Boston Bruins Your roster changes / proposals XI

[The don godfather]

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If that's the case poor stud.

 

[CDJ]

It's a clear fact Pastrnak was more productive, but he also moved to Allsvenskan, the AHL of Sweden, while young Fabian got limited games and limited minutes in the SHL with Lulea.

And there you have it, my limited understanding of the Swedish league in full effect

 

[BlackFrancis]

And there you have it, my limited understanding of the Swedish league in full effect

If you'd asked me a month ago, I'd have sworn up and down Pastrnak played in the SHL.

 

[analyser]

The Bruins are not going to trade their young superstar #1 defenseman.

If Brad Park, Chris Pronger, Seth Jones, etc. have been traded then why not Charlie for the right assets if it makes sense. The Bruins have to manage their cap and not do something that will cripple them for years to come. Charlie is probably one of the top 7 or so dmen in the league but he cannot dictate the whole team's structure for years to come.

Do what you think makes the team competitive for years to come.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

If Brad Park, Chris Pronger, Seth Jones, etc. have been traded then why not Charlie for the right assets if it makes sense. The Bruins have to manage their cap and not do something that will cripple them for years to come. Charlie is probably one of the top 7 or so dmen in the league but he cannot dictate the whole team's structure for years to come.

Do what you think makes the team competitive for years to come.

Keeping McAvoy is what makes you a competitive team. You pay your good players and not overpay crap.

 

[mar2kbos]

At some point the Bruins (and their fans) are going to have to let go of the idea that everyone will play here for half of what they're worth.

McAvoy is going to cost $9-10m.

The Bruins next #1 center is going to cost $9m+.

which angers me even more. You had stars locked up for years at a low salary and you couldn’t build a great supplement roster around them. This now makes drafting vital. They are going to have stars paid in that 9-10 mil range and will have little else to spread around.

 

[Dr Hook]

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"Fabian needs to be harder on pucks, he needs to bring his compete level shift to shift and understand what it takes to play the pro game"

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

If Brad Park, Chris Pronger, Seth Jones, etc. have been traded then why not Charlie for the right assets if it makes sense. The Bruins have to manage their cap and not do something that will cripple them for years to come. Charlie is probably one of the top 7 or so dmen in the league but he cannot dictate the whole team's structure for years to come.

Do what you think makes the team competitive for years to come.

Fair point.

But Park, Pronger and Seth Jones? Maybe Shea Weber or Erik Karlsson instead?

 

[analyser]

Keeping McAvoy is what makes you a competitive team. You pay your good players and not overpay crap.

Not nesessarily, he would bring in valuable assets which may make the team more complete. Paying for crap is one of the reasons the Bruins are where they are now, completely management's fault and the fix is not going to be easy. When Bobby Orr was with the Bruins they had a lot of very competent players on the team.

 

[UConn126]

The Bruins are not going to trade their young superstar #1 defenseman.

Considering the number of young superstars we've traded away, I'm almost more shocked when we retain young talent....

Thornton
Kessel
Wheeler
Seguin
Hamilton

Franky we're overdue to get rid of another elite young player. Wouldn't shock me at all if we trade McAvoy. I'd absolutely hate it because we lost every trade on this list except for Kessel (and debatably Wheeler since it lead to a Cup) but it would not surprise me.

 

[analyser]

Fair point.

But Park, Pronger and Seth Jones? Maybe Shea Weber or Erik Karlsson instead?

Regardless, all these players were considered to be among the top NHL D and all were traded.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Regardless, all these players were considered to be among the top NHL D and all were traded.

Just seemed odd placing Seth Jones with 2 all-time greats.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Not nesessarily, he would bring in valuable assets which may make the team more complete. Paying for crap is one of the reasons the Bruins are where they are now, completely management's fault and the fix is not going to be easy. When Bobby Orr was with the Bruins they had a lot of very competent players on the team.

There also wasn’t a salary cap and guys didn’t make close to the money they make now.

What valuable assets is McAvoy bringing in that make the team more complete? He returning a #1 D ++ ???

It doesn’t make sense to move him. The fact this is being discussed is pointless.

 

[Greek_physique]

Considering the number of young superstars we've traded away, I'm almost more shocked when we retain young talent....

