Boston Bruins Your roster changes / proposals XI

[Yeti34]

Dvorak for debrusk zboril and a 2nd should do it. Surprised donny cant come something like this. Works for both teams. Darn I should have been a general manager I can fix this team. Book it!

Debrusk’s value is at an all time low
Zboril’s an AHL caliber player right now
A second I’m sure doesn’t move the needle all that much.

I would venture to guess the Yotes are looking for a lot more than that at this point.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they wanted a first or high end prospect in addition to Debrusk.

 

[Blowfish]

Not sure suggesting a McAvoy trade over salary cap is a good hill to die on.

I'm not sure either but it would be considered and a real possibility. Here's hoping McAvoy goes with the recent bruin trend of team friendly contracts.

 

[Dizzay]

I just threw up in m my mouth. Come on.

Debrusk has little trade value at this point.
Studnicka was given a shot to play last year and ended up in the AHL and that was with a very weak bottom 6.
Gryz is a million bucks overpaid on his current deal.
The 1st rounder hurts.

I am fine trying Coyle in the 2C spot and giving him a chance with hopefully Hall and Pasta and putting Smith with Bergy and Marshy.........but we're a stronger team with Coyle on the 3rd line.

 

[bbfan419]

Dvorak + Kessel (50% retained)
Debrusk + Studnicka +Gryz + 1st 2022

too much and don;t want Kessel, if we can get Chychrun somehow I would be for that.

 

[bbfan419]

Debrusk’s value is at an all time low
Zboril’s an AHL caliber player right now
A second I’m sure doesn’t move the needle all that much.

I would venture to guess the Yotes are looking for a lot more than that at this point.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they wanted a first or high end prospect in addition to Debrusk.

Dvorak fills a need for us at C, but he really is overrated on here, sure JDB had a down year, but the 3 years before that were all pretty good and Dvorak has not exactly lit the league on fire, they both have potential and around the same age, to me it is close to a wash with a small add or 2 from our side, Beecher and Ahcan maybe.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I'm not sure either but it would be considered and a real possibility. Here's hoping McAvoy goes with the recent bruin trend of team friendly contracts.

If this regime even considers it, then add another to list of reasons they should be canned. If you’re trading McAvoy while you have Coyle making 5.25M for the next 5 years, that’s a massive yikes.

I really don’t think it’s a consideration or real possibility. The way you’re consistently bringing it up sounds more like something you actually want to happen.

 

[Blowfish]

If this regime even considers it, then add another to list of reasons they should be canned. If you’re trading McAvoy while you have Coyle making 5.25M for the next 5 years, that’s a massive yikes.

I really don’t think it’s a consideration or real possibility. The way you’re consistently bringing it up sounds more like something you actually want to happen.

I don't want to see it happen but at what cost? What's reasonable in your GM shoes?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I don't want to see it happen but at what cost? What's reasonable in your GM shoes?

I want him year max term. He’s a superstar #1 defenseman.

8Y, 74M = 9.25M AAV

I’d take him anywhere from 8-10.5M AAV but I want him signed for 6+ years at these figures.

 

[Blowfish]

I want him year max term. He’s a superstar #1 defenseman.

8Y, 74M = 9.25M AAV

I’d take him anywhere from 8-10.5M AAV but I want him signed for 6+ years at these figures.

IMO reasonable...Let's hope that's the case.

 

[NeelyDan]

I want him year max term. He’s a superstar #1 defenseman.

8Y, 74M = 9.25M AAV

I’d take him anywhere from 8-10.5M AAV but I want him signed for 6+ years at these figures.

this all day

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If this regime even considers it, then add another to list of reasons they should be canned. If you’re trading McAvoy while you have Coyle making 5.25M for the next 5 years, that’s a massive yikes.

I really don’t think it’s a consideration or real possibility. The way you’re consistently bringing it up sounds more like something you actually want to happen.

Lets say McAvoy is a Norris finalist this season (2nd team all-star)

If he (his agent) demands 8 years at $100 million, do you sign him?

 

[Deal Law]

Debrusk’s value is at an all time low
Zboril’s an AHL caliber player right now
A second I’m sure doesn’t move the needle all that much.

