Confirmed Trade: [WSH/LAK] Pierre-Luc Dubois for Darcy Kuemper (no salary retained)

[Sol]

Kuznetsov has been worse, with the wrong attitude and drug problem. Thank goodness he had his best year in 2018 to be a huge offensive contributor to the win Cup for the Caps. PLD is 7 years younger, you get the impression he's a nice guy but misunderstood, he hasn't reached his pinnacle(Kuzy did winning the Cup). Caps have experience dealing with Semin/Kuzy in regard to attitude issues. So they are somewhat prepared go about things better with PLD.

Kuznetsov was ten times the player PLD ever was and if he can get his shit together he has more value. PLD has shit attitude and whatever “pinnacle” you think he has has to come from getting his hands dirty and his feet moving. Two things he has ZERO interest in doing. I don’t know where you’re getting this rosy picture of PLD but there was never any signs of it on the Kings and he had every opportunity to display it.


You can’t win with shitty attitude and unbelievable laziness regardless of how talented you think he is.

 

[luiginb]

Fourth team already for a 25 yo... not a good look for a player drafted 3rd overall

 

[PullHard]

So they finally got rid of Kuznetsov but then went out and got this guy instead?

Replace Kuznetsov with Mantha

 

[byrath]

Did the media forget to report all the futures going to WSH?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Anyways with players like Backstrom LiTR
Carlson Oveckhin 2 years left
Oshie 1 year

Washington don't have that many problem with salary cap. That's alot of salary gone in 2 years

 

[Misery74]

It's less the price you paid and more what specifically you bought.

The Kings bought it, than gave it to us. Our return was an unplayable cap dump.

I’ll take our chances. Kuempers last win was February, and we made the postseason.

 

[Holtbyisms]

The Kings bought it, than gave it to us. Our return was an unplayable cap dump.

I’ll take our chances. Kuempers last win was February, and we made the postseason.

I think people might be underestimating just how terrible Darcy was last year too lol...you might be sending him to the AHL to make room for an actual goalie.

 

[GRob83]

Fourth team already for a 25 yo... not a good look for a player drafted 3rd overall

Dylan Strome was also a 3rd overall draft pick that joined the Capitals after playing for multiple teams at the age of 25. Dubois was the Kings leader in primary assists per 60 minutes last season and is an immediate upgrade in the faceoff circle over McMichael and Lapierre. The salary and term are ugly now but his best years may very well be ahead of him and with the salary cap on the rise it may not look nearly as bad in a few years if he turns things around the way Strome did.

 

[CTHabsfan]

well the timing and discount would matter I suppose but I doubt that the capitals trade him for guys like Harris or Barron who are literally looking like fringe NHLers at this point.

Montreal would need Washington to retain a lot of salary for a PLD trade to be considered, while the Caps would trade PLD at full salary in a heartbeat for Harris or Barron. That might not sound like a great return, but it would mean Washington was able to get rid of Darcy Kuemper for a cheap young defensemen.

 

[Rorschach]

Anyways with players like Backstrom LiTR
Carlson Oveckhin 2 years left
Oshie 1 year

Washington don't have that many problem with salary cap. That's alot of salary gone in 2 years

Of course not. They bought capfriendly.com after all, lol.

 

[Random schmoe]

Anyways with players like Backstrom LiTR
Carlson Oveckhin 2 years left
Oshie 1 year

Washington don't have that many problem with salary cap. That's alot of salary gone in 2 years

Oshie himself has acknowledged that he may not be able to play anymore due to long term back problems, so be may also be on LTIR for most of the season.

 

[ovikovy817]

Fourth team already for a 25 yo... not a good look for a player drafted 3rd overall

Dylan Strome came to Washington (his 3rd team) as a 25yo drafted 3rd overall.

If PLD can have the same first 2 seasons as Strome every Caps fan will be happy.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Fourth team already for a 25 yo... not a good look for a player drafted 3rd overall

Dubois is probably the highest maintenance player in the NHL. Not a team player, only cares about his own stats and success.

