GDT: You'll Shoot Yer Eye Out, Kid! Sabres @ Devils, 7 PM, MSG+

[glenwo2]

Ottawa pulls it out against the Jackets in regulation. HUGE WIN....for us in the out of town scoreboard.

 

[Emperoreddy]

then you didn’t see the angle but the isn’t a conspiracy to give wins to buffalo because of the winter classic

There is no angle. MSG showed every angle and it wasn’t there.

 

[R8Devs]

Offside is going to be changed to some degree I think by the next cba

 

[EnglishDevil]

I hate to beat a dead horse in this thread, but Zajac is done. This is the worst play I’ve ever seen from him. He can’t possess the puck let alone create any offense and his skating is shot.

Watching Zajac is giving me flashbacks of post-2009 Sean Horcoff, the guy went from being a 50-60 point two-way center to an overpaid anchor literally overnight (well, one off-season).

Like Zajac, he hung around for years afterwards purely because of his defensive/faceoff abilities and his albatross contract, but basically lost all ability to skate, shoot, pass or control the puck.

I hope i’m wrong and Travis can find a way to bounce back, but I wouldn’t be shocked if 20-30 points a season becomes his new norm.

I’d trade him ASAP if someone would take him.

 

[Blender]

Can you imagine if that **** happens in a game 7 OT finals games? The league will be a laughing stock.

It isn't one already?

 

[VaxjoDevil]

i think thats in the rule book........ i guess they threw it out the window tonight. such bs. lehner should complain.

I am actually wondering if in the rule book "possession" is defined as having the puck on your stick, but I don't know.

 

[AveryQuietMan]

0.0%

just like their playoff chances

for a laugh after the game...... eric the ack ack tor

 

[NJDevs26]

They'll eliminate the off-sides rule within the next two seasons...book it. As soon as it cost a league darling an important game it'll be gone.

Except they’ll make sure that won’t happen. Just like the Patriots only benefit from the catch rule week after week

 

[Emperoreddy]

Team’s fine and our place in the standings is fine.

I just don’t like be jobbed out of a win.

 

[Bleedred]

He's done very little since coming back. Looks slow and out of place.. don't need stats or whatever corsi is to tell.me.he sucks

To me it's like the goalie stats I was telling you about earlier. it's just more evidence to corroborate that he sucks outside of ''Well he just looks bad''.

He looks really bad though. Subtle plays that a couple of us noticed earlier, no point production at all. Does he have a power play out of those 2 whopping points? He sure plays on it enough.

In that 14-15 season where he had a down year offensively, those corsi numbers looked good. Right now? They're tied for the worst of any forward on the team. They were tied with Jimmy Hayes before this game. He's not even loaded up with the D-zone starts that Greene and Santini are loaded up with. I think he starts more in the D-zone, but it's close enough to 50%, it's not like he's starting 25%-30% of his shifts in the D-zone.

 

[DerekDevils30]

Oh man and that would have been Hall's sexiest goal of the season

Now they can say the Sabres are turning it on just in time for the Winter Classic. 3 points in the last two games. TUNE IN

 

[britdevil]

Watching Zajac is giving me flashbacks of post-2009 Sean Horcoff, the guy went from being a 50-60 point two-way center to an overpaid anchor literally overnight (well, one off-season).

Like Zajac, he hung around for years afterwards purely because of his defensive/faceoff abilities and his albatross contract, but basically lost all ability to skate, shoot, pass or control the puck.

I hope i’m wrong and Travis can find a way to bounce back, but I wouldn’t be shocked if 20-30 points a season becomes his new norm.

I’d trade him ASAP if someone would take him.

We'd be lucky to get 20 points at this rate.

 

[guitarguyvic]

3 on 3 is certainly hockey, and it's awesome to watch. It's so much hockey that it's actually the best players that excels in it.

Too bad Hynes doesn't agree...since he didn't put our best players out there in OT.

 

[Bcap88]

shouldnt him tipping it be considered possession? its ok for dmen to rifle it from your d zone and have a guy stand at the red line and tip it into the o zone and they dont consider that icing because its "Possession"

 

[Bleedred]

Team’s fine and our place in the standings is fine.

I just don’t like be jobbed out of a win.

