Confirmed Trade: [WPG/MTL] Sean Monahan for 2024 1st round pick and conditional 2027 3rd round pick (Mod warning OP)

[Szechwan]

I acknowledged your post as it was funny, will you return the respect and excuse our hiccup to discuss the new conversation? Who had the better forward crop?

I will!

I'm going to pick the team that is 2g back from the league lead in scoring, and 38 goals ahead of the Jets.

I do like their team though.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Well it's a terrible deal so not too surprising an NHL GM did it in that sense

MTL played the Monahan situation perfectly. Got a first rounder for taking him on and then artificially upped his value with good usage to get another first rounder out of him

Too bad they'll waste their picks like they almost always do. Great trading, though!

They did the same thing with Chiarot not that long ago

Kent Hughes is great at selling and negotaiing a trade but terrible at drafting in the first round

 

[Miller Time]

So happy it wasn't Colorado. Sorry Jets fans.

let's see if this take ages as well as the "monahan won't get a 1st" take once the playoffs work themselves out. As things sit today, Avs, unless they pay the premium Henrique will now require or pay some crazy price to address their G issues, will be in tough matching the Nucks/Jets/Stars/Knights to get out of the West.

 

[Canovin]

Watch montreal GM used those picks in a trade to get a promising young offensive player a la Dach

Maybe Dubois is coming home after all

 

[McDrailers]

I live in a world where Sean Monahan is worth 2 first round picks. The good ol Paul Gausted days.

 

[Whitesnake]

And Here I was told in here that you wouldn't get a 1st for Monahan.....I don't get it. I thought the most brillant minds were in here. Dissapointing.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Eh. Everybody whinging about a first round pick. Enjoy the picking 28th to 32nd.

Still a 1st round pick. Habs fans have been right.

 

[River Meadow]

If Monahan stays healthy he will be worth the pick.

Good ol Canadian boy, Big C who is quite clutch and can do it all in terms of shooting/passing and high IQ.

 

[gojetsgo]

Woof Winnipeg got bent over hard. The 3rd round pick is what he's worth. Imagine having Scheifele as your 1C and Monahan as your 2C. Even Helle can't handle that much rubber. Winnipeg done round 1.

have you watched scheifele this season?

 

[Moose Head]

I'm thinking Kent Hughes had fixed the price at a 1st rounder.... no one was willing to pay it, until the Lindholm deal made other teams think they needed to "counter", and as soon as a firm 1st was possible, the deal got made.

I honestly wonder if he should've been more patient, it's not like there are that many options at center, and a bidding war might have led to an even greater return (at the risk of injury, other teams selling and lowering value through rarity, other teams sustaining injuries and dropping out of big-time buyers, etc.)

I agree, he probably could have got more, but didn’t want to end up with nothing like last season after Monahan was playing equally as well and got injured.

 

[Hunter368]

Seems like a steep price but, if he can buy into Winnipeg's system, this could be huge for us.

I stated in my other post, max I wanted to pay was Habs 2nd (while stating Lindholm was my 1st choice), so the Jets 1st is a bit more then I wanted to pay (but not huge difference, depending where the Jets & Habs finish this year). Having said that, how I view this trade (outside if he can stay healthy) is more so how Chevy uses our cap space now. If Monahan is our only TDL trade, that would be hugely disappointing, a big part of Monahan's value is his tiny cap hit so Chevy better use the rest of our cap space otherwise big part of Monahan trade was pointless. IMO

 

[FrankMTL]

Jets fans will love Monahan. He's a rock solid player and an absolute professional. You can tell just by the fact that Habs fans would re-sign him in a heart beat.

In fact, even with his injury history, there are a lot of Habs fans that would have signed him for 3-4 years.

 

[waitin425]

Hughes is great at trades and I like some of his contractual work too. Put lets wait and see on the draft picks.

Early returns on David Reinbacher are not very promising. I'm rooting for Newhook and Dach, but the book isn't written on their success either. Dach in particular is just so injury prone.

Juraj Slafkovsky has been playing a bit better of late, but he's hardly cemented his place as a 1st line star of the future.

Hughes needs to take his trade wins and convert them to draft day success. And that isn't something he can hang his hat on just yet.

HAHAHAHA, love this.

