OT: 2012-13 MLB Season Thread

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Devils Trap

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Everyone from this years team should be back, I except almost everyone back, except 1 player

Thanks for everything Ellsbury, JBJ Come on down ! (Just my prediction) If not JBJ, then Gomes in LF , Victorino in CF , Nava in RF

Qualify Ellsbury and take the draft picks wherever he signs. Redsox are adamant in not giving him a longer term deal
 

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Turned to ESPN to catch the replay of the Flyers garbage from last night.
RedSox celebration. Changes channel fast.
 

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Prince Fielder traded for Ian Kinsler

Unlikely, but perhaps Rangers making space at 2B to try to lure Cano?

Texas wins this one IMO
 

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Prince Fielder traded for Ian Kinsler

Unlikely, but perhaps Rangers making space at 2B to try to lure Cano?

Texas wins this one IMO

That's a Profar move. Not Cano. They chose defense up the middle over offense. Profar is no slouch but it will take him some time to develop.

Fielders power will skyrocket in Texas. They needed that power.
 

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Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: McCann close with #Yankees on five-year deal for more than $80M.
 

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Sad to see McCann go, but it would have been a mistake for the braves to sign him. Much better for him to go to the al so he can be a dh in a year
 

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McCann has only missed 140 games in the last 3 seasons.

Yea he's been in the top 10 in the league in GP by a catcher each of the last 3 seasons - and to go a little further, he's been in the top 10 every single season of his career in GP by a C, except for his first season
 

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So many holes to fill for the Yankees but at least catcher isn't one of them anymore.

They'll have to let him DH a bit though to make sure he stays healthy.
 

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How the **** does Phil Hughes manage to get $8m a year, after struggling as he has the past few years, especially after last year's 4-15 performance which set all kinds of bad records both MLB and Yankee, on an 85 win team?

Now he's on a team thats lost 90+ games each of the past 3 years
 

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How the **** does Phil Hughes manage to get $8m a year, after struggling as he has the past few years, especially after last year's 4-15 performance which set all kinds of bad records both MLB and Yankee, on an 85 win team?

Now he's on a team thats lost 90+ games each of the past 3 years

Twins have coveted Hughes for a long long time. I believe Hughes saw a 6 million offer from one of the California teams as well.

Hughes was ruined by the Yankees. He entered the farm system with a 93-95 mph fastball, a wicked slider, and a developing changeup. During that time the Yankees had an organizational philosophy to not allow young pitchers to throw sliders - I **** you not. Joba escaped because of his rapid rise through the system, but they converted as many pitchers as they possibly could into fastball/curveball pitchers.

Despite that Hughes developed a pretty killer curve. Called up and nearly no-hit the Rangers before going down with the hammy. Yo-yo'd back and forth from the bullpen to the rotation, trying to implement a cutter into his repertoire which pretty much ruined the kid. He was trying to be too cute with that pitch from the moment he learned it from Mo.

He's got top of the rotation potential - he always has. The Yankees are just really bad at developing young pitchers (see: Joba, Phil, Ian, Betances, Brackman, and Banuelos).

He's going to a park that won't victimize his long ball tendencies. He's a good good pitcher. He will be one that thrives out of the bright lights of NY.
 

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Twins have coveted Hughes for a long long time. I believe Hughes saw a 6 million offer from one of the California teams as well.

Hughes was ruined by the Yankees. He entered the farm system with a 93-95 mph fastball, a wicked slider, and a developing changeup. During that time the Yankees had an organizational philosophy to not allow young pitchers to throw sliders - I **** you not. Joba escaped because of his rapid rise through the system, but they converted as many pitchers as they possibly could into fastball/curveball pitchers.

Despite that Hughes developed a pretty killer curve. Called up and nearly no-hit the Rangers before going down with the hammy. Yo-yo'd back and forth from the bullpen to the rotation, trying to implement a cutter into his repertoire which pretty much ruined the kid. He was trying to be too cute with that pitch from the moment he learned it from Mo.

He's got top of the rotation potential - he always has. The Yankees are just really bad at developing young pitchers (see: Joba, Phil, Ian, Betances, Brackman, and Banuelos).

He's going to a park that won't victimize his long ball tendencies. He's a good good pitcher. He will be one that thrives out of the bright lights of NY.

