Rumor: Zach Hyman is signing in Edmonton - Done deal per James Mirtle

[The90]

Dubas has all of the leverage.

We own the player's rights and the opportunity cost for TOR is the loss of a ~4th-6th round pick. For EDM, not getting the 8th year at a lower AAV is poor optics and a bungled cap situation. 500k-1m might not seem like a lot, but Holland already admitted that they will be doing at least 1 buyout soon because they desperately need the cap room to fill out more holes than they have money for. The contract will immediately look bad even at 5m over 8 years, let alone close to 6m if they can't buy that 8th year.

Dubas should absolutely ask for a 2nd rounder and not settle for less than a 4th-5th. Other teams hold a gun to TOR's head when it comes to the cap so they should reciprocate.

You’re high as a kite if you think that little cap space is worth a second rounder. Take your blinders off. 6-7 is all they’re getting, if they get anything at all. Because that’s literally all it’s worth

 

[ShaneFalco]

But he wasn't cross checked in the face.

He embarrassed himself.

Just sayin noone is coming to protect you. How many times have we seen JT repeatedly cross checked and... nothing. That's not a team. Your captain is taking a beating you answer. But I guess the Leafs pp is their toughness

 

[Knies iT]

You’re high as a kite if you think that little cap space is worth a second rounder. Take your blinders off. 6-7 is all they’re getting, if they get anything at all. Because that’s literally all it’s worth

You ok? Read the post slowly.

Negotiations start with a high ask. He should ask for a 2nd rounder (as is rumoured) and "not settle for less than a 4th-5th".

 

[The90]

You ok? Read the post slowly.

Negotiations start with a high ask. He should ask for a 2nd rounder (as is rumoured) and "not settle for less than a 4th-5th".

You can put whatever cute bow on it that you want bud. You end up in the same place because that’s all it’s worth

 

[kb]

You’re high as a kite if you think that little cap space is worth a second rounder. Take your blinders off. 6-7 is all they’re getting, if they get anything at all. Because that’s literally all it’s worth

So being allowed to negotiate early for one of the better free agents right along with a favour of an 8th year to bring the AAV down is only worth a 6th?

Joel Edmundson returned a 5th without negotiation rights.

Might want to try again.....

 

[Knies iT]

You can put whatever cute bow on it that you want bud. You end up in the same place because that’s all it’s worth

So negotiations and leverage are irrelevant. Gotcha.

 

[Smif]

Edmonton just added a third so who knows...

 

[hamzarocks]

Want either Tyler Benson or Pick 90. Would pay signing bonus in year 1 to get either assets

 

[The Masters]

Are we getting anything in return for Hyman ?

 

[On-the-Fly]

Edmonton just added a third so who knows...

Makes things a bit more interesting.

 

[mikeyz]

Are we getting anything in return for Hyman ?

Only if Hyman signs for 8 years wherever he goes.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

He choose to leave. Good riddance, don’t let the door hit you on the way out Hyman .

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I would rather no compensation and let Edmonton get taken down on the cap hit more. 4 th round picks are dime a dozen.

 

[Brobust]

Want either Tyler Benson or Pick 90. Would pay signing bonus in year 1 to get either assets

SB is actual cash so the return would be something like a 1st.

I hope Toronto does offer though.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

He choose to leave. Good riddance, don’t let the door hit you on the way out Hyman

 

[ULF_55]

Edmonton just added a third so who knows...

traded back for the pick.

 

[The90]

So being allowed to negotiate early for one of the better free agents right along with a favour of an 8th year to bring the AAV down is only worth a 6th?

Joel Edmundson returned a 5th without negotiation rights.

Might want to try again.....

I’m good. Guess we’ll find out huh

 

[hockeywiz542]

What's next for Eichel, Sabres? Where do talks stand between Leafs, Oilers for Hyman? - TSN.ca

Is there a scenario where Jack Eichel isn't moved and has to return to the Sabres? Where do the Canadiens and Jets stand on the trade market? TSN Hockey Insiders Pierre LeBrun and Darren Dreger discuss these topics and discuss the latest on Zach Hyman and the work that needs to get done between the Maple Leafs and Oilers.

 

[Stonehands1990]

You’re high as a kite if you think that little cap space is worth a second rounder. Take your blinders off. 6-7 is all they’re getting, if they get anything at all. Because that’s literally all it’s worth

If you read his post carefully his strategy is set the price high and then come down to something half way. And that’s bang on how I’d handle it.

 

[Antropovsky]

So being allowed to negotiate early for one of the better free agents right along with a favour of an 8th year to bring the AAV down is only worth a 6th?

Joel Edmundson returned a 5th without negotiation rights.

Might want to try again.....

Yea... maybe dubas should have waited and tried to acquire a pick for exclusive negotiating rights, instead of granting it for free.

His reasoning was he wanted Hyman to make a decision early so he knows if he should be active in free agency.

This tactic seemed to help everyone else more than the leafs, especially Hyman and might have put the leafs at a disadvantage. Hyman gets first dibs on all the teams with ample space and nobody else to compete with, no fear of losing out either... he could check the market early and if things don't go well, come back to the Leafs.

Seems really silly to me... unless the leafs land a 3rd for the 8th year.

 

[trellaine201]

Tyler Benson?? Huge disappointment. He was so promising. Injuries really hurt him in Jr and never recovered. AHL fodder for life.

 

[Havoc]

I would rather no compensation and let Edmonton get taken down on the cap hit more. 4 th round picks are dime a dozen.

This.

Hold out for the 2nd (wishful) or 3rd and just take nothing if you don't get it. We don't get the next Bobylev, they don't get the 8th year. Boo hoo .

It seems this is what they're on track to do anyways

 

[paulhiggins]

Yea... maybe dubas should have waited and tried to acquire a pick for exclusive negotiating rights, instead of granting it for free.

His reasoning was he wanted Hyman to make a decision early so he knows if he should be active in free agency.

This tactic seemed to help everyone else more than the leafs, especially Hyman and might have put the leafs at a disadvantage. Hyman gets first dibs on all the teams with ample space and nobody else to compete with, no fear of losing out either... he could check the market early and if things don't go well, come back to the Leafs.

Seems really silly to me... unless the leafs land a 3rd for the 8th year.

Not silly, it's stupid. We need a real GM, not someone who sells low and buys high.

 

[Bellefour20]

From what I understand, Zack's family is loaded. Why does he need to chase the money all they way to a shithole like Edmonton? If he loves the Leafs, he would find a way to stay. Not saying he doesn't deserve to get the contract he has earned here and Dubas isn't to blame for that, but I'd assume he would stay if he wanted, and isn't in it for the money. Unless I'm wrong about that.

 

[binop7]

From what I understand, Zack's family is loaded. Why does he need to chase the money all they way to a shithole like Edmonton? If he loves the Leafs, he would find a way to stay. Not saying he doesn't deserve to get the contract he has earned here and Dubas isn't to blame for that, but I'd assume he would stay if he wanted, and isn't in it for the money. Unless I'm wrong about that.

40M is 40M. Let the man secure his future. Maybe he doesn't want to mooch off his family.