Speculation: Would Andersen clear waivers?

[Pinkfloyd]

Sure, but the fact that they are transitioning into a competitive means having the absolutely deplorable goaltending they have isn't going to work, look at calgary. I think they'd put up the 5mil cap figure considering they were paying Ward more than that since 06'. They'd take Andersen in a heart beat. Putting Andersen in front of Carolinas defense would actually work, considering Carolinas at very least has the ability to be a lot better than toronto's.

That's under the assumption that Carolina is financially in a position to add another 5 million and that's not an assumption I'd make. Also, when they were paying Ward what they did, they were paying guys like Viktor Rask significantly less. Other than Carolina, there's probably only 8 teams out there that could make the room easily to claim Andersen at 5 mil. The other teams I see with that kind of space is Philly, Columbus, Nashville, Edmonton, Ottawa, Florida, New Jersey, and Winnipeg. The only two teams in that group that I see really being willing to think about claiming Andersen at 5 mil is Philly and Nashville but neither are likely to be in a place right now to put in a claim while having Mason at 4 mil for Philly and Rinne at 7 mil for Nashville.

 

[LondonKendrick]

Fans like you are exactly why it's tough playing in Toronto!

What a ridiculous, embarrassing thread.

Wow some fans are just a total joke. Go ahead and waive him when he gets picked up it would be very funny that he cost you those assets.

we do have some stupid fans...

I don't know if this is a testament to how bad the leafs defense is or how good the ducks defense is.


I mean he did co-win the Jennings last year

So grand standing and the question remains

 

[kducks]

You guys really know how to make players feel welcomed don't you? Poor Freddie.

 

[Morgs]

Can't believe this ****.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Not looking for why the Leafs wouldn't grand standing.

Just simply put, would Andersen clear waivers if put on today?

-Edit, things I should of clarified by didn't think I'd have to....

1. Would you want him and that contract on your team for nothing, I get that clearing space is an issue mid season, the question is meant more on how negative is Andersen's value. Asking other fanbases, would you want him for nothing?

2. For people calling panic, there was, myself included a lot of Leaf fans that cringed at this deal from day one and not the least bit surprised by Toskala's, I mean Andersen's failure. Being proven right isn't panicking-

Grow up.

 

[go4hockey]

Not looking for why the Leafs wouldn't grand standing.

Just simply put, would Andersen clear waivers if put on today?

-Edit, things I should of clarified by didn't think I'd have to....

1. Would you want him and that contract on your team for nothing, I get that clearing space is an issue mid season, the question is meant more on how negative is Andersen's value. Asking other fanbases, would you want him for nothing?

2. For people calling panic, there was, myself included a lot of Leaf fans that cringed at this deal from day one and not the least bit surprised by Toskala's, I mean Andersen's failure. Being proven right isn't panicking-

Maybe you should get more than one top 4 defenseman to play in front of him instead of placing all the blame on the goalie. Every goalie would look bad behind that very bad defense your icing.

 

[LondonKendrick]

There is a 0% chance he would clear waivers. An absolute impossibility. He was traded for a 1st round pick 8 games ago as an RFA, with that value full knowing he'd get paid at least 5M. You think his value has gone from a 1st, to absolutely nothing, within 8 games because he went from the best defensive team in hockey to the very worst and he's struggling? Who didn't see that coming (other than biased leaf fans).

Stop. Stop. Stop and do not pass go. Upgrade your defense. The leafs have ONE top four defenseman. ONE. One singular player that could even touch a top-4 of a cup contender, and he'd be slotted into the #4 role. They have no one at the position. Zaitsev looks really promising, Rielly will get much better, but that's 2 players. They have no top 4. Don't say Gardiner, he's earning the 6th most minutes on the worst blueline in hockey. 6th, that is dead last. It's time this widespread consensus of his excellence be ended. I've seen many posts saying he's a "high upside #2", or bonafide #2, bonafide #3. He's none of those things, not even close. Mike Babcock knows it too and it shows.

The goalie has no chance when you're icing one of the worst defenses this sport has ever seen. Worst in the league just doesn't quite cut it for this group. They are just not good. They let in the most goals in the entire league last year, added a Jennings goalie trophy, and are still allowing the most goals per game. That is how bad their D is. The bottom-10 teams in goals against this year are:

Calgary, Toronto, Arizona, Chicago, Philly, Carolina, Boston, Winnipeg, Pittsburgh, Nashville.

They all have significantly better defenses than T.O. It's bad news bears for their defense, so leave the goalie alone for once. The heat he is taking is nothing short of insane.

More granstanding.

So Clarkson was a good signing because the Leafs invested a lot in him?

Trades can't suck if you lose them because you gave up assets?

This maybe the only window to shed Andersen, if even possible.

 

[dracom]

It's easy to blame the new guy instead of realizing the team has some problems that need to be addressed.

 

[AINEC*]

OP please cheer for a different team. Thank you.

 

[LondonKendrick]

So what other fanbase wants him at the contract....

Still waiting....

 

[Vipers31]

More granstanding.

So Clarkson was a good signing because the Leafs invested a lot in him?

