Confirmed Trade: [WPG/MTL] Sean Monahan for 2024 1st round pick and conditional 2027 3rd round pick (Mod warning OP)

[2028 7th]

Just saw the news and rushed to this thread. Don't have time to read through 30+ pages, but has anybody posted yet about how how everybody made fun of Habs fans for expecting a 1st??

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

Where he is going to slot in your lineup? Pretty deep I imagine. Depends if there are injuries. He should slot on PP2?

Depends, he might play PP1. Jets PP needs lots of help.

2C between Ehlers and Perfetti. Would be pretty hard to only have 10 points with those wingers.

 

[ole ole]

I said my top offer was Habs 2nd pick, this is a bit better then the Habs 2nd rd pick but not much. Jets missed out on Lindholm who was their top choice, their plan A. As I stated Monahan was more of a plan B or C trade and thats what happened.

Best thing about this, is the Jets can add other pieces bc Monahan low cap hit. So while I would of sooner paid max Habs 2nd, it really depends for me what does Chevy do with the rest of the Jets available cap space. If he uses it and adds 1-2 more players then I'll be very happy. If all we add is Monahan, that would be disappointing TDL. We have a lot of cap space, use it Chevy.

Does this look like your talking about the Habs 2nd rd pick. Boy some people.


[ 2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it. ]

 

[Guardian17]

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don’t get people thinking it’s an overpayment. Pretty standard deal. Low first for affordable secondary scoring and faceoff ability. Monahan was never going to garner less than this.

 

[FerrisRox]

You seemed to have read to many bogus posts from ignorant wannabes experts on here. This notion he sucks on D is simply not true. CReated by HF posters to attempt to lower his value when Hab fans were saying he is worth at least a 1st.
This seems to be a common thread about any Habs player on the trade block.

My opinions on Sean Monahan's defensive play come from watching Sean Monahan.

I just went through this in my previous post: if you think Sean Monahan plays a good defensively responsible game we just have wildly different opinions on what that means.

I don't see anything about his game that suggests he's a two way forward. It's just not part of his game, at all. It never has been. There are plenty of players that excel on one side of the puck of the other. The league is full of them. It's not a sleight in anyway.

But the post I was responding to called him a guy who was defense first and that's plainly and simply false.

 

[orcatown]

Is the bottom of first round that bad in this years draft??? Meant as a question not a statement.

Seems like teams in that position in the upcoming draft are quite willing to deal their first. Don't think Winnipeg was the only team considering this type of trade for Monahan.

 

[catters078]

Winnipeg will possibly face Colorado or Dallas in the first round. Tough opponent so if they lose the pick is pretty solid for the Habs around 22 to 24.

I guess if this move elevates their already strong play to win division and face a team like LA or St Louis, they likely win that .

 

[Lshap]

Just saw the news and rushed to this thread. Don't have time to read through 30+ pages, but has anybody posted yet about how how everybody made fun of Habs fans for expecting a 1st??

To their credit, from the beginning most rival fans assumed Habs fans knew what they were talking about and said something like, "Okay then... I guess he'll be worth a 1st".

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I don’t get people thinking it’s an overpayment. Pretty standard deal. Low first for affordable secondary scoring and faceoff ability. Monahan was never going to garner less than this.

It's a standard HFBoards mainboard rule that no Habs player is ever worth more than a 3rd.

 

[ole ole]

Eh. Everybody whinging about a first round pick. Enjoy the picking 28th to 32nd.

Hell i guess we will since it was free.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don’t think this is a bad move for Winnipeg at all. Solid player, low first, cheap contract that they can re-up on… what’s not to like here? It’s a solid depth move for a team that’s trying to win.

 

[Noble]

People saying this is the worst trade they've seen in a long time are seriously out to lunch.

Obviously lots of people haven't seen a healthy Sean Monahan play in years since his pre injury days with the flames.

The Jets traded a late 1st for a very serviceable middle 6 center man. This is run of the mill value at the deadline. They even got him for an extra month to help them with the playoff push.

Come back down to earth guys. He's not a hab anymore, you can quit the apoplectics.

 

[Hunter368]

Does this look like your talking about the Habs 2nd rd pick. Boy some people.


[ 2nd rd pick - maybe if all my other options didn't turn out. He does some things decent, also has some big warts. Not happy about paying a 2nd rd pick but might consider it. ]

Still true, he does have some negatives or big warts, does anyone really believe he doesn't I mean come on now. Still not my first choice by any means, I've stated that. Are we going to ignore his significant health issues or his skating or his defensive play or lack of physical play?

