofhockey.com/2013/08/12/2013-u-s-wjc-camp-wrap-up/
 
Jim Cerny spoke with Brady Skjei today about the WJC camp

"I think it went very well, the coaching staff seemed really happy with my play," said Skjei, who will be entering his sophomore year at the University of Minnesota in a couple of weeks. "I thought I improved my two-way play while still being a shutdown guy in the D zone. And compared to last year I was just more confident. I knew what was expected of me, there were no suprises. And it went really well."

http://blueshirtsunited.com/posts/3751/skjei-i-will-do-whatever-it-takes#.UglnXBYspFI

Its the two sophomores in Skjei and Reilly. Two undersized upperclassmen in Marshall and Parenteau. Senior Justin Holl who played forward last season. Parenteau played forward last season at times. Then its 3 freshmen in Vanelli,Brodzinski and Bischoff. Those 3 players need to add weight. Its not a very big defense. Skjei is listed at 6-2 197. Holl is 6-3 190. Vanelli is 6-2 170. He was an early cut from the WJC camp. Brodzinski was in the 31 players who played in the 3 games.

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-hockey/mtt/minn-m-hockey-mtt.html
 
Its sounds like Skjei and Nieves are coming along fine.

I haven't seen much of them, but Derek Stepan didn't have a mind blowing first year in the NCAA either. Nieves can definitely handle the puck and Skjei can definitely skate. That is a good start.
 
Its sounds like Skjei and Nieves are coming along fine.

I haven't seen much of them, but Derek Stepan didn't have a mind blowing first year in the NCAA either. Nieves can definitely handle the puck and Skjei can definitely skate. That is a good start.

There aren't many guys who jump into the NCAA as freshmen and post great numbers. That's even more true at high profile programs. You're playing against lots of guys age 22 or older who have the body of men. And there's an emphasis placed on veteran/senior leadership as well.

There was no reason to be down on Skjei after last year. He was just fine, and his game obviously developed well. He'll open some eyes this year.
 
Nieves was already a top player for Michigan. He finished 3rd in points, tied with Trouba.
 
Nieves was already a top player for Michigan. He finished 3rd in points, tied with Trouba.

And not coincidentally, Michigan had a bad year. They were a team made up of 16 underclassmen and just 10 upperclassmen. Plenty of opportunity (and need) for younger guys to play a large role. Only two of their top six scorers were upperclassmen.

Conversely, Minnesota was a top-five team, stacked on the back end and comprised of 13 upperclassmen and 13 underclassmen. Five of their top six scorers were upperclassmen. They were a more established and defined team.
 
With pressure. Michigan plays in front of an almost NHL size audience. You learn to play there, you wont be intimidated.

I trust Red Berenson to grow players. If Nieves takes a step forward this season he will be setting himself up nicely.
 
Removed Dodero from the list, since it's just an AHL deal.

I'd have rather had him on an ELC than Donnay. We'll see though.
 
So no word on the prospect tourney games being streamed? Can someone send Cerny a tweet to inquire?
 
Dallas released their Traverse City roster. 5 1st round picks.

http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/201...traverse-city-roster-could-be-best-ever.html/

Nichushkin
Faska
Dickinson
Oleksiak
Campbell

Ok, that group is pretty impressive. Definitely better on defense and in goal.

What I think it will come down to in a small tournament like this is that players like Lindberg and Fast are not better prospects then Nichushkin, but they're better hockey players at the moment.

That pro experience from Lindberg, Fast, Miller, Hrivik and Yogan is vital.
 
Ok, that group is pretty impressive. Definitely better on defense and in goal.

What I think it will come down to in a small tournament like this is that players like Lindberg and Fast are not better prospects then Nichushkin, but they're better hockey players at the moment.

That pro experience from Lindberg, Fast, Miller, Hrivik and Yogan is vital.

I can't remember if there was much fighting in these tournaments in years past - but if there has been I wonder if there's any chance that Oleksiak and one of McIlrath or Noreau will end up dropping the gloves.... BIG boys!
 
I can't remember if there was much fighting in these tournaments in years past - but if there has been I wonder if there's any chance that Oleksiak and one of McIlrath or Noreau will end up dropping the gloves.... BIG boys!

It would be entertaining, but both of them would destroy Oleksiak, let alone anyone else in this tournament. :laugh:

And yeah they fight in it a decent amount. McIlrath rocked somebody two years ago.
 
I can't remember if there was much fighting in these tournaments in years past - but if there has been I wonder if there's any chance that Oleksiak and one of McIlrath or Noreau will end up dropping the gloves.... BIG boys!

def fights. Don't think Oleksiak would go for it though. Will probably be their top D, would get destroyed by Dylan or Sammy also.
 
Anthony Duclair is playing center since the start of Quebec's camp. It will be interesting to see how it goes but so far he plays well.
 
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