Value of: Yamamoto + 2022 First

[DingDongCharlie]

No, he's definitely not

He is to us. Guy is easily capable of playing in the top 9. We struggled for years trying to build and develop depth. It’s fine if another team wouldn’t pay that as I’d rather keep a 3rd liner vs a 2nd which has about a 25% of returning an NHL regular

 

[North]

Throw in M.McLeod and we might be interested.

No we wouldn’t.

 

[OKR]

Oilers fans are the most delusional fanbase in the World tbh

 

[McJedi]

Oilers fans are the most delusional fanbase in the World tbh

I guess you don’t read the many proposals from Habs fans.

 

[OilersCoffeeArtBeer]

Oilers fans are the most delusional fanbase in the World tbh

Ouch. I wouldn't say we are the most delusional but we have our days for sure.
Anyways..... I'm just gonna sit here tonight and watch the two best players in the world, wear my favorite teams jersey. Have a good day.

 

[McJedi]

Yamamoto got overrated after a great start to his NHL career. But we may now be at the point he’s now underrated after a disappointing second season. A 1st + Yamamoto for Rakell is a deal the Ducks should jump all over if Anaheim is retaining 50%. Or just taking back Koskinen instead.

that makes sense as a deal.

koskinen (negative value/cap space) + Yamamoto + 1st for Rakell (no retention). Oil dump a bad goalie on bad contract, a late 1st and middle six winger for a top six winger/goal scorer they should attempt to resign. Anaheim probably adding something here like solid B level prospect.

 

[TFHockey]

Ouch. I wouldn't say we are the most delusional but we have our days for sure.
Anyways..... I'm just gonna sit here tonight and watch the two best players in the world, wear my favorite teams jersey. Have a good day.

Right on

 

[OKR]

I guess you don’t read the many proposals from Habs fans.

There are shit ton of more Habs fans on these boards, so obviously they will show up more in bad as well as good, but Oilers have two of the best forwards in hockey and still fail to make any real damage, but yet every Oilers fans still asks for a kings ransom for their role players.

 

[TFHockey]

There are shit ton of more Habs fans on these boards, so obviously they will show up more in bad as well as good, but Oilers have two of the best forwards in hockey and still fail to make any real damage, but yet every Oilers fans still asks for a kings ransom for their role players.

Another salty take. 'Nuff said.

 

[OKR]

Another salty take. 'Nuff said.

Another prime example of the delusion lol

 

[TFHockey]

Yamamoto got overrated after a great start to his NHL career. But we may now be at the point he’s now underrated after a disappointing second season. A 1st + Yamamoto for Rakell is a deal the Ducks should jump all over if Anaheim is retaining 50%. Or just taking back Koskinen instead.

that makes sense as a deal.

koskinen (negative value/cap space) + Yamamoto + 1st for Rakell (no retention). Oil dump a bad goalie on bad contract, a late 1st and middle six winger for a top six winger/goal scorer they should attempt to resign. Anaheim probably adding something here like solid B level prospect.

I personally think that is an overpay for Rakell, especially since he is a pending free agent at the end of the year. I suppose Anaheim would demand a premium from a divisional rival, however.

Not a trade I think Holland should, or would, ever make.

edit: Rakell is an upgrade on Yamamoto. To be clear.

 

[themelkman]

Reclamation project? You're out to lunch.

He is a 2017 draft pick. Look who else is from that draft- Tippett, Kostin, Foote, Valamaki, Chytil, Tolvanen etc who are just not establishing themselves in the NHL and would be considered valuable pieces by their respective organizations. And they've proven less than Yamamoto

Was Lias Andersson not a reclamation project? Would Erik Brannstrom not be? 2017 is 5 years ago. Typical first rounders take 2-3 years to break into the league.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Was Lias Andersson not a reclamation project? Would Erik Brannstrom not be? 2017 is 5 years ago. Typical first rounders take 2-3 years to break into the league.

They never found NHL success, so they'd be a player that a team would acquire to see if there is an NHL player there.