I usually don't say something like this, but I seriously almost think that Lehner's complaining after last game, led to the officials throwing him a bone tonight.

 

[Sir Fenwick Corsi]

They'll eliminate the off-sides rule within the next two seasons...book it. As soon as it cost a league darling an important game it'll be gone.

It should have never existed in the first place. They ask two humans to determine onsides that typically come down to millimeters combined with the speed of the game. Never mind that they’re pretty exceptional at it, if they don’t want to trust their judgement, then put some sensors in the ice or some shit. Challenging offsides has no place in the game.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Too bad Hynes doesn't agree...since he didn't put our best players out there in OT.

He did though. Hall started OT. Nico was out the next shift and couldn’t bury a winner. Bratt was out next and wasn’t able to sneak a goal in.

Vats had Lehner a mile outside the crease and for some unknown reason chose not to shoot.

 

[glenwo2]

say what you want about the challenge and review but the goal was offsides, not that it affected his breakaway or how he scored. but the view from the opposite side that they showed one good look have showed he lifted his skate of the blueline like .001 seconds before the puck crossed. sucks but it’s not why we lost

Actually, it IS why we lost.


Sure the Devils played down to the competition as usual but that goal that SHOULD'VE stood, would've ended up as a Devils victory.

 

[Cult of Hynes]

3 on 3 is certainly hockey, and it's awesome to watch. It's so much hockey that it's actually the best players that excels in it.

Yea, well it would be awesome of our coach realized the best players need to play and actually played them instead of doing what ever the f*** he does in OT, which seems like he tosses darts at a dart board with players names on it.

Any coaching staff that thinks Zajac is not only a top 6 player, but a good option on the PP and 3 on 3, should get walking papers even if they make the playoffs. It's f***ing mind blowing that some people defend such garbage from Hynes and company.

 

[VaxjoDevil]

Too bad Hynes doesn't agree...since he didn't put our best players out there in OT.

I don't disagree with this.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I usually don't say something like this, but I seriously almost think that Lehner's complaining after last game, led to the officials throwing him a bone tonight.

Idk what the deal was but it was awful.

The second goal against never should have happened either. Palms elbowed in the face by Eichel with no call. He was clearly woozy and out of the play and couldn’t get over in time to cover for the tip in.

 

[devilsblood]

say what you want about the challenge and review but the goal was offsides, not that it affected his breakaway or how he scored. but the view from the opposite side that they showed one good look have showed he lifted his skate of the blueline like .001 seconds before the puck crossed. sucks but it’s not why we lost

If you think he has control of the puck then he isn't offsides.

It's a gray area. Which prob means it shouldn't be overturned.

 

[Bleedred]

Too bad Hynes doesn't agree...since he didn't put our best players out there in OT.

I'll never understand it.

He's gotta be seeing the same things as us. How long do we let the player work out of the funk? How long do we let him throw a huge weight on guys like Palmieri and Johansson before we say ''Well, Jesus, it's 20 games (maybe 30 by then), he's got 2 points. He gets glued in his own end all night. Zacha was literally only a third as bad as this and we had him benched a bunch of games not too long ago. Is he finished as a player? Maybe not, but we better stop giving him this veteran privilege''.

 

[glenwo2]

They'll eliminate the off-sides rule within the next two seasons...book it. As soon as it cost a league darling an important game it'll be gone.

If they do that, I'm done watching Hockey because all we would see are stretch passes 24/7 through the zone while the offensive player is already parked in the opponents' defensive end.

 

[Blender]

Ignoring for a second that they never had a conclusive shot of that being offside, here are the rules for offside. Not sure how Hall wasn't considered to be in control of the puck since he flipped it to himself.

83.1
Off-side
- Players of the attacking team must not precede the puck into the attacking zone.
The position of the player’s skates and not that of his stick shall be the determining factor in all instances in deciding an off-side. A player is off-side when both skates are completely over the leading edge of the blue line involved in the play.

A player is on-side when either of his skates are in contact with, or on his own side of the line, at the instant the puck completely crosses the leading edge of the blue line regardless of the position of his stick. However, a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the blue line.

It should be noted that while the position of the player’s skates is what determines whether a player is “off-side,” nevertheless the question of an “off-side” never arises until the puck has completely crossed the leading edge of the blue line at which time the decision is to be made.