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World Cup of Hockey to Return (Feb 2024)

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WarriorofTime said:
I'll take Ovechkin playing over you watching any day of the week.
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@Gold Standard is a good guy and he knows his hockey but he's what's known in medical terms as a "grump". ;)

WarriorofTime said:
Just let Russia play, call them something else if you are worried that having a team called "Russia" somehow means support for Putin and his War. Ovechkin should get one more chance to represent Russia before his career ends.


I'll take Ovechkin playing over you watching any day of the week.
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It will be O.V.'s last kick at the can, so call it "Team O.V.". They can rally around their best player (ever).
 
Trying to shoe-horn a bunch of russian players into a non-russian team with other europeans would make it a gimmick tournament, just like 2016 was. IMO, best to keep anything in 2024 strictly to national teams, excluding russia. Should provide good entertainment regardless of russia's involvement.
 
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Conspiracy Theorist said:
There's never been more parity in international hockey than today so it would be nice to have all the top teams present.
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It used to be a big 7 with Slovakia and czechs both strong. They both fell off the map and now it's a big 5. So I'd say less parity then 20 years ago
 
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Czechs, Finns, Swedes and France said they would not allow KHL players to represent them this year. Slovakia has said they will allow the KHL players to represent them.
 
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Czechboy said:
Czechs, Finns, Swedes and France said they would not allow KHL players to represent them this year. Slovakia has said they will allow the KHL players to represent them.
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I dont think they can afford losing guys like Rybar, Kristof, Jaros and Liska so I dont blame them. Luckily we only have Pulkkinen, who never showed up on national team anyway.
 
Lartsaman said:
I dont think they can afford losing guys like Rybar, Kristof, Jaros and Liska so I dont blame them. Luckily we only have Pulkkinen, who never showed up on national team anyway.
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Might be missing the point a bit by the federation.
 
ORRFForever said:
I'm sure they will find a way to include them. Perhaps under another team name - like they do at the Olympics. Team United Nations?

People want to see O.V. and the other Russian stars.
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If they will find a way to include them, the tournament will be boycotted by Finland, Czechia, Slovakia, Sweden. Latvia etc.

Have a nice tourney then - why not invite Belarus, China and North Korea and enjoy a "World Cup" with pariah states;))
 
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Here are the "World Cup" round robin groups for those of you that really want to see russians participating:

Group A:
CAN NHL players who don't care what happens in Europe
Belarus
China

Group B:
USA NHL players who don't care what happens in Europe
Russia
North Korea
 
ORRFForever said:
Really? I'm surprised.
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If you're surprised, I feel sorry for you.

Btw since it's Sept 11 today - was it a surprise to you that the 9/11 attack had severe consequences?

putin's aggression vs Ukraine has already at least 10 times more people killed than the 9/11 attack
 
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THE JAM said:
If you're surprised, I feel sorry for you.

Btw since it's Sept 11 today - was it a surprise to you that the 9/11 attack had severe consequences?

putin's aggression vs Ukraine has already at least 10 times more people killed than the 9/11 attack
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No need to be smarmy with your response.

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I'd be surprised if players from Sweden, Finland and other nations objected to O.V. and other Russian players having their own team - assuming it was not named Russia.
 
There is one possibility to have a Russia team participating in a World Cup best-on-best:
Team Russia with players explicitly stating that they disapprove putin's attack on Ukraine.

Unfortunately, I have not seen or heard too many russian NHL players clearly saying that...
 
THE JAM said:
There is one possibility to have a Russia team participating in a World Cup best-on-best:
Team Russia with players explicitly stating that they disapprove Putin's attack on Ukraine.
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That's fair.

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The World Cup is a joint NHL / NHLPA venture and the NHLPA represents ALL NHL players so I doubt they will agree to a tournament unless the Russian players can play - even if it is under another name.
 
ORRFForever said:
That's fair.

*******

The World Cup is a joint NHL / NHLPA venture and the NHLPA represents ALL NHL players so I doubt they will agree to a tournament unless the Russian players can play - even if it is under another name.
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Yea no.. Theres not change Russia will be allowed to play in World Cup if it isnt allowed in IIHF events and countries like Finland Sweden Czech etc would option not to play againts them. Maybe not players but federations etc media pressure would be huge to boycott.
 
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moropanov said:
Yea no.. Theres not change Russia will be allowed to play in World Cup if it isnt allowed in IIHF events and countries like Finland Sweden Czech etc would option not to play againts them. Maybe not players but federations etc media pressure would be huge to boycott.
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We'll see.
 
ORRFForever said:
Does anyone really think the NHLPA would agree to a tournament where certain players were banned?
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If the Russians are still banned do you really think that the Finnish, Swedish and Czech Ice Hockey Federations will sign off on that and agree to play in a NHL/NHLPA tournament if it includes the Russians? They won't. You might as well accept that simple fact right now.
 
Gold Standard said:
If the Russians are still banned do you really think that the Finnish, Swedish and Czech Ice Hockey Federations will sign off on that and agree to play in a NHL/NHLPA tournament if it includes the Russians? They won't. You might as well accept that simple fact right now.
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If the NHL does attempt take a cue from the Russian Olympic Committee team and go with team Consisting of Russian Athletes Panel, I wouldn't be shocked if some federations singled out Ovechkin specifically as an issue given his blatant boosting of Putin. I would guess that Russia not involved is most likely, followed by a made up Russian team not called Russia, and Russia actually being in the tournament a distant third.
 
JackSlater said:
If the NHL does attempt take a cue from the Russian Olympic Committee team and go with team Consisting of Russian Athletes Panel, I wouldn't be shocked if some federations singled out Ovechkin specifically as an issue given his blatant boosting of Putin. I would guess that Russia not involved is most likely, followed by a made up Russian team not called Russia, and Russia actually being in the tournament a distant third.
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Check out Julia Davis report today in twitter @juliadavisnews. It's 7 minutes of classic Russian. don't worry, subtitles are provided.
 
ORRFForever said:
Does anyone really think the NHLPA would agree to a tournament where certain players were banned?
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There is no way Russians are playing. Look at what happened to Slovaks for saying they'll allow a few Slovaks from khl to play for national team. The blowback would be massive.

I can't think of any sports where Russia is competing as a team today under Russia or a fake paeudoname... Not in tennis, soccer, basketball, vball... Just the individuals. But if Czechs, Swedes and Finn's won't play their own players that are in khl... I don't see them lining up against them either.
 
Czechboy said:
There is no way Russians are playing. Look at what happened to Slovaks for saying they'll allow a few Slovaks from khl to play for national team. The blowback would be massive.

I can't think of any sports where Russia is competing as a team today under Russia or a fake paeudoname... Not in tennis, soccer, basketball, vball... Just the individuals. But if Czechs, Swedes and Finn's won't play their own players that are in khl... I don't see them lining up against them either.
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I'll bet you a shiny loonie the Russian players play under another name.
:cheers:
 
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