Thornton
Kessel
Wheeler
Seguin
Hamilton

Franky we're overdue to get rid of another elite young player. Wouldn't shock me at all if we trade McAvoy. I'd absolutely hate it because we lost every trade on this list except for Kessel (and debatably Wheeler since it lead to a Cup) but it would not surprise me.

In the case of Kessel/Dougie, they both wanted out, instead of the opposite..so while I understand why you had them on the list, you could exclude them.

As for the Wheeler deal, I don't think you can complain about this one...sure the kid turned out great, but Pevs did play a ROLE in us winning the cup. If we had to unload Stud or Lohrei this year and it allowed us to win again, I don't think many would be that upset if they became good or great players.

The bigger issue with Thornton and Seguin was the return we got for them..

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Considering the number of young superstars we've traded away, I'm almost more shocked when we retain young talent....

Thornton
Kessel
Wheeler
Seguin
Hamilton

Franky we're overdue to get rid of another elite young player. Wouldn't shock me at all if we trade McAvoy. I'd absolutely hate it because we lost every trade on this list except for Kessel (and debatably Wheeler since it lead to a Cup) but it would not surprise me.

But remember, Bruins had to trade Hamilton because he wouldn't play in the USA.

 

[analyser]

There also wasn’t a salary cap and guys didn’t make close to the money they make now.

What valuable assets is McAvoy bringing in that make the team more complete? He returning a #1 D ++ ???

It doesn’t make sense to move him. The fact this is being discussed is pointless.

This is your opinion and none of us have any say in what will happen. The fact is star players are traded quite often and with this management team nothing would surprise us the fans. I hope all things work out with Charlie and that the team will be able to compete at a high level for years to come.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Considering the number of young superstars we've traded away, I'm almost more shocked when we retain young talent....

Thornton
Kessel
Wheeler
Seguin
Hamilton

Franky we're overdue to get rid of another elite young player. Wouldn't shock me at all if we trade McAvoy. I'd absolutely hate it because we lost every trade on this list except for Kessel (and debatably Wheeler since it lead to a Cup) but it would not surprise me.

At least a 20% chance he gets traded.

We'd likely get our pick of 5 mil/year D men from anyone on the league and picks+plugs.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

At least a 20% chance he gets traded.

We'd likely get our pick of 5 mil/year D men from anyone on the league and picks+plugs.

If by 20%+ you mean less than 1% then I agree with you.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Not nesessarily, he would bring in valuable assets which may make the team more complete. Paying for crap is one of the reasons the Bruins are where they are now, completely management's fault and the fix is not going to be easy. When Bobby Orr was with the Bruins they had a lot of very competent players on the team.

What's a more valuable asset than a #1 Dman with an existing D-core of a bunch of shitters?

 

[Blowfish]

The Bruins are not going to trade their young superstar #1 defenseman.

Okay that's that...LOL

Let's wait and see.

 

[Blowfish]

If Brad Park, Chris Pronger, Seth Jones, etc. have been traded then why not Charlie for the right assets if it makes sense. The Bruins have to manage their cap and not do something that will cripple them for years to come. Charlie is probably one of the top 7 or so dmen in the league but he cannot dictate the whole team's structure for years to come.

Do what you think makes the team competitive for years to come.

Good post. Agreed.

 

[Blowfish]

There also wasn’t a salary cap and guys didn’t make close to the money they make now.

What valuable assets is McAvoy bringing in that make the team more complete? He returning a #1 D ++ ???

It doesn’t make sense to move him. The fact this is being discussed is pointless.

So 10 million plus is okay with you? Taking up 13-15% of your cap?

With that contract you're simply hurting the team elsewhere. It's not just about one player.

Why is everything final with you? see above quote to analyser.

"It doesn’t make sense to move him. The fact this is being discussed is pointless."

 

[Riverfront]

would mcavoy sign an 8 year deal worth 68 million today. AAV OF 8.5 Million.
what are odds he would ?

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

would mcavoy sign an 8 year deal worth 68 million today. AAV OF 8.5 Million.
what are odds he would ?

My gut feel is his agent is looking at the D contracts being handed out and telling McAvoy to just play this season and sign later because his value is only going to go up.

The only way he signs a deal sooner is if he's already made up his mind and tells his agent to just get something done.

 

[kjpm]

Gotta pay the man what he's worth. Would you rather have one Charlie McAvoy or two and a half Nick Folignos?