Boston Bruins ‘22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions.

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bbfan419

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Depends what the return is...

But if it's Frederic to take Reilly, that doesn't feel good.

If it's Reilly+ Frederic for an upgrade on Frederic, then sure.

But considering we are trying to shed cap, almost makes me feel like it's the former.
I am okay if Frederic goes, McLaughlin, Beecher etc can replace him and rather give away him than another top draft pick.
 

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I am okay if Frederic goes, McLaughlin, Beecher etc can replace him and rather give away him than another top draft pick.
While I agree.

Feels like another blunder, spending years developing our own first round pick ONLY to be used to help get rid of a contract our GM signed.

This is probably a polarizing debate, but I'd much rather get rid of Smith than Frederic.

While Smith is better than Frederic, I don't think he's 3x better, and cap space is king, both long term and short.

i.e. Dropping Smith now is the difference between carrying over bonus from one of our other contracts from next your back to this.

I'm open to seeing what the return is, but if it's literally just Frederic tacked on to move Reilly, color me unimpressed.
 

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While I agree.

Feels like another blunder, spending years developing our own first round pick ONLY to be used to help get rid of a contract our GM signed.

This is probably a polarizing debate, but I'd much rather get rid of Smith than Frederic.

While Smith is better than Frederic, I don't think he's 3x better, and cap space is king, both long term and short.

i.e. Dropping Smith now is the difference between carrying over bonus from one of our other contracts from next your back to this.

I'm open to seeing what the return is, but if it's literally just Frederic tacked on to move Reilly, color me unimpressed.
I hear ya, but the mistake was at the draft taking Frederic that spot, anyway I see him as a 4th liner, does not look like someone who will score much. I think If Freddy goes with Reilly, we may get something decent back, maybe a 3rd rd pick.
 

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Here's a stupid question.....

Why is it that all of the major media outlets (ESPN, NHL.com etc.) continue to show Craig Smith, Trent Frederic, Jakub Lauko as Centermen when I can't recall any of them ever playing that position in Boston? Also, they show Nosek as a LW. I can see the Nosek designation somewhat, because he's played that position occasionally, but the other 3?

According to these sites, we are carrying 7 Cs, 6 LWs and 1 RW. Anyone have any idea what the rationale is on how these guys get categorized? Its not just Boston either. Its other teams as well.

I swear, the NHL is the only professional league where player positions are just so random.
 
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If Reilly is who they choose to move then so be it, but the idea of Zboril potentially playing meaningful minutes in the playoffs is downright frightening
By March we could be talking Lohrei or a guy who they aquire via trade to serve as the #7 or someone from Providence who improves over the next 4 months.
 

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Looking at the Ducks defense and wow...Vaak and Drysdale on IR. You may have maybe four NHL caliber defenseman active and three of them are UFA's. You know Klingberg is going to go out of the bunch at the TDL...over 14 mil in cap space.

History working out deals with the Ducks.

My best guess for Reilly's destination
 

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I hear ya, but the mistake was at the draft taking Frederic that spot, anyway I see him as a 4th liner, does not look like someone who will score much. I think If Freddy goes with Reilly, we may get something decent back, maybe a 3rd rd pick.
If the reward for that is a 3rd, again that's pretty awful return on what was originally a first round pick.

I agree maybe he wasn't the guy to pick there.

But at least he's paid what he's worth for his role.

Smith is paid 3M, and outside of one goal in the playoffs, fairly forgettable.

Again cap space is worth more than the 3rd, that honestly doesn't feel that great of a return.

Looking at the Ducks defense and wow...Vaak and Drysdale on IR. You may have maybe four NHL caliber defenseman active and three of them are UFA's. You know Klingberg is going to go out of the bunch at the TDL...over 14 mil in cap space.

History working out deals with the Ducks.

My best guess for Reilly's destination
And a history of Sweeney giving the ducks a bunch of our stuff to take our mistakes.

Sounds like the same old Sweeney special.

Pay Anaheim to take our mistakes.
 
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Here's a stupid question.....

Why is it that all of the major media outlets (ESPN, NHL.com etc.) continue to show Craig Smith, Trent Frederic, Jakub Lauko as Centermen when I can't recall any of them ever playing that position in Boston? Also, they show Nosek as a LW. I can see the Nosek designation somewhat, because he's played that position occasionally, but the other 3?

According to these sites, we are carrying 7 Cs, 6 LWs and 1 RW. Anyone have any idea what the rationale is on how these guys get categorized? Its not just Boston either. Its other teams as well.

I swear, the NHL is the only professional league where player positions are just so random.
TF has had some meaningful time at center, but the others have not. On their gamecast nhl.com constantly switches centers with wingers-usually left wings.
 

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If the reward for that is a 3rd, again that's pretty awful return on what was originally a first round pick.

I agree maybe he wasn't the guy to pick there.

But at least he's paid what he's worth for his role.

Smith is paid 3M, and outside of one goal in the playoffs, fairly forgettable.

Again cap space is worth more than the 3rd, that honestly doesn't feel that great of a return.


And a history of Sweeney giving the ducks a bunch of our stuff to take our mistakes.

Sounds like the same old Sweeney special.

Pay Anaheim to take our mistakes.
Yeah we really got screwed in that Lindholm trade..........
 
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Here's a stupid question.....