I would venture to guess the Yotes are looking for a lot more than that at this point.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they wanted a first or high end prospect in addition to Debrusk.

Absolutely. If JDB, Zboril and a 2nd were sufficient, deal would be done by now. That offer doesn't get it done.

I'm sure Sweeney would insist on JDB as part of the package, so let's all agree on that.

'Yotes probably want a 1st and something like Beecher as well. My counter would be Vaak and a 2nd.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Lets say McAvoy is a Norris finalist this season (2nd team all-star)

If he (his agent) demands 8 years at $100 million, do you sign him?

If he’s demanding that, he doesn’t want to be with Boston. However, if he’s demanding that, was the start higher or is that his starting point? Because if there is mutual agreement for the player to be there, I would assume the player doesn’t usually get what they’re demanding. They usually meet somewhere in the middle.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If he’s demanding that, he doesn’t want to be with Boston. However, if he’s demanding that, was the start higher or is that his starting point? Because if there is mutual agreement for the player to be there, I would assume the player doesn’t usually get what they’re demanding. They usually meet somewhere in the middle.

That's the price.

The next 8 years should be his prime.

If they won't give it to him, someone else will.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

That's the price.

The next 8 years should be his prime.

If they won't give it to him, someone else will.

I don’t know if see McAvoy being tied highest AAV in the league with McDavid which would be 12.5M.

It would be an “overpay” that I wouldn’t be overly concerned with. Overpaying your stars makes more sense than overpaying the rest.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

That's the price.

The next 8 years should be his prime.

If they won't give it to him, someone else will.

You had me at eight years.

Although I am skeptical that it’s $12.5M/yr or bust. I don’t believe that will be the case.

Still, you wouldn’t see me complain.

 

[analyser]

I would go 68 mil for 8 years, average of 8.5. People will say oh this is not enough, but you have to keep the team in mind and not put all your eggs in 1 basket.

If he was looking for 12+ mil per then not for me.

Erik Karlson is way overpaid in my opinion.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I would go 68 mil for 8 years, average of 8.5. People will say oh this is not enough, but you have to keep the team in mind and not put all your eggs in 1 basket.

If he was looking for 12+ mil per then not for me.

Erik Karlson is way overpaid in my opinion.

Youre comparing apples to oranges with Karlsson. He is way overpaid for what he is but he wasn’t worth the contract in the first place. He was never good enough defensively to warrant that contract.

However? McAvoy is a positive factor at both ends of the ice. I overpay for a McAvoy type. If his contract is why you can’t go out and overpay for a Backes? Oh well. Lmao

 

[JOKER 192]

You had me at eight years.

Although I am skeptical that it’s $12.5M/yr or bust. I don’t believe that will be the case.

Still, you wouldn’t see me complain.

That just nuts.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

That just nuts.

You’d trade him instead?

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

I'm predicting 8x9.125m for a symbolic total of $73m

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

You’d trade him instead?

Also, when the cap finally starts going back up, what will 12.5M really look like on the grand scheme of things?

We have been too spoiled with the last group of stars’ contracts.

I don’t see McAvoy at 12.5M to begin with but if it needs to be done, I want a fat EIGHT next to “years”.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

for those who are balking at giving McAvoy 9+ million a year on his next deal, keep in mind that when Chara signed his original UFA deal with the Bruins it was for $7.5m which was over 17% of the cap at the time. If we can get McAvoy for 8 years entering his prime starting at ~11% of the cap that's not unreasonable at all.

 

[JOKER 192]

You’d trade him instead?

That's simply not the number . Top 10 Dmen in the league are all around 9 or less, how does Mac command more? If we take of the Black and Gold glasses we realize there are better Dmen than Mac and they aren't making 12.5M.

No I don't trade, I just don't overpay.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

for those who are balking at giving McAvoy 9+ million a year on his next deal, keep in mind that when Chara signed his original UFA deal with the Bruins it was for $7.5m which was over 17% of the cap at the time. If we can get McAvoy for 8 years entering his prime starting at ~11% of the cap that's not unreasonable at all.

Also may want to look around at what top defensemen are getting right now. Some of them worse than McAvoy on his worst day.