Yamamoto scored 26 points in 27 games as a rookie. Then had a sophomore slump last year. Thats not someone whose NHL career is in question and could be bought for pennies on the dollar

 

[Llamamoto]

They never found NHL success, so they'd be a player that a team would acquire to see if there is an NHL player there.

Yamamoto scored 26 points in 27 games as a rookie. Then had a sophomore slump last year. Thats not someone whose NHL career is in question and could be bought for pennies on the dollar

And even during his sophomore slump managed to play at a >30 point pace while being a strong PKer and defensive forward.

People should not be giving up on him after 2 bad games.

 

[themelkman]

They never found NHL success, so they'd be a player that a team would acquire to see if there is an NHL player there.

Yamamoto scored 26 points in 27 games as a rookie. Then had a sophomore slump last year. Thats not someone whose NHL career is in question and could be bought for pennies on the dollar

I dont think people buy his success is his own. His advanced stats are meh, and all his points come from playing with Edmontons top dogs.

We have seen in the past how even someone like Kassian scored well playing with the worlds best player.

I dont think hes worthless, but to imply hes worth a lot is asking a lot from people. Id value him a bit higher than a second rounder

 

[Homesick]

Some oiler fans are in for a rude awakening to the value of Yamamoto. For me he is a 3rd liner at best

This is what was said about Puljujarvi as well

 

[tkb81]

strome?

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I remember it wasn’t too long ago we used to have these threads about Puljujarvi.

We should actually dredge up a couple of those and see what everyone thought of him all those 12-14 months ago.

I was just going through some old threads (I get bored at work) and I found loads of threads where Oiler fans were willing to part with Puljujarvi + Nurse to land OEL when he was on Arizona.

 

[GOilers88]

There are shit ton of more Habs fans on these boards, so obviously they will show up more in bad as well as good, but Oilers have two of the best forwards in hockey and still fail to make any real damage, but yet every Oilers fans still asks for a kings ransom for their role players.

Basically every team has fans like this on these forums.

Consider it the opposite of being told everyone on the team is a product of McDavid, cause that's all we ever hear.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

And if Oilers are trading Holloway+1st they would be getting back Drysdale+++ not Lindholm

So you think Yamamoto is worth a 2nd and you think Holloway + 1st is worth more then Drysdale.


Holy f*** talk about delusional.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

They never found NHL success, so they'd be a player that a team would acquire to see if there is an NHL player there.

Yamamoto scored 26 points in 27 games as a rookie. Then had a sophomore slump last year. Thats not someone whose NHL career is in question and could be bought for pennies on the dollar

The kid has 3 career NHL points playing away from McDavid and/or Draisaitl. I think it's very fair to question his NHL career, because he's done essentially nothing to show that he isn't just leeching points from two of the best scorers in the NHL.

 

[majormajor]

The kid has 3 career NHL points playing away from McDavid and/or Draisaitl. I think it's very fair to question his NHL career, because he's done essentially nothing to show that he isn't just leeching points from two of the best scorers in the NHL.

The Oilers have gone through dozens of forwards over the last few years who they can only wish would leech some points from the top guys. There are players that have been tried with them that do not score at all.

 

[majormajor]

Yamamoto + 1st is a nice package, but practically speaking there isn't going to be a big trade until the deadline. The Oilers don't have cap space and teams like Anaheim are going to try to win some games first.

 

[glenbuis]

absolutely no interest in yamamoto but i think the habs and oilers could be good partners .

gallagher ( 1 million retained)
chariot ( 50% retained )
allen ( 25 % retained )

in exchange for

bouchard
koskinen
turris ( oiler's option )

 

[ManofSteel55]

absolutely no interest in yamamoto but i think the habs and oilers could be good partners .

gallagher ( 1 million retained)
chariot ( 50% retained )
allen ( 25 % retained )

in exchange for

bouchard
koskinen
turris ( oiler's option )

Get outta here. Bouchard was bumped up to our top pair last game and looked good there. He's not going anywhere.