Zegras vs Suzuki

[Gliff]

Overrated with how much talk there is in the media/forums about a 2nd line player who plays a 1 dimensional game.

Half the “talk” is how overrated he is lol.

Look at this poll and posts to go against what you are saying.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Zegras AINEC

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

We talking about Zegras or Suzuki ? Neither one defends all that well so yah ..

Suzuki is the next Bergeron….

Scratch that the current Bergeron

 

[weaponomega]

Tough choice. A good kid on a hated team or a hated player on a team I've always liked.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Habs fan voting Zegras but it's close.

Suzuki is the next Bergeron….

Scratch that the current Bergeron

Suzuki is so overrated defensively by Habs fans it's not even funny. He's fine on 5v5 but he's a tire fire on the PK. He's got a long way to go to even catch Plekanec. (speaking purely defensively, he's surpassed Plekanec offensively already)

 

[DaPhazz]

Are you still mad about people thinking Hutson won’t live up to the hype ?

Mad? Hum no.

I just have a thing for manipulative bigots who are artists at changing narratives.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Mad? Hum no.

I just have a thing for manipulative bigots who are artists at changing narratives.

Bigot? Really ? Maybe I missed a comment ..

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Mad? Hum no.

I just have a thing for manipulative bigots who are artists at changing narratives.

Haha I think you’re taking things too serious…. Bigot huh nice choice of words

 

[Mrb1p]

Habs fan voting Zegras but it's close.



Suzuki is so overrated defensively by Habs fans it's not even funny. He's fine on 5v5 but he's a tire fire on the PK. He's got a long way to go to even catch Plekanec. (speaking purely defensively, he's surpassed Plekanec offensively already)

Stive that tshirt starting to get to your brain

Plekanec was one of the best defensive player of his era, its not really a fair standard. When we talk about defensive ability nobody cares about PK, its ES that matters.

 

[HanSolo]

Stive that tshirt starting to get to your brain

Plekanec was one of the best defensive player of his era, its not really a fair standard. When we talk about defensive ability nobody cares about PK, its ES that matters.

Lmao what? Defensive ability in shorthanded situations is absolutely a valued quality. I'm not gonna act like ES defending isn't very important but acting like PK defending is irrelevant is downright silly.

 

[Mrb1p]

Lmao what? Defensive ability in shorthanded situations is absolutely a valued quality. I'm not gonna act like ES defending isn't very important but acting like PK defending is irrelevant is downright silly.

It is, but they should be viewed separately. Pk specialist exist because it is an entirely different game and because it is not as valuable as ES play.

 

[beowulf]

at the same age

Zegras put up 61, 65 to Suzukis 41, 41.

I think zegras has the higher potential, right now they are pretty close…. The poll doesn’t really say this year or going forward…. So assuming it’s going forward , zegras pretty comfortably…. This year prob debatable

Got to be fair to Suzuki here, the first season he had 41 in 71 during a season cut short by the start of COVID and the second year of 41 for Suzuki was in the shortened 56 games season which over a full 82 game season would be 60. So not as big of a difference.

 

[beowulf]

It is, but they should be viewed separately. Pk specialist exist because it is an entirely different game and because it is not as valuable as ES play.

What? So being a top notch 2-way center like ohh say Bergeron is not desirable? A center that plays in all situations is not something a team would want?

Suzuki is the next Bergeron….

Scratch that the current Bergeron

I don't know if he can become the next Bergeron but he can become a great 2-way center that plays in all situations who during his best years might even get his share of Selke votes.

 

[Favster]

You know it's a good poll when people are arguing as much as this lol. Well done.

2 good players, really comes down to preference in style.

 

[Mrb1p]

What? So being a top notch 2-way center like ohh say Bergeron is not desirable? A center that plays in all situations is not something a team would want?


I don't know if he can become the next Bergeron but he can become a great 2-way center that plays in all situations who during his best years might even get his share of Selke votes.

I have no idea how you understood that from my post, absolutely none.

You know it's a good poll when people are arguing as much as this lol. Well done.

2 good players, really comes down to preference in style.

Its only good because of the anti habs bias

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

What? So being a top notch 2-way center like ohh say Bergeron is not desirable? A center that plays in all situations is not something a team would want?


I don't know if he can become the next Bergeron but he can become a great 2-way center that plays in all situations who during his best years might even get his share of Selke votes.

What has he shown so far defensively to be even in the same book let alone sentence as Bergeron ? He’s an average to below average center defensively. If he has that upside so do like 100 other current players . He’s nothing special at all . I stand behind my vanilla comment . Decent at a bunch of stuff , master of none.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Its only good because of the anti habs bias

Lol it’s only close cause there are much more habs fans than ducks fan

 

[Mrb1p]

Lol it’s only close cause there are much more habs fans than ducks fan

Because theres more habs haters than habs fan, actually.

 

[DaPhazz]

Haha I think you’re taking things too serious…. Bigot huh nice choice of words

A rich and precise vocabulary is an asset

 

[DaPhazz]

Bigot? Really ? Maybe I missed a comment ..

I mean, it's the dude second job (if he has one to begin with) to pollute threads involving the habs organization or fanbase. Totally fitting, in a dramatic way I can agree

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I mean, it's the dude second job (if he has one to begin with) to pollute threads involving the habs organization or fanbase. Totally fitting, in a dramatic way I can agree

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it’s actually my first job… please stop making things up

 

[Bouboumaster]

Right now, Suzuki

Future, could be Zegras

 

[biturbo19]

I'd take Zegras. But it's close. It's really just a matter of that extra offensive upside. Suzuki is the much better two-way player and has a pretty high level of offensive ability himself...it's just that Zegras teases at the sort of skill level that could make him one of the league's premiere offensive talents if he can get a bit stronger and refine his all-around game more to take advantage. Even if that's ultimately on the wing.

 

[Xspyrit]

Did you find Bergeron to be vanilla?

Wait, are Habs fans still comparing Suzuki to Bergeron?

Damn. Was it JC Lajoie who first made this loony comp?

 

[DaPhazz]

Wait, are Habs fans still comparing Suzuki to Bergeron?

Damn. Was it JC Lajoie who first made this loony comp?

No one said that, Read again.

Style of play is discussed.