Your views on Dallas Eakins so far - Part II

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MacT might think that the main issue was goaltending. Starting the year 4-15-2 and being out of the race at the quarter season mark derailed everyone's effort. Feels like a long time ago but I seem to remember more of an effort earlier in the year. First game of the season pretty much spelled out the first quarter, 5-4 loss with 4 of the goals being stoppable. Having 5 more wins in the first 20 games (which was doable) would have lead to at least being in some sort of race for the playoffs which you would have to hope leads to more effort. Maybe MacT blames the entire season on Dubnyk rather than Eakins.

Either that or he's putting up a face to make the players think that Eakins isn't going anywhere to see if that will change their effort level.

 

[nexttothemoon]

30 30 29 24 29. Classic. 5 year plan.

Tambo ****ed up badly when he allowed the team to rise up above bottom 2 last season... MacT brought in to restore the team to it's rightful place.

#EyesOnThePrize

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

but they are not soft. and a better mix of size, tenacity and vets, like Pacoretti, Gallagher and Gionta.

small + soft + young + Eakins + Lowe +____ +____ = 29th place. Sure, Eakins can be questioned, but until the top 6 is modified and D improves, it will be difficult to gauge how much the coaching is to blame.

If they end up going 2-10 for the last 12 games (0-3 so far), Eakins might be toast. The ball is in the players hands right now.

Or you know, MTL is coached to their strengths and we're coached to a style that doesn't fit us.

 

[ghostnights]

If Eakins shaved his head, he would look like a freak. It might scare the other team.

 

[DarkSaturn]

Got to be time for the Has Eakins been Fired site, ala the Did Gomez Score site.

 

[Jacques Trap*]

Pretty good head of hair.

 

[Up the Irons]

Or you know, MTL is coached to their strengths and we're coached to a style that doesn't fit us.

yes to the Montreal part, but we don't have any strengths. Our strengths? we have Hall and Peron. that's about it.

hey, I'm trying to be an Eakins apologist or anything. He could very well be the problem. But by calling him the problem, is that to suggest that this group would be good enough to go forward with, with another coach? I'm am not that confident in this group. In fact, I have no confidence in this top 6 as is. Switch out Eberle or Yak for Evander Kane and Gagner+ for Courturier and I would be.

 

[Oi'll say!]

You and I both know if the season was 82 games we'd probably be staring at Seth Jones on our blue line.

Krueger also didn't have the weight of Dubnyk playing like absolute garbage.

And the 1-9 run is exactly why I don't think Krueger is leagues better than Eakins. They had the playoffs in sight and completely went into the tank, where many games they couldn't score more than a single goal.

You're trying to take away the fact that Krueger had them that close to begin with and that the Oilers had to play only western conference teams. And the games they lost last season weren't total yawners like this year. The Oilers' win% under Eakins is actually very flattering when you consider how many games they have been blown out of early. This is by far the worst season ever from an entertainment p.o.v.

Also DD wasn't the only Oiler to be much better last season than this season. The fact that our prospects are de-developing has to be the main concern considering their potential coming in. If the Oil had ten less points in the standings but the kids were all +10 with 70 points we'd be grinning ear to ear. If we traded RNH for another 32 yr old Hendricks type but were sitting in a playoff spot we'd be fuming.

It's so obvious that Eakins has to go it's painful to watch these games. This isn't a Luongo situation where we have to unload his salary on someone, they just have to pull out a rotten tooth and pay the dentist.

 

[Oi'll say!]

Got to be time for the Has Eakins been Fired site, ala the Did Gomez Score site.

It's definitely time for a pool.

I would have picked ten games ago but the Oil went on their goaltending-induced whatever streak that prolonged the agony. Now they have to wait a few games for the "Carry water, don't throw it" incident to go away. End of the season hopefully.

I'll be pissed if they give him another chance with TC and the first 20 games of next season.

 

[jbean]

The Oilers final run here will be interesting.

Anaheim at home
Rangers at home
San Jose away
Anaheim away
Phoenix away
Anaheim home
Colorado home
LA home
Vancouver home

If we lose 7, 8 or even 9 of those games, I still think it's most likely MacT will bring back Eakins. At the very earliest, I see him fired if we are out of the playoff race by December next year. This of course is based off of what MacT himself said, that he had more confidence in Eakins now than when he hired him, but we also know from past experience that MacT can go back on his word on a dime, such as when he gave Krueger his total support and then fired him on skype days later. So there is some hope!

 

[Replacement*]

More and more my sense is dead man walking. While Mact recently reaffirmed Eakins status at the STH lunch could this actually be the death of confirmation that Krueger, Tambo, etc got from this org.

I'm not convinced its a real reaffirmation. I think its the org not wanting more disruption within the season and that Eakins is already gone and in a sense knows this. Its my theory this was decided during the Oly break and that the Oil will make overtures to established vet coaches, perhaps Kevin Dineen who K Lowe and the org would have been chumming with at the Olympics.

Eakins actions, since and just prior to the Olympics have also been increasingly bizarre and to me the actions of a frustrated person that at this point is working out his days almost mocking the organization employing him. I think Eakins knows, he's upset, and is making some light of it and by making the org look even more ridiculous trying to save his stock so that he will be able to attribute his failure to org.

Conjecture, of course, but hopefully I'm correct in some of it. This guy needs to be gone.

 

[Tirefire]

Eakins isnt going anywhere, any conjecture to that end I believe is purely wishful thinking. Eakins will be here all of the 2014/15 Season and at least to the quarter pole of the 2015/16 season and only then will MacT remove him if the Oilers continue to be a dumpster fire, which will be a full 2 1/4 seasons into his 4 year deal. By then this forum will be on Fire Eakins v.XII thread. But I believe MacT is not going to move Eakins out.

