Shane Diesel
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Getting swept by Boston in the first round? Priceless.
Value of: Yzerplan put 18.1 million to Holl, Gostisbehere, Reimer, Compher, Sprong and Kostin
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GoBoltz56
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They have 2 regulation losses, both to Detroit. And are last year's playoff results such a distant memory for Boston fans??
Pavels Dog
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Yeah I’m not buying that one.
Number 6 D are minimum salary.
Not sure why Yzerman should be above criticism for some of his bad moves.
He’s made some good ones but as has been noted he’s made some poor ones too.
Pavels Dog
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What if I told you 6D are normally minimum salary because teams can't afford to pay for anything better?
Still not buying it.
Cap space has value no matter how much people try to spin it otherwise.
The Red Line
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Aww someone's mad the Wings are doing well...
Pavels Dog
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Yes, the value is being able to use it. That value is also why Detroit is one of the few teams in the conversation for adding Kane, or being able to acquire a Lindholm, Nylander or other big name if they become available.
The Red Line
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Yes but the team has plenty of cap space and no cap issues in the foreseeable future. The player is playing well and the cap hit is a non-issue. You want it to be a terrible signing, but it clearly isn't.
It’s a bad signing for a number 6 D at two years. We will have to agree to disagree.
The Red Line
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So the team would be better off with a worse player in that spot instead at 900k for a little bit of extra cap space that they don't need? He's playing well, and the team is playing well which is all that matters. The cap hit doesn't affect their ability to sign more players.
A bad signing would be for a player who is playing poorly, not for one that is playing well.
deca guard
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let us know how could yzerman have better spent that money in effort to get this team on a roll towards being respectable as that time has arrived ? let me answer that = he got the best ufa dman that would sign on , as opposed to not spending that cap and having a lesser team bound for another season of struggle . he got his big bodied long reach zone clogging dman of his type system , now he - peaches - chariot are vets to teach the edvinssons-gibsons-clevelands-wallinders-etc . yzermans play was to improve this season plus set up a rookie classroom , as opposed to not spending the cap space and say saving it to spend on a cap dump trade to add a draft pick . the choice was get better for now instead of gaining a pick . it dont matter if holl is over paid that cap space isnt important right now , and every gm ends up having to over pay eventually for players that are needed at the time . and next season a bunch of vets go ufa which add the needed cap to sign seider n raymond so holls cap hit not a problem
Like I said agree to disagree. A bad contract is a bad contract.
Are we still bringing this up?
Yes, I'd say Yzerman overpaid for these guys on the whole, but if the team is improved, good for the Wings. Stats (even advanced stats) don't show the whole story anyway.
Yes, I'd say Yzerman overpaid for these guys on the whole, but if the team is improved, good for the Wings. Stats (even advanced stats) don't show the whole story anyway.
Pavels Dog
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Actually the saying goes "a bad player is a bad player even if they make minimum salary but an overpaid player can still be good in the right role if the team can afford it".
GarlicbreadTB
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And all of that combined with what the other guy posted shows that they were signed for exactly what they were meant to and right in line with their salaries.
So what’s your point?
And the Wings have a ton of cap space so why not use it for someone better rather than using a useless minimum salary #6D?
How many teams actually even have a minim salary #6D? I’m seeing very few
bleedgreen
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I think Yzerplan makes total sense and they’re doing a good job. Holl at his price and performance level has been great. Orlov is a third pair guy for the Canes making 7+. He doesn’t even get pp time right now.
Some people just want to criticize for the sake of criticizing. Some people are just against Detroit or Yzerman in general so they just bag on them no matter what. This year has been a clear step forward imo. Copp and Compher are very good fits especially imo.
Pavels Dog
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The exact same number as the fanbases wishing their team could improve their #6D, coincidentally.
I’m not against Detroit or Yzerman. I’m just not sure why some people feel he should be above criticism when he makes bad moves.
Treat him like any other GM.
