Boston Bruins Your roster changes / proposals XI

[RussellmaniaKW]

People are glossing over the fact that Hall is the Krejci of the line now, not Coyle. Hall is the facilitator and puck carrier....Plus he actually has speed to collapse the defense (unlike krejci).... Have Hall carry the puck with speed into the zone, coyle crash the net.....Hall can then shoot or dish to Smith who should be good for 25 minimum. People forget this is a pace game now and Krejci just wasn't that good before Hall got here.

a Hall-Coyle-Smith line is perfectly fine on paper. It's talented enough to be a 2nd line in the NHL.

The problems with it are this:
1. The Bruins are supposed to be some kind of contender and IMO a real contender should have a better 2nd line
2. It is a regression to back before they got Hall. Now instead of Krejci carrying 2 borderline (or worse) 3rd liners, it'll be Hall having to do it.

Hall with Krejci was what made that one of the most dangerous 2nd lines in the NHL. Now it'll be middle of the pack at best unless Coyle manages to do what he has never really done before and that's consistently play like he did in the 2019 playoffs for a whole 82 game season.

For the record, this is why I would rather see Studnicka get a shot there over Coyle (assuming he looks the part in camp). With Coyle, we know what he is. He's a really high end 3rd line C when he's on his game, but offensively has never consistently produced enough to be a reliable 2nd line C. Studnicka may never been that guy either, but we at least know he has a lot of the raw skills you look for in a 2nd line C so IMO we need to give it a go and see if he can be it.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

a Hall-Coyle-Smith line is perfectly fine on paper. It's talented enough to be a 2nd line in the NHL.

The problems with it are this:
1. The Bruins are supposed to be some kind of contender and IMO a real contender should have a better 2nd line
2. It is a regression to back before they got Hall. Now instead of Krejci carrying 2 borderline (or worse) 3rd liners, it'll be Hall having to do it.

Hall with Krejci was what made that one of the most dangerous 2nd lines in the NHL. Now it'll be middle of the pack at best unless Coyle manages to do what he has never really done before and that's consistently play like he did in the 2019 playoffs for a whole 82 game season.

For the record, this is why I would rather see Studnicka get a shot there over Coyle (assuming he looks the part in camp). With Coyle, we know what he is. He's a really high end 3rd line C when he's on his game, but offensively has never consistently produced enough to be a reliable 2nd line C. Studnicka may never been that guy either, but we at least know he has a lot of the raw skills you look for in a 2nd line C so IMO we need to give it a go and see if he can be it.

This is where I am, too. Should at least see what we have before we package it up and send it away. Obviously Studnicka needs to earn some time there, but he should definitely be given a fair shot at it. Ironic, we did that with defense last year, and the kid that rose above the occasion is no longer here. But I think Studnicka has the highest offensive potential in the 23 and under C group right now, so here's our chance to see if he can handle it.

If he can't, we're in no different place than we were before. And in all honesty, if the team really is 6-10 games of Studnicka from not making the playoffs, this isn't the team that should be giving up futures for fool's runs at the end anyways.

Definitely in the see what we got camp.

 

[BruinsBtn]

a Hall-Coyle-Smith line is perfectly fine on paper. It's talented enough to be a 2nd line in the NHL.

The problems with it are this:
1. The Bruins are supposed to be some kind of contender and IMO a real contender should have a better 2nd line
2. It is a regression to back before they got Hall. Now instead of Krejci carrying 2 borderline (or worse) 3rd liners, it'll be Hall having to do it.

Hall with Krejci was what made that one of the most dangerous 2nd lines in the NHL. Now it'll be middle of the pack at best unless Coyle manages to do what he has never really done before and that's consistently play like he did in the 2019 playoffs for a whole 82 game season.

For the record, this is why I would rather see Studnicka get a shot there over Coyle (assuming he looks the part in camp). With Coyle, we know what he is. He's a really high end 3rd line C when he's on his game, but offensively has never consistently produced enough to be a reliable 2nd line C. Studnicka may never been that guy either, but we at least know he has a lot of the raw skills you look for in a 2nd line C so IMO we need to give it a go and see if he can be it.

That's absolutely right. Everyone is in love with Colorado and their 2nd line is Compher-Kadri-Burakovsky

 

[yazmybaby]

a Hall-Coyle-Smith line is perfectly fine on paper. It's talented enough to be a 2nd line in the NHL.

The problems with it are this:
1. The Bruins are supposed to be some kind of contender and IMO a real contender should have a better 2nd line
2. It is a regression to back before they got Hall. Now instead of Krejci carrying 2 borderline (or worse) 3rd liners, it'll be Hall having to do it.