I can see him removing all of the assistant coaches and allowing Eakins to pick his own staff this off season.

 

[Replacement*]

Eakins isnt going anywhere, any conjecture to that end I believe is purely wishful thinking. Eakins will be here all of the 2014/15 Season and at least to the quarter pole of the 2015/16 season and only then will MacT remove him if the Oilers continue to be a dumpster fire, which will be a full 2 1/4 seasons into his 4 year deal. By then this forum will be on Fire Eakins v.XII thread. But I believe MacT is not going to move Eakins out.

I can see him removing all of the assistant coaches and allowing Eakins to pick his own staff this off season.

note bolded for pinpoint accuracy.

 

[Philly85*]

I just don't like Eakins, and hope that if, when, our beloved Oilers have success that he's not around.

 

[Up the Irons]

The Oilers final run here will be interesting.

Anaheim at home
Rangers at home
San Jose away
Anaheim away
Phoenix away
Anaheim home
Colorado home
LA home
Vancouver home

If we lose 7, 8 or even 9 of those games, I still think it's most likely MacT will bring back Eakins. At the very earliest, I see him fired if we are out of the playoff race by December next year. This of course is based off of what MacT himself said, that he had more confidence in Eakins now than when he hired him, but we also know from past experience that MacT can go back on his word on a dime, such as when he gave Krueger his total support and then fired him on skype days later. So there is some hope!

If he was really having doubts, he would be smart to skid him right now and give the new guy 9 games to look at what he's got. something the Oilers never do. they always wait till offseason for some reason. it would be extremely disappointing for MacT to waste another season waiting for a coach to develop into what he hoped he was in the first place, which is probably what will happen.

 

[Up the Irons]

More and more my sense is dead man walking. While Mact recently reaffirmed Eakins status at the STH lunch could this actually be the death of confirmation that Krueger, Tambo, etc got from this org.

I'm not convinced its a real reaffirmation. I think its the org not wanting more disruption within the season and that Eakins is already gone and in a sense knows this. Its my theory this was decided during the Oly break and that the Oil will make overtures to established vet coaches, perhaps Kevin Dineen who K Lowe and the org would have been chumming with at the Olympics.

Eakins actions, since and just prior to the Olympics have also been increasingly bizarre and to me the actions of a frustrated person that at this point is working out his days almost mocking the organization employing him. I think Eakins knows, he's upset, and is making some light of it and by making the org look even more ridiculous trying to save his stock so that he will be able to attribute his failure to org.

Conjecture, of course, but hopefully I'm correct in some of it. This guy needs to be gone.

like I just said, keeping a guy that you know you are firing, and not allowing the next guy to evaluate his lineup for the remaining games is just plain stupid. So, I guess that explains why the Oilers may be doing that.

or Eakins isn't going anywhere.

 

[gqmixmaster]

They want to keep Eakins on next year so we can get McDavid, then the Oilers will finally hire a real coach

 

[Da McBomb]

They want to keep Eakins on next year so we can get McDavid, then the Oilers will finally hire a real coach

With Scrivens and Fasth around for a full season next year, I don't see us being in McDavid territory. But then again, this is the Oilers we're talking about.

Whether Eakins is back next year or not, I really really really really hope this is the summer we finally let Buchberger and Smith go and get some new Assistants in here.

 

[CornKicker]

Or you know, MTL is coached to their strengths and we're coached to a style that doesn't fit us.

exactly,


i have 3 matches, a litre of gas, some toilet paper and a whole load of fire wood....

Eakins - lets build a dam in this river, pass me the wood, and the matches and the toilet paper



why not just light a fire dude?

 

[Tirefire]

note bolded for pinpoint accuracy.

Yes, that as well.

 

[Tirefire]

exactly,


i have 3 matches, a litre of gas, some toilet paper and a whole load of fire wood....

Eakins - lets build a dam in this river, pass me the wood, and the matches and the toilet paper



why not just light a fire dude?

Note my avatar, the pictorial disquisition of this years Oiler's season, management and future expectations.

I will bring the hot dogs, buns and condiments.

 

[shoop]

I can see him removing all of the assistant coaches and allowing Eakins to pick his own staff this off season.

Which MacT should have done from the start.

Give Eakins a season with the Scrivens/Fasth combo in net and his own guys as coaches. Add some quality D and then it will be reasonable to put Eakins on the clock.

A sixth coach in seven years makes no sense.

 

[frag2]

More and more my sense is dead man walking. While Mact recently reaffirmed Eakins status at the STH lunch could this actually be the death of confirmation that Krueger, Tambo, etc got from this org.

I'm not convinced its a real reaffirmation. I think its the org not wanting more disruption within the season and that Eakins is already gone and in a sense knows this. Its my theory this was decided during the Oly break and that the Oil will make overtures to established vet coaches, perhaps Kevin Dineen who K Lowe and the org would have been chumming with at the Olympics.

Eakins actions, since and just prior to the Olympics have also been increasingly bizarre and to me the actions of a frustrated person that at this point is working out his days almost mocking the organization employing him. I think Eakins knows, he's upset, and is making some light of it and by making the org look even more ridiculous trying to save his stock so that he will be able to attribute his failure to org.

Conjecture, of course, but hopefully I'm correct in some of it. This guy needs to be gone.

Dineen is now full time Hockey Canada Womens National Team coach I think so not sure if that's even possible.

Closest bets would be Laviolette or anyone fired after the season

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Pretty good head of hair.

fantastic head of hair.

and when he runs for a very very long time he doesn't get as tired as other people might.

 

[gqmixmaster]

fantastic head of hair.

and when he runs for a very very long time he doesn't get as tired as other people might.

plus he was the coach when the oilers won some games this year