Why is it that all of the major media outlets (ESPN, NHL.com etc.) continue to show Craig Smith, Trent Frederic, Jakub Lauko as Centermen when I can't recall any of them ever playing that position in Boston? Also, they show Nosek as a LW. I can see the Nosek designation somewhat, because he's played that position occasionally, but the other 3?

According to these sites, we are carrying 7 Cs, 6 LWs and 1 RW. Anyone have any idea what the rationale is on how these guys get categorized? Its not just Boston either. Its other teams as well.

I swear, the NHL is the only professional league where player positions are just so random.
This is why people early off-season wanted Filip Forsberg as a center. He’s taken like 90 face offs in his career lol.

Crossing my fingers poitras is the next big thing and is our future star center for years. I like his progression so far. 12 points in 12 games guelph storm.
And two suspensions for slewfoots (slewfeet?).
 

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Looking at the Ducks defense and wow...Vaak and Drysdale on IR. You may have maybe four NHL caliber defenseman active and three of them are UFA's. You know Klingberg is going to go out of the bunch at the TDL...over 14 mil in cap space.

History working out deals with the Ducks.

My best guess for Reilly's destination
Why aren't they giving Moore a shot? He's not bad
 
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Carlo being the one dealt is 0%? I figure it's unlikely, but wonder if it's impossible. Like management wanting out from behind the injuries.
 
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Yeah we really got screwed in that Lindholm trade..........
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Lindholm was a good acquisition.

Doesn't mean we didn't pay extra to make Anaheim take our mistakes. (John Moore)

Both things can be true. We acquired a good player. We paid Anaheim to take our mistakes.

My response was to the suggestion of trading Reilly + Frederic for a 3rd. Which would not be worth it. Like I said I'm open to seeing what happens. Just hope it is better than that suggested return.
 
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Crossing my fingers poitras is the next big thing and is our future star center for years. I like his progression so far. 12 points in 12 games guelph storm.
poitras better get his act together with back to back Slowfoot p
Crossing my fingers poitras is the next big thing and is our future star center for years. I like his progression so far. 12 points in 12 games guelph storm.
poitras better get his act together with these back to back suspension

The Bruins will be making a trade soon wonder who going just hope we keep our Dirst
 
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Lindholm was a good acquisition.

Doesn't mean we didn't pay extra to make Anaheim take our mistakes. (John Moore)

Both things can be true. We acquired a good player. We paid Anaheim to take our mistakes.

My response was to the suggestion of trading Reilly + Frederic for a 3rd. Which would not be worth it. Like I said I'm open to seeing what happens. Just hope it is better than that suggested return.
Look at it this way.....Reilly + Frederick for a 3rd.....and McAvoy. Without moving someone out, there is no McAvoy. Would you rather keep Reilly (in Prov) , Frederick (healthy scratch) or have 3rd and McAvoy....
 
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Look at it this way.....Reilly + Frederick for a 3rd.....and McAvoy. Without moving someone out, there is no McAvoy. Would you rather keep Reilly (in Prov) , Frederick (healthy scratch) or have 3rd and McAvoy....
I get what your are saying and IF that's the only offer, then I guess that'll have to be it. I still think we can do better. And I think Frederic at 1M is more valuable on this team than Smith at 3M.

I was suggesting moving Smith and/or Reilly. More cap space, better return. While Smith > Frederic, I don't think Smith is 3x better than Frederic, and he's the guy I'd move first. Probably get a better return, too. As well as cap space.

Move Smith = More cap space, better return (hopefully)

McAvoy is coming back regardless, and like I said, Sweeney special, paying someone to fix his mistakes was my point. Verbeek has been that guy, which seems like the easiest path. Reilly looks to be that mistake at the moment, it's just the + that's getting attached, better be getting space, or something better than a 3rd. IMO.

Whomever it's gonna be, someone is going out.
 
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I get what your are saying and IF that's the only offer, then I guess that'll have to be it. I still think we can do better. And I think Frederic at 1M is more valuable on this team than Smith at 3M.

I was suggesting moving Smith and/or Reilly. More cap space, better return. While Smith > Frederic, I don't think Smith is 3x better than Frederic, and he's the guy I'd move first. Probably get a better return, too. As well as cap space.

Move Smith = More cap space, better return (hopefully)

McAvoy is coming back regardless, and like I said, Sweeney special, paying someone to fix his mistakes was my point. Verbeek has been that guy, which seems like the easiest path. Reilly looks to be that mistake at the moment, it's just the + that's getting attached, better be getting space, or something better than a 3rd. IMO.

Whomever it's gonna be, someone is going out.
I have no clue what the return on Smith would be....he has not been productive for awhile....maybe someone hopes a change of scenery will get him going
I'm good with moving Smith and Reilly....Our D depth looks decent, F not so much.....but can't do much worse than what Frederick and Smith are doing right now.
 

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I have no clue what the return on Smith would be....he has not been productive for awhile....maybe someone hopes a change of scenery will get him going
I'm good with moving Smith and Reilly....Our D depth looks decent, F not so much.....but can't do much worse than what Frederick and Smith are doing right now.
I have no idea what the return on any of them would be at this point.

But McAvoy's back soon, so something is gonna happen one way or another.

Just hope it's a positive move either way.
 

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Look at it this way.....Reilly + Frederick for a 3rd.....and McAvoy. Without moving someone out, there is no McAvoy. Would you rather keep Reilly (in Prov) , Frederick (healthy scratch) or have 3rd and McAvoy....
That’s not the worst case though. Worst case is you waive Smith, not that you have no McAvoy.
 
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