Mister Ed
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Getting higher picks ususally gets you higher talent, that's how the draft works 99% of the time.
Value of: Yzerplan put 18.1 million to Holl, Gostisbehere, Reimer, Compher, Sprong and Kostin
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Getting higher picks ususally gets you higher talent, that's how the draft works 99% of the time.
Top 10 picks should get you a good team. Don't blame the lottery.
MTL Dirty Birdy
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Curious- what’s their prospect pipeline looking like? I know Yzerman believes in development in the minors
Using Buffalo as an example is hilarious. Sabres have the longest playoff drought in the league and have missed the playoffs for nearly double the length Detroit has missed.
Tufted Titmouse
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lol dude you got gifted Eichel, Dahlin and Power. Cmon. Talking shit about other rebuilds when you haven't made the playoffs despite 3 1st overall picks (including 1 that you traded and watched them win a Cup and almost a Smythe) feels like "throwing rocks from glass houses" territory.
At least make the playoffs before you bury an org that finished only 4 spots behind you this year.
Rebuilds. Sabres have had quite a few in that span. whether they work out or not is not relevant to the conversation. Detroit according to their GM is STILL rebuilding somehow.
Gifted is a stretch. Did you know we never won the lottery and moved up? Eichel was 2nd to McDavid we lost that lottery. You passed on Hughes to draft Zadina. Yzerman screwed up and is trying to cover his butt.
toddkaz
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What a horrible take. This person doesn't even know who plays for Detroit.
Tufted Titmouse
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I am not a Wings fan, I just think you dunking on their build is a bit silly.
Dahlin and Power were both layups. Eichel was also a layup. There was no crafty GMing there, those players were all consensus.
I really like Buffalos drafting and rebuilding, but how different would it look without those layups?
Like I said, Buffalo hasn't really reached a point where they should be looking down on other rebuilds. There is a lot of potential, but it needs to become playoff runs for it to mean anything.
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Holland drafted Zadina, but thanks for playing.
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Well over a decade since your team has made the playoffs and you're in here talking about your rebuild being complete.
Tufted Titmouse
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I am not going to let one bad Buffalo poster impact my opinion of the rest of them but god damn it's cringey to see that kind of snobbery from potentially the worst run organization of the 2000's.
If that doesn't give you humility, nothing will!
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Yeah won 3 lotteries too. Forget this part ... then traded away stanley cup champ for alot of good pieces. Still haven't made the playoffs so i dunno what your point is.
Hes 13 leave him alone.
Snob? I never even said the Sabres were good. I said their rebuild was done. Detroit's was supposed to be done last year when they brought in multiple players last year to try and make playoffs. Yet Yzerman says still rebuilding.
Buffalo has had a top 10 pick in the draft every year from 2013-2022 and still hasn't made the playoffs. They've had two 1st overalls and two 2nd overalls during that time. Detroit's highest pick was #4. How many top 10 picks should it take to "get you a good team?"
Buffalo is just now finally looking like you are a playoff team with a playoff drought that's the longest in the NHL. Your final breakthrough in potentially being a playoff team also just so happens to coincide with getting multiple #1 overall picks and the assets you received from trading one of the former #2 picks you had.
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The Sabres have also had a top 10 pick in ten of the last eleven drafts, with two first overalls and two second overalls.
Maybe you just need another top 10 pick before you finally make the playoffs.
And I have 0 issue admitting how inept our organization was all this time.
Fatass
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I remember watching a post season presser where Yzerman took all responsibility for trading away some top guys causing the club to nose dive. Clearly he’s got a plan that includes getting elite players and he needs high draft picks to find them.
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I'd hope it's time to start winning by now, it's one thing to say it's time to win and actually win, though.
WaW
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I guess I'm just not really wired this way, but I'll always find it bizarre how such a core part of being a hockey fan and enjoying hockey for alot of people is trying to make fans of other struggling teams eternally miserable and hoping that they stop enjoying hockey.
I mean it absolutely happens to every fan base from every other fanbase, I'm not pointing any fingers specifically
Maybe I'm principal skinner in that meme, but holy hell is it ever weird. Anyhoo, I don't care that much on a personal level if a random fan of a different team needs to cope about their own fandom by telling me that my team is shit and that I should be miserable about it (lol!), just an observation.
I mean it absolutely happens to every fan base from every other fanbase, I'm not pointing any fingers specifically
Maybe I'm principal skinner in that meme, but holy hell is it ever weird. Anyhoo, I don't care that much on a personal level if a random fan of a different team needs to cope about their own fandom by telling me that my team is shit and that I should be miserable about it (lol!), just an observation.
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Shaman464
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Can’t blame Yzerman for Holland’s draft failures. You can argue that Yzerman failed in his development of Zadina, but even that would he hard because he was already playing in the NHL the year prior to Yzerman becoming GM.
TCNorthstars
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Can you actually find me 1 person who said Detroit was done rebuilding last year? Yzerman has never said that.