I don't at all agree with how he and Joba were dicked around for 3 years, and then injuries both made each of their situations worse

I just can't fathom how a team would consider even giving Hughes anything above $5m, regardless of how bad the SP market is
 

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I don't at all agree with how he and Joba were dicked around for 3 years, and then injuries both made each of their situations worse

I just can't fathom how a team would consider even giving Hughes anything above $5m, regardless of how bad the SP market is

Well you also have to consider how desperate the Twins were to acquire Hughes. He would have gone to California for 5 or 6 to be closer to home. But the Twins wanted him in the Santana deal, if you remember. Had the Yankees not been so sold on Hughes Santana would have been a Yankee. Crazy to think about.

The Twins wanted to not only draft Hughes, but tried to trade for him (Hunter, Santana, Morneau most recently) and the Yankees have consistently said no to a number of trades for a variety of reasons.

It would not at all shock me if Hughes pitched to a sub 3.25 ERA with the Twins. He's a good good pitcher and the guy only ever need stability, consistency, and someone who believed in him. He never had any of that in New York unfortunately. It's sad to see the last of that era depart. It's funny to think Cano could leave as well.

I remember the Yankees gave the Diamondbacks a pick of a pool of players as a PTBNL for the Johnson deal and Cano was in there. Crazy stupid the Yankees are. Frustratingly stupid with their kids though they're coming around now to understand he importance of a farm system.
 

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Well you also have to consider how desperate the Twins were to acquire Hughes. He would have gone to California for 5 or 6 to be closer to home. But the Twins wanted him in the Santana deal, if you remember. Had the Yankees not been so sold on Hughes Santana would have been a Yankee. Crazy to think about.

The Twins wanted to not only draft Hughes, but tried to trade for him (Hunter, Santana, Morneau most recently) and the Yankees have consistently said no to a number of trades for a variety of reasons.

It would not at all shock me if Hughes pitched to a sub 3.25 ERA with the Twins. He's a good good pitcher and the guy only ever need stability, consistency, and someone who believed in him. He never had any of that in New York unfortunately. It's sad to see the last of that era depart. It's funny to think Cano could leave as well.

I remember the Yankees gave the Diamondbacks a pick of a pool of players as a PTBNL for the Johnson deal and Cano was in there. Crazy stupid the Yankees are. Frustratingly stupid with their kids though they're coming around now to understand he importance of a farm system.

Maybe this change of scenery will be what Hughes needs to get his career back on track

I'd like to see him do well, as frustrating of a pitcher as he was here
 

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Maybe this change of scenery will be what Hughes needs to get his career back on track

I'd like to see him do well, as frustrating of a pitcher as he was here

Really nice guy too. Into memorabilia. Ran into him at a signing (no, seriously) for Bernie Williams. No one recognized who this guy was. He apparently was meeting Bernie after the signing. Sat there and talked to a small group about his collection. He's apparently a really avid collector.

Guess I just revealed a ton of bias there but I'm with you. Hope he does really really well.
 

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Really nice guy too. Into memorabilia. Ran into him at a signing (no, seriously) for Bernie Williams. No one recognized who this guy was. He apparently was meeting Bernie after the signing. Sat there and talked to a small group about his collection. He's apparently a really avid collector.

Guess I just revealed a ton of bias there but I'm with you. Hope he does really really well.

Nah all good, I've never met him but have heard similar stories regarding Phil Hughes the person being good people

I used to be into collecting baseball cards a lot when I was younger and right around the time he first came up to the bigs, he was on a forum or something on beckett.com and responded to somebody who was seeking an autograph of his and made it happen
 

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Nah all good, I've never met him but have heard similar stories regarding Phil Hughes the person being good people

I used to be into collecting baseball cards a lot when I was younger and right around the time he first came up to the bigs, he was on a forum or something on beckett.com and responded to somebody who was seeking an autograph of his and made it happen

That's awesome. I never would have colored him a collector. It was pretty fun to hear a guy basically be a fan playing professionally. It's what drew me to him really.

Good guy in a bad situation. Hope the Yankees really treat the new crop of young talent better than the last. Austin, Heathcott, Williams, Sanchez, Murphy are bats so I'm not too concerned about them. It's the pitching that really will always worry me.
 
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