Everyone and their dad knew going into free agency that year that Clarkson would be some team's huge mistake. Shockingly close-to-literally everyone knew it, and the Leafs' offer even slightly exceeded the degree of mistake most expected.

There's no parallel to Andersen. He's a capable goalie. Multiple teams wanted to acquire him, not just sign him for free. He's a decent goalie, going through a rough stretch, and with a lack of support to emphasize his current struggles.

Trades can't suck if you lose them because you gave up assets?

They can. But one month of a goalie's play shouldn't be used to completely re-evaluate the player. That would just be a sign of atrocious pro-scouting and management.

 

[Hawksfan2828]

Not looking for why the Leafs wouldn't grand standing.

Just simply put, would Andersen clear waivers if put on today?

-Edit, things I should of clarified by didn't think I'd have to....

1. Would you want him and that contract on your team for nothing, I get that clearing space is an issue mid season, the question is meant more on how negative is Andersen's value. Asking other fanbases, would you want him for nothing?

2. For people calling panic, there was, myself included a lot of Leaf fans that cringed at this deal from day one and not the least bit surprised by Toskala's, I mean Andersen's failure. Being proven right isn't panicking-

One would think LA would be interested...

 

[V13]

Andersen isn't doing any better than Ward or Lack, so no Carolina wouldn't pick him up.

Ward: GP 3; GAA 4.02; Sv% .848
Lack: GP 3; GAA 4.00; Sv% .857
Andersen: GP 5; GAA 4.29; Sv% .851

Toronto and Carolina are in the same boat. Rebuilding. Andersen in order to be a good goalie needs a team like Anaheim. A team that is already competitive not one that is in a rebuild.

Plus, Carolina had Andersen once before as they drafted him the first time and he refused to sign. So no, they wouldn't pick him up.

Not gonna comment on the OP but what the hell happened to Cam Ward ? The guy was solid couple of years ago.

Injuries ? Age ? Was never that good ?

 

[SenzZen]

So what other fanbase wants him at the contract....

Still waiting....

The Leafs.

 

[THall4]

Edmonton, Ottawa, Florida, New Jersey, Winnipeg, and Carolina have the space.

Of those I could see Ottawa and carolina trying to pick him up. Maybe winnipeg too.

Oilers don't need Andersen.

 

[Twist and Shout]

Idiots

 

[GoldiFox]

Everyone and their dad knew going into free agency that year that Clarkson would be some team's huge mistake. Shockingly close-to-literally everyone knew it, and the Leafs' offer even slightly exceeded the degree of mistake most expected.

There's no parallel to Andersen. He's a capable goalie. Multiple teams wanted to acquire him, not just sign him for free. He's a decent goalie, going through a rough stretch, and with a lack of support to emphasize his current struggles.


They can. But one month of a goalie's play shouldn't be used to completely re-evaluate the player. That would just be a sign of atrocious pro-scouting and management.

There is a parallel. Eddie Lack had almost identical numbers before being traded to Carolina. He's been far from the #1 that Canes fans had hoped for.

 

[LondonKendrick]

Everyone and their dad knew going into free agency that year that Clarkson would be some team's huge mistake. Shockingly close-to-literally everyone knew it, and the Leafs' offer even slightly exceeded the degree of mistake most expected.

There's no parallel to Andersen. He's a capable goalie. Multiple teams wanted to acquire him, not just sign him for free. He's a decent goalie, going through a rough stretch, and with a lack of support to emphasize his current struggles.


They can. But one month of a goalie's play shouldn't be used to completely re-evaluate the player. That would just be a sign of atrocious pro-scouting and management.

Want parallels.... Raycroft, Toskala, Bernier....

Sure teams wanted him before he had a massive contract.

Babcock sent Bernier to the minors for playing better than Freddie, putting lipstick on this pig of a contract is Andersen's saving grace right now.

 

[Sojourn]

So what other fanbase wants him at the contract....

Still waiting....

I would imagine that list begins with Toronto. It probably ends there too, since they already have him, and waiving him after a handful of games would be one of the stupidest things that Toronto could possibly do.

 

[Deebo]

They let in the most goals in the entire league last year.

Calgary, Columbus, Arizona, Ottawa and Edmonton gave up more goals than the Leafs last year and Colorado tied them.

 

[LondonKendrick]

I would imagine that list begins with Toronto. It probably ends there too, since they already have him, and waiving him after a handful of games would be one of the stupidest things that Toronto could possibly do.

If we're keeping score, so far it's one suggestion of Carolina but that has also been disputed.

 

[VanTampaFan]

Leafs fans actually kill me. It's like watching videos of Trump supporters.

 

[Brock Radunske]

With how arrogant the OP is being, I'm shocked this isn't locked yet.

 

[Sojourn]

If we're keeping score, so far it's one suggestion of Carolina but that has also been disputed.

Have you read the responses? People are still trying to digest how ridiculous it is that the question is even being asked.

 

[Dustin]

Bahahahaha. Such a terrible thread.

I guess Ekblad should be waived too. I mean look at his start, oh and Boone Jenner too. I mean it's unreasonable to expect some players will have a slow start right? Every single player on every single team has to be good right from the get go......