Hall with Krejci was what made that one of the most dangerous 2nd lines in the NHL. Now it'll be middle of the pack at best unless Coyle manages to do what he has never really done before and that's consistently play like he did in the 2019 playoffs for a whole 82 game season.

For the record, this is why I would rather see Studnicka get a shot there over Coyle (assuming he looks the part in camp). With Coyle, we know what he is. He's a really high end 3rd line C when he's on his game, but offensively has never consistently produced enough to be a reliable 2nd line C. Studnicka may never been that guy either, but we at least know he has a lot of the raw skills you look for in a 2nd line C so IMO we need to give it a go and see if he can be it.

Move Smith to the Bergy line and move Pasty to Halls line and all should be good.
Smith played very well with Bergy and Marchy when given the chance and it makes us a more balanced team, not relying on one line only to score.
Stud should be playing on the third line at best to start the season and earn his spot.
I want him at Center.

 

[The don godfather]

Move Smith to the Bergy line and move Pasty to Halls line and all should be good.
Smith played very well with Bergy and Marchy when given the chance and it makes us a more balanced team, not relying on one line only to score.
Stud should be playing on the third line at best to start the season and earn his spot.
I want him at Center.

Pasta on 2nd and smith on 1st problem solved well balanced attack

 

[Killer B]

Bon Jovi, New Jersey Giants and Jets and Downtown Newark. What's not to like?

You forgot Snooki...

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

a Hall-Coyle-Smith line is perfectly fine on paper. It's talented enough to be a 2nd line in the NHL.

The problems with it are this:
1. The Bruins are supposed to be some kind of contender and IMO a real contender should have a better 2nd line
2. It is a regression to back before they got Hall. Now instead of Krejci carrying 2 borderline (or worse) 3rd liners, it'll be Hall having to do it.

Hall with Krejci was what made that one of the most dangerous 2nd lines in the NHL. Now it'll be middle of the pack at best unless Coyle manages to do what he has never really done before and that's consistently play like he did in the 2019 playoffs for a whole 82 game season.

For the record, this is why I would rather see Studnicka get a shot there over Coyle (assuming he looks the part in camp). With Coyle, we know what he is. He's a really high end 3rd line C when he's on his game, but offensively has never consistently produced enough to be a reliable 2nd line C. Studnicka may never been that guy either, but we at least know he has a lot of the raw skills you look for in a 2nd line C so IMO we need to give it a go and see if he can be it.

Well stated.

Agreed.

 

[Bearcrap]

Pasta on 2nd and smith on 1st problem solved well balanced attack

Problem is Cassidy will never break up the Perfection line.

 

[wintersej]

a Hall-Coyle-Smith line is perfectly fine on paper. It's talented enough to be a 2nd line in the NHL.

The problems with it are this:
1. The Bruins are supposed to be some kind of contender and IMO a real contender should have a better 2nd line
2. It is a regression to back before they got Hall. Now instead of Krejci carrying 2 borderline (or worse) 3rd liners, it'll be Hall having to do it.

Hall with Krejci was what made that one of the most dangerous 2nd lines in the NHL. Now it'll be middle of the pack at best unless Coyle manages to do what he has never really done before and that's consistently play like he did in the 2019 playoffs for a whole 82 game season.

For the record, this is why I would rather see Studnicka get a shot there over Coyle (assuming he looks the part in camp). With Coyle, we know what he is. He's a really high end 3rd line C when he's on his game, but offensively has never consistently produced enough to be a reliable 2nd line C. Studnicka may never been that guy either, but we at least know he has a lot of the raw skills you look for in a 2nd line C so IMO we need to give it a go and see if he can be it.

If Studnicka beats out Coyle for the job that’s a good thing.

And you are right that they are basically even on their 2nd line vs previous years.

Now look at the bottom six. I think it’s a lot better.

 

[wintersej]

Problem is Cassidy will never break up the Perfection line.

Going to play devils advocate here. What if putting Pasta on that line and giving Bergeron easier minutes is the secret elixir to playing at a high level at his age?

 

[The don godfather]

If Studnicka beats out Coyle for the job that’s a good thing.

And you are right that they are basically even on their 2nd line vs previous years.

Now look at the bottom six. I think it’s a lot better.

Yes stud please knockout Coyle out of 2c. Hoping.

 

[PlayMakers]

a Hall-Coyle-Smith line is perfectly fine on paper. It's talented enough to be a 2nd line in the NHL.

The problems with it are this:
1. The Bruins are supposed to be some kind of contender and IMO a real contender should have a better 2nd line
2. It is a regression to back before they got Hall. Now instead of Krejci carrying 2 borderline (or worse) 3rd liners, it'll be Hall having to do it.

