Confirmed Trade: [WPG/MTL] Sean Monahan for 2024 1st round pick and conditional 2027 3rd round pick (Mod warning OP)

[No More Subban]

I have a lot of respect for Monahan. Just a total pro. He was loved in Calgary. He was also loved in Montreal. That says a lot about the person.

 

[Heldig]

Is Monahan even that good. I've heard for such a long time now he's trash/washed up. Now all of a sudden a supposed contender is trading for him, why is that.

He is having a pretty good season, is easily affordable under the cap AND the team that traded for him very much needs what he brings:

secondary scoring
faceoff prowess
PP skills

 

[Janks]

Jets got themselves a good player, will quickly become a fan favourite like he was in Calgary (and Montreal)

 

[Junohockeyfan]

He is having a pretty good season, is easily affordable under the cap AND the team that traded for him very much needs what he brings:

secondary scoring
faceoff prowess
PP skills

The better answer is that HFBoard posters purposely hated on him because he was a Hab and at some point actually started to believe the propaganda..... until a GM ponied up for the reasons you provided above.

I would also add that Money did not have a NTC, which is another reason why Chevy jumped on it.

 

[Heldig]

The better answer is that HFBoard posters purposely hated on him because he was a Hab and at some point actually started to believe the propaganda..... until a GM ponied up for the reasons you provided above.

I would also add that Money did not have a NTC, which is another reason why Chevy jumped on it.

I would have preferred a better second line C but who knows who is actually available and at what cost.

Mostly I worry about his injury history which is why I had hoped for a conditional 1st.

 

[Huffer]

My main issues prior to the trade was around the fit and the price.

Sounds like they will try him right away with Ehlers and Perfetti, so it will be interesting to see if that line ends up working or not. Being able to move Names down helps improve the bottom 6 as a side affect.

For the price, my own personal preference is not to trade 1sts and top prospects for rentals. Absolutely understand the market at the TD, but I'd always prefer to use those assets on longer term fits. Case in point when the Jets used 2 1st round picks plus prospects on Stastny and Hayes rentals, instead of maybe using those assets together on a long term solution.

Hopeful the trade works out for all. That Monahan helps the Jets, he helps himself with a good playoffs, and the Habs get their pick. In fact, nothing would make Jets fans happier then sending that additional 3rd Montréals way too.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I would have preferred a better second line C but who knows who is actually available and at what cost.

Mostly I worry about his injury history which is why I had hoped for a conditional 1st.

My honest opinion - if healthy he is a better player than any other available C (e.g. Henrique, Roslovic) not named Lindstrom and by a very wide margin.

Where i have serious doubts is whether Money can compete in the playoffs without getting injured. Or even make it to the playoffs.

What is shocking is that Chevy did not demand a condition on # games played!!!!!

 

[DaPhazz]

I have a lot of respect for Monahan. Just a total pro. He was loved in Calgary. He was also loved in Montreal. That says a lot about the person.

Same my man, it's a bittersweet trade, wishing him the best. On the opposite skde.lf the spectrum, this thread turning into what it is right now is an expected smooth brained HF classic.

 

[Miller Time]

Agreed re: Cheveldayoff did very well here. Most on here seem to forgotten some of the other recent deals/moves Cheveldayoff has made which has worked out:

-bought out a player who served the franchise well but past his best days and perhaps a distraction in the room...his reaction to Bowness' honesty after the L.V. playoff loss was telling

-brought in depth forwards who are solid pros with high give a shit meters in Niedereider and Namesnikov

-signed their two cornerstone players to long term, cap friendly deals signalling intent there was no blowup to rebuild

-turned a player who didn't want to resign and seems to dislike hockey at times into 3 forwards increasing their depth and from all accounts are solid pros

-moving out Wheeler and PLD puts more onus and responsibilities for Ehlers and Perfetti, they've responded very well

Most important... Cheveldayoff listened to his coach after the playoffs and got to work and fixed it. Guaranteed no one wants to face Winnipeg in the playoffs...this is a rugged team who has forward depth, a solid defence with a genuine minute munching #1 in Morrisey and a goalie who on most nights will only need you to score 3-4 goals to win.

Indeed. Jets look very well equipped for a deep run, and he may not be done tweaking before the deadline.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Winnipeg overpaid here, not necessarily from a talent perspective because his talent has never been in question.

But he does have a fairly long and significant injury history this is a big risk.

But if Monahan is healthy he's a good player.

 

[Natey]

So, what you're saying is that you're dead certain the Habs receive a 1st in return for Monahan. There's a reason why people make fun of Habs fans.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Smooth.

