Confirmed Trade: [WPG/MTL] Sean Monahan for 2024 1st round pick and conditional 2027 3rd round pick (Mod warning OP)

[SlafySZN]

Well when you look at it that way you do have a point. These past few years, with the exception of Cole Caufield five years ago, Montreal's drafting has been far from stellar.

We have Slafkovsky, Caufield, Guhle, Struble, Harris in the line up right now.

With guys like Reinbacher, Hutson, Mailloux coming up and others in the AHL.

All drafted in the last 5 years.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

I'm surprised at the return.
Chevy miss the last 5 years?

There must have been a bidding war.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Hughes hasn't given us any reason to believe he would do something so stupid. Not gonna happen.



He's talking about Sean missing them, not the Jets.

In the press conference today, Hughes said that he told Monahan he would trade him at the trade deadline if the Habs is not in a good position to make the playoff and the Habs would be in a position to resign Monahan. So no, Hughes doesn't want to resign Monahan to a long term contract.

 

[HuGort]

Hughes set his price and Jets met it.

Hate to give up Monahan. He's smart player. Good production for his speed.

 

[Hostile Offer]

32nd first round is pretty much a second...

Like 33rd second round is pretty much a first? Anyway kinda hope it will be a 32nd pick (and kinda don't for obvious reasons), Monahan is a good player and was a good vet to have these past two years on a rebuilding Habs team. Hope he gets some success in Winnipeg.

 

[LesCanadiens]

You think Sean Monahan plays defence first? He doesn't play defensively at all. What are you talking about?

His a one-way forward with outstanding face off abilities.

The knocks on Monahan are health, lack of defence and lack of physical play. You read the wrong scouting report if you think Sean's gonna come to Winnipeg with a 200 foot game.

What a crock. Do you watch the games? Monahan has been solid defensively, including killing penalties. I don't care what he was in CGY, it's 100% irrelevant. This questioning Monahans defensive play TODAY is totally in contrast with reality.

 

[tbcwpg]

Not too pressed about this trade from a Jets POV. His defensive issues should be helped a bit by playing a much more structured defensive system. He does things that the current Jets group does not - wins faceoffs and helps the PP. He pushes some players playing above their heads into more natural spots. The 1st isn't that vital, especially considering the Jets own Montreal's 2nd, we could be talking about 10 spots here. Didn't give up any prospects at all which further makes the 1st not a huge loss. Also, who else out there was really available at the C position anyway?

Montreal gets their 1st. Both sides should be happy. Fans love to talk about who wins. Both teams win if they get what they want.

 

[Tanknation]

I said he was worth a 2nd rounder, maybe a bit more. But thought a 1st rounder would only happen if the GM buying him was desperate.

Looks like I was wrong.

Good of you not to be a prick about it. I can see why your fanbase is so well liked.

Sounds like you were the prick and continue to sound like one. How do you expect people to react to your "prickness"

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

Not too pressed about this trade from a Jets POV. His defensive issues should be helped a bit by playing a much more structured defensive system. He does things that the current Jets group does not - wins faceoffs and helps the PP. He pushes some players playing above their heads into more natural spots. The 1st isn't that vital, especially considering the Jets own Montreal's 2nd, we could be talking about 10 spots here. Didn't give up any prospects at all which further makes the 1st not a huge loss. Also, who else out there was really available at the C position anyway?

Montreal gets their 1st. Both sides should be happy. Fans love to talk about who wins. Both teams win if they get what they want.

Because everyone is talking about the Jets first like we're in some dire need of more prospects. If the 20 some first rounder could become a Jet in 5 years from now I would be shocked.

Jets needed a centre who wins draws, plays PP, and can generate some offence. That's what they got

 

[kylbaz]

POsted this in the Jets forum:

Say we pick 27-30th range.
From 2012-2019 here are all the picks in that range:

Henrik Samuelsson
Brady Skjei
Stefan Matteau
Tanner Pearson
Marko Dano
Morgan Klimchuk
Jason Dickinson
Ryan Hartman
Nikolay Goldobin
Josh Ho-Sang
Adrian Kempe
John Quenneville
Jacob Larsson
Anthony Beauvillier
Gabriel Carlsson
Nick Merkley
Brett Howden
Lucas Johansen
Trent Frederic
Sam Steel
Morgan Frost
Shane Bowers
Henri Jokiharju
Eeli Tolvanen
Klim Kostin
Nicolas Beaudin
Nils Lundkvist
Rasmus Sandin
Joe Veleno
Alexander Alexeyev
Nolan Foote
Ryan Suzuki
Brayden Tracey
John Beecher
Ryan Johnson


For those that hating giving up our "first", how many players here would you say are impact players? Now with all the players there, calculate the odds of one actually becoming an impact player.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

The Jets 1st will be in 28-32 range... pretty much as good as a 2nd rounder.