I'm going to throw a little bone for this obvious move, and then I am going to try and knock Habs fans down a peg or two.

I won't argue each point, as I don't want to hijack this thread from what it currently is.

 

[CanMerc]

This kind of stupid asset management is why WPG won’t win a cup with Chevy in charge. He is the only idiot who would pay that for Monahan.

 

[River Meadow]

Eh. Everybody whinging about a first round pick. Enjoy the picking 28th to 32nd.

I'm sorry, were you expecting a bottom feeder to trade for him?

 

[Bond]

Conroy should have got Lekkermaki or Willander in the context of this trade.
Bandwagoning the Jets now. Monahan was always one of my favourite Flames

 

[Drew Doubty]

And I extended the conversation because your a good poster, and I want to evolve the conversation to “who had the better forward crop”

I'll discuss winger depth: I'd take the Jets wingers 100%.

Connor is the best winger by a bit, and then Boeser and Ehlers are a similar tier. Lindholm, at wing, is probably the 4th best winger, but Vilardi is very close. Perfetti, Nidereitter, and Appleton are a similar group to Joshua, Garland, and Mikheyev in terms of impact, you can throw Suter in that tier too. And then I like offensive upside of Lafferty and Hoglander more than Kupari/Iafallo, but it's a tough call.

So ya, It's close, but I like the combo of Connor/Ehlers more than Boeser/Lindholm and it's the high-end talent which is most important.

 

[AslanRH]

Chevy!?!?!?!?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Not a great market to be looking to boost your roster if a guy like Sean Monahan returns a 1st and a 3rd. I could see if he had a really great value contract for two years after this one, but no, he's a pending UFA.

 

[Paddy17]

Why are the conditions on that 3rd so simple?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Keep the trades coming

 

[Price is Wright]

They did the same thing with Chiarot not that long ago

Kent Hughes is great at selling and negotaiing a trade but terrible at drafting in the first round

Owen Beck and Lane Hutson make up for any weak first round pick selections.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Hughes is great at trades and I like some of his contractual work too. Put lets wait and see on the draft picks.

Early returns on David Reinbacher are not very promising. I'm rooting for Newhook and Dach, but the book isn't written on their success either. Dach in particular is just so injury prone.

Juraj Slafkovsky has been playing a bit better of late, but he's hardly cemented his place as a 1st line star of the future.

Hughes needs to take his trade wins and convert them to draft day success. And that isn't something he can hang his hat on just yet.

Recent news from Reinbacher are very positive and he’s been playing a solid game this pas month and a half.

It’s unfortunate for Dach because he was by far our better player at the end of last season + camp + first game. Hoping for a full recovery and if he can stay healthy he will be our best forward.

Newhook injury is also unfortunate. Good player all around. Top 6 at best but that’s still very valuable to a team.

Slafs have been very good lately. He makes play faster and is actually using his body along the boards instead of reaching with his stick. He’s only 19 but the progression we are seeing from him right now is very noticeable. He’s still ~2 years away from being a force.

 

[McJedi]

HAHAHAHA, love this.

I'm going to throw a little bone for this obvious move, and then I am going to try and knock Habs fans down a peg or two.

I won't argue each point, as I don't want to hijack this thread from what it currently is.

You won't argue them because you know I'm right. Hughes needs some of these draft picks to take the next step, which hasn't happened yet.

I'm not saying it can't or won't. All of them could. We'll find out.

Early returns aren't promising. But plenty of time for that narrative to change. Dach's injury history is very concerning.

 

[Coffee]

I'll discuss winger depth: I'd take the Jets wingers 100%.

Connor is the best winger by a bit, and then Boeser and Ehlers are a similar tier. Lindholm, at wing, is probably the 4th best winger, but Vilardi is very close. Perfetti, Nidereitter, and Appleton are a similar group to Joshua, Garland, and Mikheyev in terms of impact, you can throw Suter in that tier too. And then I like offensive upside of Lafferty and Hoglander does more for me than Kupari/Iafallo, but it's a tough call.

So ya, It's close, but I like the combo of Connor/Ehlers more than Boeser/Lindholm and it's the high-end talent which is most important.

I don’t think it’s close at all, but I respect your post as it doesn’t seem biased