 

[Holtbyisms]

Dubois is probably the highest maintenance player in the NHL. Not a team player, only cares about his own stats and success.

Sounds like you guys have been teammates for years. Tell us more.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Im wondering if Huberdeau is possibly movable now because nobody thought that Dubois contract was movable.

PLD had a bad year in LA but was a 60 point player in Winnipeg his two seasons there. He’s also 25 and plays center. Huberdeau is 31. I think the position and age difference make them different situations. Not saying Huberdeau isn’t movable but the Caps have PLD signed until he’s 32 whereas Huberdeau is signed until he’s 38 and is also making $2M more per year.

 

[Random schmoe]

PLD had a bad year in LA but was a 60 point player in Winnipeg his two seasons there. He’s also 25 and plays center. Huberdeau is 31. I think the position and age difference make them different situations. Not saying Huberdeau isn’t movable but the Caps have PLD signed until he’s 32 whereas Huberdeau is signed until he’s 38 and is also making $2M more per year.

Huberdeau also has a complete NMC that is already in effect, whereas PLD has no clauses prior to July 1.

 

[winnipegger]

Torts saw his bullshit on day one. Torts was right.

 

[Kingspiracy]

PLD had a bad year in LA but was a 60 point player in Winnipeg his two seasons there. He’s also 25 and plays center. Huberdeau is 31. I think the position and age difference make them different situations. Not saying Huberdeau isn’t movable but the Caps have PLD signed until he’s 32 whereas Huberdeau is signed until he’s 38 and is also making $2M more per year.

"plays center"

 

[LAKings88]

I defended him for awhile, line mates, usage, etc. Some truth there but overall he is highly overrated. I do think he can put up 60 points again but I think that is who he is.

 

[Boxertim]

I think the Caps win this trade. Dubois will likely bounce back…it was just that LA didn’t like something about his effort or attitude. They cut bait. The Caps will just let him play and leave him alone to work through his issues. There aren’t any expectations of him. The fan base is on Ovi goal watch.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Kuznetsov was ten times the player PLD ever was and if he can get his shit together he has more value. PLD has shit attitude and whatever “pinnacle” you think he has has to come from getting his hands dirty and his feet moving. Two things he has ZERO interest in doing. I don’t know where you’re getting this rosy picture of PLD but there was never any signs of it on the Kings and he had every opportunity to display it.


You can’t win with shitty attitude and unbelievable laziness regardless of how talented you think he is.

You obviously don't know how the Capitals operate...

 

[Kingsfan1]

Watch Darcy win the Vezina or Williams Jennings next season

 

[HabsAddict]

All I can say that the Habs team and fans are safe for one more season...

Dubois must be the most written about player on HF. For the wrong reasons.

 

[wetcoast]

Montreal would need Washington to retain a lot of salary for a PLD trade to be considered, while the Caps would trade PLD at full salary in a heartbeat for Harris or Barron. That might not sound like a great return, but it would mean Washington was able to get rid of Darcy Kuemper for a cheap young defensemen.

I agree that they might consider as a salary dump but I doubt they are doing this kind of 3 dimensional chess and actually want to keep PLD warts and all.

Also it's a stretch to call either Harris or Barron " good young Dmen" as they are looking like depth Dmen at best right now.

 

[CTHabsfan]

I agree that they might consider as a salary dump but I doubt they are doing this kind of 3 dimensional chess and actually want to keep PLD warts and all.

Also it's a stretch to call either Harris or Barron " good young Dmen" as they are looking like depth Dmen at best right now.

I didn't call Harris or Barron good, I called them cheap. I think Barron has the potential to be good, although he may end up just being serviceable. I think Harris is a solid 3rd-pairing defensemen, with the potential to be a 2nd-pairing player. Harris doesn't having the same ceiling as Barron, but he is a safe choice.