GDT: World Junior Championships 2013 - Discussion II

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Remember a lot of Kane's success on the stat sheets was because of his chemistry with his linemates. Drouin is skilled enough to put point totals like that with the right linemates IMO. To put a line with chemistry like that is no easy task though.
 
Lol.... So I guess only the people who made the treck to Ufa can comment on any of these players? Cause rnh looks pretty good, I'd say one of the best but I'm watching him on tv so what do I know?

As for rielly he looks average today, last couple games he looked real good but today he is having an off game.

No, that's not what I'm saying at all :laugh:. I'm saying projecting Drouin's NHL point totals for next year based on watching this one game on television might not be that useful.

I didn't think that larger sample sizes and in person viewings being really important in prospect evaluations were such controversial ideas.
 
I don't see a kid as dominant as Kane was at the same age, no. And I don't know how anyone can say they do. I saw Kane live more than most that don't live in London, as a Spits season ticket holder that year.

You can't spin it. There's no way Drouin produces points like that, not even with the "best prospect since Crosby" on his line. Kane was a machine.

I guess you're chirping everyone in the hockey world then? Finns were picked to medal by just about everyone.

You love to go back and quote things, why don't you go back and show me where I said they would win it.... I'll wait.

Medal contender....yes, winner I do not believe that most predicted that they would win one. Canada, Russia, and USA were also considered Medal contenders.
 
Remember a lot of Kane's success on the stat sheets was because of his chemistry with his linemates. Drouin is skilled enough to put point totals like that with the right linemates IMO. To put a line with chemistry like that is no easy task though.

Could be argued JMc. He is with Nate on the wing in halifax due to chemistry, but he can easily center their second line alone, which the coaches have decided against. He has still strength, defensive and conditioning to go before he hits the bigs.
 
Dude...I've been pumping Drouin since day one but he has not made impact similar to Kane in the juniors. Not even close. One is an NHL star and has established himself, however Drouin is still in the juniors and has quite a bit to go before he hits the bigs.

Dude, this draft at the top is better than the 12 draft, it is not a leap or a stretch to project these players as NHL stars one day.

You don't think Rielly is going to be a star with the Leafs one day? This is not like saying a 2nd rd or low 1st is going to be a NHL star one day.

Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin are going to be NHL stars, anyone with an educated eye for hockey can project this. The only thing that needs to be identified is just how good, but I am comfortable saying they will be stars, and in some cases maybe elite stars. Hardly an exaggeration.
 
Dude...I've been pumping Drouin since day one but he has not made impact similar to Kane in the juniors. Not even close. One is an NHL star and has established himself, however Drouin is still in the juniors and has quite a bit to go before he hits the bigs.

Ya no kidding. The hype of Drouin is completely insane. He will be EXTREMELY lucky to be as good as Kane. Anyone that would take Drouin before Kane (being 24) are not very smart.
 
Medal contender....yes, winner I do not believe that most predicted that they would win one. Canada, Russia, and USA were also considered Medal contenders.

that's what I meant, be in the medal round and contending.
the commentators here agree.
 
Dude, this draft at the top is better than the 12 draft, it is not a leap or a stretch to project these players as NHL stars one day.

You don't think Rielly is going to be a star with the Leafs one day? This is not like saying a 2nd rd or low 1st is going to be a NHL star one day.

Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin are going to be NHL stars, anyone with an educated eye for hockey can project this. The only thing that needs to be identified is just how good, but I am comfortable saying they will be stars, and in some cases maybe elite stars. Hardly an exaggeration.

You have no idea if they will be stars. High draft picks do not always turn out.
 
Dude, this draft at the top is better than the 12 draft, it is not a leap or a stretch to project these players as NHL stars one day.

You don't think Rielly is going to be a star with the Leafs one day? This is not like saying a 2nd rd or low 1st is going to be a NHL star one day.

Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin are going to be NHL stars, anyone with an educated eye for hockey can project this. The only thing that needs to be identified is just how good, but I am comfortable saying they will be stars, and in some cases maybe elite stars. Hardly an exaggeration.

Daigle, Brian Lawton, Svitov, Stefan....

What did they all have in common?

Yeah, they were gonna be stars too. There are no guarantees.
 
Dude, this draft at the top is better than the 12 draft, it is not a leap or a stretch to project these players as NHL stars one day.

You don't think Rielly is going to be a star with the Leafs one day? This is not like saying a 2nd rd or low 1st is going to be a NHL star one day.

Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin are going to be NHL stars, anyone with an educated eye for hockey can project this. The only thing that needs to be identified is just how good, but I am comfortable saying they will be stars, and in some cases maybe elite stars. Hardly an exaggeration.

Ya no kidding. The hype of Drouin is completely insane. He will be EXTREMELY lucky to be as good as Kane. Anyone that would take Drouin before Kane (being 24) are not very smart.

Daigle, Brian Lawton, Svitov, Stefan....

What did they all have in common?

Yeah, they were gonna be stars too. There are no guarantees.

Ill let Ernie and Kadri43 do my talking.

Nothing is ever guaranteed.
 
Could be argued JMc. He is with Nate on the wing in halifax due to chemistry, but he can easily center their second line alone, which the coaches have decided against. He has still strength, defensive and conditioning to go before he hits the bigs.

I doubt they have the same chemistry that Kost, Gagner, and Kane did. Most impressive line I've seen play in junior. With the right linemates players can put up crazy totals in junior.

Just to be clear I'm not saying Drouin is as good as Kane was. Kane was unbelievable. Drouin is great, but not Kane level.



Canada :)

Another great game from Subban
 
Dude, this draft at the top is better than the 12 draft, it is not a leap or a stretch to project these players as NHL stars one day.

You don't think Rielly is going to be a star with the Leafs one day? This is not like saying a 2nd rd or low 1st is going to be a NHL star one day.

Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin are going to be NHL stars, anyone with an educated eye for hockey can project this. The only thing that needs to be identified is just how good, but I am comfortable saying they will be stars, and in some cases maybe elite stars. Hardly an exaggeration.

In this situation you can't use speculation as a basis for your argument. This is a ridiculous post.
 
First game I watched fully and I agree with the fact that Reilly is extremely underused. So is Mackinnon imo. Either way great game against the Russians.
 
Rielly has yet to be on the ice for a goal against in this tourney, I think he was a +1 today as well. He fanned on that pass early, but the puck looked like it was bouncing on everyone today...

Rielly needs to be on that top PP unit IMHO. How many games do we have to with Murphy getting zero, yes ZERO points with every chance to succeed.
 
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