 

[ole ole]

NHL trade grades: Canadiens ace the Sean Monahan deal

The Jets added a veteran center, but did they send too much back to Montreal? We grade both GMs here.

www.espn.com

 

[belair]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Smooth.

Desperate GM doing desperate things. I'll eat it. I look forward to next year when you guys are asking the same for Dvorak.

 

[Natey]

32nd first round is pretty much a second...

Was probably going to cheer for the Jets.. but trying to spin it this way.., now I hope they lose badly. Hell, I kind of hope they collapse and miss the playoffs now.

Desperate GM doing desperate things. I'll eat it. I look forward to next year when you guys are asking the same for Dvorak.

There are unreasonable Habs fans, but calling all of us that is where I took issue originally. Monahan is a very good player.

Dvorak is worth a mid round pick at best right now. Could he change that? Of course. But it's doubtful. He's regressed significantly since coming to Montreal, where-as Monahan stayed relatively healthy and excelled. I could see a team tossing a 4th for Dvorak for faceoffs, but that's about it unless he finds his game.

 

[Natey]

Winnipeg overpaid here, not necessarily from a talent perspective because his talent has never been in question.

But he does have a fairly long and significant injury history this is a big risk.

But if Monahan is healthy he's a good player.

Honestly, I think his injury history is a bit overblown. He's played 730 games at 29 years old.

 

[Flair Hay]

The better answer is that HFBoard posters purposely hated on him because he was a Hab and at some point actually started to believe the propaganda..... until a GM ponied up for the reasons you provided above.

I would also add that Money did not have a NTC, which is another reason why Chevy jumped on it.

For me, it was more a look at his defensive stats across the different player rating pages. He looks in those like a really questionable defensive player.

Habs fans seem to think he has a pretty solid overall game, just doesn't have the speed to drive play.

As I've gotten older and wiser I've learned not to put my faith in those numbers being completely wrong. There usually is something to them that people dont kecessarily see. But they also aren't totally indicative across the board, of course.

I'll hope this was a case of his numbers painting him in an unfair light given his supporting cast and skill set.

The 1st does feel like an overpay to me but I hope I am wrong.

 

[ole ole]

Desperate GM doing desperate things. I'll eat it. I look forward to next year when you guys are asking the same for Dvorak.

Love that crystal ball you carry around. Man the salt in this thread is just so gratifying.

 

[keglu]

The better answer is that HFBoard posters purposely hated on him because he was a Hab and at some point actually started to believe the propaganda..... until a GM ponied up for the reasons you provided above.

I would also add that Money did not have a NTC, which is another reason why Chevy jumped on it.

Or you know people think he is not very good hockey player. Different people, fifferent opinions. Yours one that Monahan is better than Henrique by wide margin is probably not very popular but I would not assume you undervaluing Henrique because you hate Ducks.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I'm not sure that this validates anything. If a competent GM actually paid a 1st for Monahan, sure. But Cheveldayoff is not really the poster child of competence.

I'll give MTL credit for taking advantage of a terrible GM though.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Winnipeg overpaid here, not necessarily from a talent perspective because his talent has never been in question.

But he does have a fairly long and significant injury history this is a big risk.

But if Monahan is healthy he's a good player.

So they overpaid only if he gets injured is what you’re saying? And if he stays healthy and continues to play at the same level he has all season Jets made a good deal?

I’m sure Chevy and the org did their due diligence before making the move. So assuming he stays healthy I’m fine with the trade. He is pretty much exactly what the Jets need , and I’m sure other parties were also very interested as the market for centres is pretty thin this year. Fair market value was paid.

 

[belair]

Love that crystal ball you carry around. Man the salt in this thread is just so gratifying.

Were you one of the ones lauding Bergevin when they traded those picks for Dvorak? My crystal ball was pretty spot on about the Habs after their Cup run.

 

[ottawa]

@Snowman @Romang67

Talk to me guys. Walk me back through why I'm an idiot for suggesting why he'd fit on the Jets

 

[Romang67]

@Snowman @Romang67

Talk to me guys. Walk me back through why I'm an idiot for suggesting why he'd fit on the Jets

I think my posts explained quite in depth why I thought he is a bad player and a bad fit as a 2C on a playoff team attempting to contend?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Or you know people think he is not very good hockey player. Different people, fifferent opinions. Yours one that Monahan is better than Henrique by wide margin is probably not very popular but I would not assume you undervaluing Henrique because you hate Ducks.

Oh no, i hate the Ducks with a passion.

 

[Snowman]

@Snowman @Romang67

Talk to me guys. Walk me back through why I'm an idiot for suggesting why he'd fit on the Jets

Not a good player, that isn't an improvement over anyone in the top 9. Hopefully, he'll prove me wrong, but nothing has changed yet to prove you right.