Hall with Krejci was what made that one of the most dangerous 2nd lines in the NHL. Now it'll be middle of the pack at best unless Coyle manages to do what he has never really done before and that's consistently play like he did in the 2019 playoffs for a whole 82 game season.

For the record, this is why I would rather see Studnicka get a shot there over Coyle (assuming he looks the part in camp). With Coyle, we know what he is. He's a really high end 3rd line C when he's on his game, but offensively has never consistently produced enough to be a reliable 2nd line C. Studnicka may never been that guy either, but we at least know he has a lot of the raw skills you look for in a 2nd line C so IMO we need to give it a go and see if he can be it.

I think you can make the case the 2nd line is better (on paper), because it wasn’t Krejci carrying two 3rd liners, it was Krejci carrying one 3rd liner and our 13th forward: Kuhlman, Backes, whoever.

At least Hall will have two proven and effective NHL players to skate with.

 

[JEM28]

Well they have won three cups in 39 years compared to the Bruins one.

Well yes they have had some success and more cups than the Bruins in that time frame.

pretty sure they missed the playoffs by a healthy margin last year, sooooo….

 

[JEM28]

If I recall correctly, he said he wanted to be closer to family, which is total BS since he went to Canada.

Oh yeah there was that too. Absolute BS.

 

[Tbaybruin]

So a team already down a center would benefit from losing another one?

Absolutely not. Coyle would be moved knowing that a better and legit #1- 2 coming from another trade.

 

[NeelyDan]

What smoke? You're just speculating. You're also giving Sweeney the benefit of the doubt at the expense of saying Krejci didn't tell him he was done until after free agency.

That's absurd. The fact our GM signed a bunch of free agents who can play center also totally refutes any benefit of the doubt Sweeney might get.

“He did not close the door on returning back,” Cassidy pointed out. “I don’t know if that will happen or when it will happen at all, but he didn’t say I’m retiring and done from the National Hockey League. So, that’s good news for us in the sense that maybe in a couple of months, he’ll feel satisfied with what he needed to do, or maybe not.”

 

[Gordoff]

“He did not close the door on returning back,” Cassidy pointed out. “I don’t know if that will happen or when it will happen at all, but he didn’t say I’m retiring and done from the National Hockey League. So, that’s good news for us in the sense that maybe in a couple of months, he’ll feel satisfied with what he needed to do, or maybe not.”

B's front office psycho-babble.

 

[BB88]

So 10 million plus is okay with you? Taking up 13-15% of your cap?

With that contract you're simply hurting the team elsewhere. It's not just about one player.

Why is everything final with you? see above quote to analyser.

"It doesn’t make sense to move him. The fact this is being discussed is pointless."

You need franchise guys.
If you’re not willing to keep them why bother?

Did Bergeron/Krejci/Rask/Chara contracts stop the Bruins from contending when they were signed?

 

[Blowfish]

You need franchise guys.
If you’re not willing to keep them why bother?

Did Bergeron/Krejci/Rask/Chara contracts stop the Bruins from contending when they were signed?

Don't disagree but with a cap you need to be prudent not to impact other parts of the team. If the demand is outside team structure/plans unfortunately you would need to consider a trade. A trade can work in the team's benefit as well.

 

[bruins19]

You forgot Snooki...

Bruce Springsteen (Freehold, NJ)

 

[Fenian24]

Charlie Coyle as number 2 center and Matt Grzlyk as a top 4 D get you a lottery pick. Not a good one because the Bergeron line and McAvoy will win a enough games to not be Arizona/Buffalo awful.

Good news is that should be the end of Sweeney and Cassidy.

 

[08SeaBass08]

Bruce Springsteen (Freehold, NJ)

If you've seen the rest of the list, the Boss definitely doesn't belong on it.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Charlie Coyle as number 2 center and Matt Grzlyk as a top 4 D get you a lottery pick. Not a good one because the Bergeron line and McAvoy will win a enough games to not be Arizona/Buffalo awful.

Good news is that should be the end of Sweeney and Cassidy.

LOL. OK.

 

[Ratty]

Giving Studnicka a shot at 2C is worth the risk. And the risk is mitigated by Coyle being available, healthy and willing. If Studs proves he's a fit for that line it eliminates the need to trade for a Dvorak or Monahan, for example. Those assets can be better used at the trade deadline.

Keeping moves in house is a win-win, considering the exorbitant cost to acquire a proven center.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Charlie Coyle as number 2 center and Matt Grzlyk as a top 4 D get you a lottery pick. Not a good one because the Bergeron line and McAvoy will win a enough games to not be Arizona/Buffalo awful.

Good news is that should be the end of Sweeney and Cassidy.

You’re in for disappointment. It’s good enough to make the playoffs, but not go far. Mediocre/middling as usual.