Nice add for Jets. He's got a high IQ and will help the struggling PP

28th ?

You believe the Jets will lose in the 2nd round ?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Thing is, as smugly as it sounds, most Habs fans are a lot more knowledgeable than your standard issued NHL fans on here.

Yeah most of us actually watch other teams since we've had a bottom 1 on ice offensive product for the totality of the 21st century so far At least that's why I started really getting into hockey

 

[Golden_Jet]

Vancouver’s reign as the 2nd best center depth in the NHL was short lived.

Nope, still better

 

[DaPhazz]

Both teams lose.

Jets overpaid and Montreal can’t draft worth crap and it’s not a great draft year anyway

Edgy

 

[pth2]

Thing is, as smugly as it sounds, most Habs fans are a lot more knowledgeable than your standard issued NHL fans on here.

The issue is that there are a lot of us.... which means a small percentage of unrealistic, underinformed people still ends up being a lot compared to other fanbases.

And, as a general rule, the louder the poster, the less informed they are, so that small percentage takes up an inordinate amount of room on boards.

I just wish people would choose to interact more with the reasonable takes and waste less of their cyber-breath on the wackos.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Yet Chevy tied up the 3rd round pick in the conditional add. Which was totally unnecessary as the Jets chances of winning a cup are slim to none. He handcuff'd that pick for no reason when he could use it this TDL.

That 2027 3rd? Isn’t it.

 

[Zalos]

Are people on here aware that Monahan is on pace for 55-60 points and is an ace on faceoffs? Of course he is worth at least a low 1st round pick. Wake up!

 

[Petey O]

Habs fans vindicated. Love it.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Both teams win

Montreal gets a late 1st.

Winnipeg gets a 2 center and still has 5 million in space to get more and they keep their prospects. It’s win win. Monahan fits here long term. I’m sure 55 and 37 are happy.

Jets essentially got Lindholm for just a 1st. They aren’t that far off career points wise. And Monahan paid peanuts. Jets will add another player also. Win win.

 

[Slapshot_11]

I honestly came in here and was confused af why habs and jets fans were talking about their teams in the lindholm thread

I thought for sure monahan could be had without giving up a first.. nice trade for mtl

 

[Tanknation]

You think Sean Monahan plays defence first? He doesn't play defensively at all. What are you talking about?

His a one-way forward with outstanding face off abilities.

The knocks on Monahan are health, lack of defence and lack of physical play. You read the wrong scouting report if you think Sean's gonna come to Winnipeg with a 200 foot game.

You seemed to have read to many bogus posts from ignorant wannabes experts on here. This notion he sucks on D is simply not true. CReated by HF posters to attempt to lower his value when Hab fans were saying he is worth at least a 1st.
This seems to be a common thread about any Habs player on the trade block.

 

[HuGo Sham]

It’s a good move for both teams. The Jets have lots of good prospects they keep - and it will be a late first. I suspect Hughes is going to package that pick anyway for a young forward. Habs have 5, 1st rounders in the next three drafts

 

[pth2]

You seemed to have read to many bogus posts from ignorant wannabes experts on here. This notion he sucks on D is simply not true. CReated by HF posters to attempt to lower his value when Hab fans were saying he is worth at least a 1st.
This seems to be a common thread about any Habs player on the trade block.

It becomes a battle of hyperbole. Someone claims he's good defensively, others say he isn't, louder, his supporters say he is, even louder....

Monahan is no Selke winner, and he shouldn't matchup against high-end dynamic offensive threats, but that doesn't make him terrible defensively, either. Heck, last season the Suzuki line was at its best defensively when he was on it, since he'd backcheck better than his linemates who'd overcommit on offense.

 

[pld459666]

Wow. Good for Montreal.

 

[CTHabsfan]

Well when you look at it that way you do have a point. These past few years, with the exception of Cole Caufield five years ago, Montreal's drafting has been far from stellar.

I think it's way too early to say anything negative about the Canadiens last two drafts. Anything before that would be irrelevant since it was done by prior management.