News Article: Zach Bogosian - Signs with Tampa
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old kummelweck
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I'm sort of on the 'I don't really care what happens' side of the issue. It's highly unlikely they'll use the $5m cap for anything consequential like trading for a #2 center (Trocheck anyone?).
So.... weeks/months ago, Botts could've taken this same approach and gained all that cap space?
@dotcommunism ?
The Botts argument would be that they needed the full cap space to add Frolik...
The real argument today is, why didn't he just waive Bogo, unconditional waivers, making him free to sign elsewhere, and clearing all the cap space that way. Then he could've held on to Scandella to get a 2nd at the deadline, while still having the cap space to waste on Frolik
He's the worst GM in history... he's epic blunders are of the Milbury variety, but he's also got like 2 dozen moves on the margins that all look stupid as f***.
SundherDome
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You waited this long, why not wait a few more days to see if someone gets desperate or an injury happens over the next few days. f*** I hate Botts, hate.
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No one is giving up assets to acquire Bogo, even at 50% retained.
Especially after someone paid top dollar for Andy Greene...
SundherDome
Y'all have to much power
If that's true, waive him Sunday. If someone loses a guy for a few weeks in the race, maybe they get desperate and move a 7th.
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Somehow enticing the Leafs to add Bogo to their team is Corleone level conniving. Destroy your rival from the inside.
It really is amazing how some players can sustain their careers through draft status for so long. I guess Bogo has had the what if he’s healthy factor going for him forever too.
It really is amazing how some players can sustain their careers through draft status for so long. I guess Bogo has had the what if he’s healthy factor going for him forever too.
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I am not defending Botts anymore but there was no 2nd to be had. The only reason the Blues panicked and gave that up is totally because of Bouwmeesters incident. And at the time of the Scandella trade I dont think we even had the ability to retain 2 mil.
We had the ability to retain.... unfortunately the dope at the helm wanted to add Frolik at full price, and he wanted to pay to do it.
old kummelweck
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Prices are high, but it's encouraging that we are seeing contracts moved and not just pending UFA rentals. While I don't want Botterill to buy when prices are high, I also don't want them to let the right player go to another team because it's a sellers market. Can't be penny wise/pound foolish if your 2020 first rounder+ lands you a top 6 forward.
That was my point yesterday: same point you made above that they could’ve done this instead of trading Scandella when they did. There’s just so little forethought over there.
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Reminder Bogo asked for a trade request back in December. Did he just call one GM a day to get the idea on if they would take him? By December 15th he should've known where Bogo's value stood.
And they could see his play on the ice. He could have sent him down then, forced Bogo’s hand to either report or sit, and had cap relief of one degree or another earlier.
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It's amazing when you get over all the Mike Milbury stuff he did... and you begin to realize literally every move has some level of stupidity attached to it.
Remember when there was a condition in the Sheary, Hunwick trade.... that if we traded Hunwick before 2019 we had to give them a 3rd round pick.... like, how does that condition even end up in a trade? It's almost as if Rutherford was making a joke, "hey... if you're actually able to turn this garbage in to something of value... you owe me a royalty for teaching you how to manage a roster".... and Botts was like, "ok, how about a conditional 3rd boss?"
Its remarkable that Botts always seems to have conditional draft picks in his trade....but never ones in our favor.
JThorne
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Andy Greene has a not so secret admirer though. All it takes is one. Bogosian apparently has... Botterill?
old kummelweck
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And? Own the f*** up to him being a shitty player and move him off the roster. He cost them games. COST THEM GAMES. I don’t care if he is tucking Jack in at night and tying his skate laces, run the team.
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Could they have even put Bogo on unconditional waivers the first time?
I thought that was used for contract termination - a buyout or breach of contract.
Would Bogosian have had to agreed to a mutual termination or left the Sabres so he was in breach of contract (like Berglund did) to use unconditional waivers the 1st time, or no?
I thought that was used for contract termination - a buyout or breach of contract.
Would Bogosian have had to agreed to a mutual termination or left the Sabres so he was in breach of contract (like Berglund did) to use unconditional waivers the 1st time, or no?