Jets were reported to be after Lindholm, that's who jets wanted and Jets fans wanted, you forgot to add how I said many times Monahan is a plan B move, which clearly he was. My opinion hasn't change 1%, not happy with the 1st rd pick, my max would of been a 2nd. 100% true

 

[ole ole]

Montreal gets 2 1sts and then proceeds to draft busts

Want some cheese to go with that whine?

 

[FerrisRox]

Yeah not sure why people are saying he's good defensively. Bizarre. Must be that good ol Canadian boy thing, like Bo Horvat.

But seriously, good at faceoffs != good defensively

I've commented on this before, but I have often seen people confuse tough, physical defenseman with being "good defensively."

I used to be bewildered when Bryan McCabe and Sheldon Souray, for example, would be touted as being good defensively.

Somewhere along the line people somehow equated offensive defenseman with being soft guys who skate well and defensive defenseman as tough guys who play physically. When tough, physical offensive defensemen began to surface, it's like some people didn't know how to handle it!

 

[ole ole]

Still true, he does have some negatives or big warts, does anyone really believe he doesn't I mean come on now. Still not my first choice by any means, I've stated that. Are we going to ignore his significant health issues or his skating or his defensive play or lack of physical play?

Jets were reported to be after Lindholm, that's who jets wanted and Jets fans wanted, you forgot to add how I said many times Monahan is a plan B move, which clearly he was. My opinion hasn't change 1%, not happy with the 1st rd pick, my max would of been a 2nd. 100% true ya the Jets 2nd which some of us knew wasn't near enough.

 

[BrawlFan]

Brutal grade for jets.

 

[NewtJorden]

Its been quite nice for Montreal. They got a 1st to take Monahan, and now they get a 1st to trade him.

 

[LesCanadiens]

As I said, I watched virtually every game Monahan played as a Montreal Canadien.

If you think he was a "solid" defensive forward for Montreal there's really not much of a discussion to have. We are not even remotely on the same page on what constitutes being good defensively.

Let's just agree to disagree.

Well put. Fair enough.

 

[ole ole]

The 'Monahan isn't worth a 1st' people are still right, he's not (its an overpay), and the people saying montreal should be asking for a 1st are of course right (because someone paid it). Both of these statements can be true, but now they gonna fight it out for 20 pages

Solid work by Montreals GM, Hughes is channeling the ghost of Sam Pollock (possibly the GOAT gm) and habs fans should hope he keeps doing what he is doing

Lots were saying he wasn't getting a 1st.... period. They were wrong period.....
Ya can't change that. PERIOD.

 

[Ducksforcup]

Fair trade for both teams. Great asset management by MTL, but not at all a bad deal by the Jets.

 

[LesCanadiens]

Still true, he does have some negatives or big warts, does anyone really believe he doesn't I mean come on now. Still not my first choice by any means, I've stated that. Are we going to ignore his significant health issues or his skating or his defensive play or lack of physical play?

Jets were reported to be after Lindholm, that's who jets wanted and Jets fans wanted, you forgot to add how I said many times Monahan is a plan B move, which clearly he was. My opinion hasn't change 1%, not happy with the 1st rd pick, my max would of been a 2nd. 100% true

There you go with the "big warts" again. Are you his doctor? Because unless you're talking warts in the medical sense, that we may not be aware of...you fail to list what this BIG warts are. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more solid all round player than Monahan, including major intangibles like character and leadership. You're damn lucky your team obtained him. Frankly, if we weren't rebuilding, we'd def have no interest in losing him if he'd resign.

 

[danisonfire]

Lots were saying he wasn't getting a 1st.... period. They were wrong period.....
Ya can't change that. PERIOD.

It is an annual deadline tradition. The curse of Ryder, Halak and a 3rd.

 

[Hunter368]

I don’t think this is a bad move for Winnipeg at all. Solid player, low first, cheap contract that they can re-up on… what’s not to like here? It’s a solid depth move for a team that’s trying to win.

Some will call it a bad trade, some Jets and some other fans. Me? not excited by it overly (I'm not calling it a bad or good trade, more of a meh trade, pro/cons type of trade), bc he's not the guy the Jets or the fans wanted, we missed out on that guy. Monahan is a plan B, no one ever wants to settle for a plan B guy, especially this year when the Jets have played so well and want to make a big push. Much sooner had Lindholm and resigned him. Monahan is pure rental, nothing more likely which is a negative. Jets need to go out and make 1-2 more trades.