Confirmed Trade: [WPG/MTL] Sean Monahan for 2024 1st round pick and conditional 2027 3rd round pick (Mod warning OP)

[Cogburn]

Welp, I was wrong. Good on the Canadiens.

Thank you to the Jets management for making me feel so much better about the price to get Lindholm too.

 

[cc]

Jeezus that 16 game winning streak by Edmonton is scaring two Western teams now in overpaying for mid talent

I don't think that's what did it for the Canucks. JR has the reputation for targeting specific players and overpaying for them before the deadline which is exactly what happened. As scary good the Oilers are playing right now, I don't believe it had any impact in their move.

I also believe Chevy made a move in response to what the Canucks did and again, didn't have much to do with the Oilers.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I think fans need to realize that there isn't a single asset that they overrate more than low 1sts.

I get why GMs take them (what else will contenders realistically give up?) so it's fine but they're overrated by fans.

 

[Bond]

Honestly Winnipeg made out like bandits if we take into account the astronomical price Vancouver paid for a rental as well. Monahan has been even more productive than Lindholm and the Peg got him a basically half the cost of Lindholm. Good trade.

Lindholm does a lot of things Monahan doesn't. I think it actually makes the trade for Lindholm look a little worse from Calgary's perspective but more like the 3rd/4th should have been a 2nd lol

 

[Captain97]

They did the same thing with Chiarot not that long ago

Kent Hughes is great at selling and negotaiing a trade but terrible at drafting in the first round

Habs have picked 3 players in the first round under Hughes.

One was the guy projected to go first overall, one was projected to be the first dman taken and went roughly where he should have, and the other was a high skill player taken at 26th overall.

All 3 of these of these players were drafted in the past 20 months. How in the F*** can you say Hughes is good or bad at drafting in the first round with that sample?

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Canucks and Jets are getting better early in the game while Oilers, Knights, Avs, and Stars are standing pat so far. I'm sure somebody is going to be left without a date when the big prom starts.

We did get Perry for free

 

[Wayfarer13]

He could have gotten a better player if he added more value hell he could have went after henrique at 50% for the same package + a little extra and he provides more

Because he went for Monahan he has more flexibility to make another move that maybe needed.

 

[wedge]

I like the fact that we don't retain on Monahan, meaning we could retain in another trade at the deadline to get rid of someone.

 

[General Fanager]

He sure does; Henrique is a better defender and utility player, while being probably 5% less of an offensive force

This isnt 2018 anymore

Monahan makes less than half of the cap hit and is 4 years younger also....just sayin

 

[le_sean]

He sure does; Henrique is a better defender and utility player, while being probably 5% less of an offensive force

This isnt 2018 anymore

You mean the Henrique who has a grand total of 13 playoff points in 28 games all of which came 12 years ago?

 

[Jets92]

I love seeing Montreal fans get so excited for a late pick in an average draft class. With them getting rid of one of their few decent offensive guys, it should help their second rounder we have get even better. At least we can use that second rounder to bring in another piece or keep the pick. Vancouver set the price high during a thin centre market, with a couple more centres available, he wouldn’t fetch a first. I don’t mind the trade though. Monahan will play with solid offensive guys in Ehlers and Perfetti, I think he’ll out perform expectations. Chevy has killed it in trades for the most part, I’ll trust his decision for now.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

FYI, the conditional 3rd is attained by Montreal if Winnipeg wins the Stanley cup in 2024.

 

[Rob Sense]

This is the 3rd time that Winnipeg has traded a 1st for a rental. The picks dealt for Stastny and Hayes were used on Sandin and Heinola respectively.

Odds are that this trade won’t mean much 5 years down the line. Winnipeg probably won’t go deep in the playoffs (based on pure probability). Montreal most likely won’t draft anything meaningful with that pick.

You are probably right...how about you take back the 1st and save us the trouble of finding a worthless player to fill the pick

 

[Michoulicious]

Hughes is a magician, holysh**.

 

[AvroArrow]

Wow great job Montreal. This is a good trade for both sides, but incredible that the Habs got a 1st for taking Monahan and just flipped him for another 1st now, phenomenal GMing right there.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Monahan makes less than half of the cap hit and is 4 years younger also....just sayin

Age is a moot point considering both are UFA-bound this summer

You mean the Henrique who has a grand total of 13 playoff points in 28 games all of which came 12 years ago?

This is irrelevant to how they are playing this season

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Getting 2 firsts for Monahan (one for taking him on, the other in moving him) is f***ing wild.

I mean those picks are going to be Bobrov'd but in terms of asset management, can't really do a whole lot better than that.

 

[shaner8989]

Monahan is a stud. Obviously hurts Mtl and will hurt the dressing room and winning culture but getting a late 1st is a good asset. Nice get for the Jets

 

[Danarqhy]

Lindholm does a lot of things Monahan doesn't. I think it actually makes the trade for Lindholm look a little worse from Calgary's perspective but more like the 3rd/4th should have been a 2nd lol

Sure, Lindholm is better defensively but Monahan has been playing on a bottom 5 dogshit team and still producing. The difference between them is a lot less than many on this board are claiming although Money comes with injury concerns hence why I think this is a pretty fair trade for both sides.

 

[le_sean]

This is irrelevant to how they are playing this season

It isn’t to a GM.

Between two players that produce equally, do I want one that actually produces in the playoffs or not for my team’s playoff run? Hmm tough one.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Agreed, but adding Monahan doesn't get us to the finals, so Chevy better use that cap space and add 1-2 more good pieces or this trade was kind of pointless IMO

The conditional 3rd was a dumb add for the Jets. They won't win the cup regardless and they can't trade the 3rd until next year (after their playoff run is over). ergo. They handcuff'd the 3rd round pick and made it untradable this year.

 

[nyhabsfan]

People criticizing Monahan really don't know what they are talking about.
He has played very well on a team that does NOT have great wingers.
He is healthy and can play in almost any situation.
A first is what the market was set at when Vancouver picked up Lindholm.
It was great asset management from Hughes but the Jets did get stronger.

If you think this was too much now, just wait for trade deadline day!

 

[HighLifeMan]

Great asset management by Hughes.

Really happy for Monahan too.

Not sure why people are shocked. Worse players routinely go for 1st rounders at or approaching the deadline especially when the draft class isn't considered great.

 

[SenzZen]

Would everyone from the other thread prefer their crow medium rare or well done?

 

[DeletedUser539]

Because he went for Monahan he has more flexibility to make another move that maybe needed.

It's not a bad deal as Jets were desperate for center depth but feel they could have gotten a better player adding more assets but he is cheap. Hopefully it works out for both teams