WC: Women's World Championships in Finland

[Lepardi]

Well, let me ask, what constitutes "in the crease"? How much of the goalie has to be in the crease?

I don't know. I tried to find it in the rulebook but I didn't. I thought you had the answer.

 

[Al Camino]

That just set the woman’s game back 15 years

 

[c9777666]

Outside of today and Sweden at the 2006 olympics, that is as close as we have ever come to true parity in women’s hockey.

Alas, it feels like the gap instead of shrinking just widened.

It is as if these 2 teams truly will never lose gold.

 

[Albatros]

Why irrelevant? Doesn't incidental contact with the goalie in the crease mean no goal?

If the attacking skater is in the crease.

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Beneficiaries of a bad call. It’s almost as if apparently they and Canada are never allowed to lose to anyone else

Again, nothing to do with the players.

They showed class. They barely even celebrated. Even as the Finnish fans were raining boos down on them.

Per the rule, the Finns were beneficiaries of that bad call and got a gift PP. They couldn’t convert.

 

[Sanf]

Also, Rule 184(iii):
If a goaltender is outside his goal crease and an attacking skater prevents the goaltender from returning to his crease or prevents the goaltender from playing his position properly while a goal is scored, the goal will not count and the attacking skater will be assessed a minor penalty for interference.

Judging by this, Finland should be glad they came out of it with a power play and not 3-on-3, or killing a penalty

This is how I remember it. As a somewhat goalie and goalie observer that seemed pretty clear goalie interferance.

 

[JJTT]

Wasn't IIHF supposed to move to continuous overtime instead of shootout in the finals?

 

[Backyard Hockey]

I fear we’re gonna look back in 10 years at this like “Remember the one time Canada or the US almost did not win gold?” As we bemoan the predictability of a sport where apparently parity does not exist as the US and Canada win like the next 40 gold medals

You are giving to much credit to the memory of the average human. Almost everyone on the planet - including all of us on this thread - will have forgotten this by tomorrow evening

And women’s hockey will go back to pool play being silly and the US and Canada playing in every goal medal game.

 

[eggroll]

I don't know. I tried to find it in the rulebook but I didn't. I thought you had the answer.

My basis is the fact that she had one skate still in the crease. It seemed as though there was some belief that she wasn't in the crease because at the ice-level, her knees are out of the crease, but one of her skates is still over the crease, though not physically touching it. So, the rule I'm looking at is the one that defines the crease as a 3-dimensional space, up to the level of the goal crossbar.
Now, if the definition of "in the crease" requires 2 skates, then I'm wrong.

 

[bluesfan94]

The ref lifted her arm before she even realized Finland had scored.

Exactly. It was interference immediately. The goal didn't matter.

My basis is the fact that she had one skate still in the crease. It seemed as though there was some belief that she wasn't in the crease because at the ice-level, her knees are out of the crease, but one of her skates is still over the crease. So, the rule I'm looking at is the one that defines the crease as a 3-dimensional space, up to the level of the goal crossbar.
Now, if the definition of "in the crease" requires 2 skates, then I'm wrong.
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there isn't a definition, at least that I could find.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Again, nothing to do with the players.

They showed class. They barely even celebrated. Even as the Finnish fans were raining boos down on them.

Per the rule, the Finns were beneficiaries of that bad call and got a gift PP. They couldn’t convert.

The contact was judged to be initiated by Riggsby. It was called tripping for 2 mins.

Refs f***ed up the call.

First time ever I feel a protest like this might actually have a small chance.

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Well, the Finnish player did trip as she was running over the US goalie.

It’s women’s hockey. They trip like 10 times on every shift.



Sorry, couldn’t refuse!

 

[FiLe]

Finland winning would have been nice, sure. But somehow this result is even better, when you think it from the perspective of the story alone. Premature gold medal celebrations, a bizarre disallowed goal, then that Tapani ringette brainfart as the cherry on top.

You never want to lose. But if you have to, this was one spectacular way to lose.

 

[eggroll]

Exactly. It was interference immediately. The goal didn't matter.

there isn't a definition, at least that I could find.

Which definition, for how much of the goalie in the crease, or the crease being a 3-dimensional space?

 

[c9777666]

You are giving to much credit to the memory of the average human. Almost everyone on the planet - including all of us on this thread - will have forgotten this by tomorrow evening

And women’s hockey will go back to pool play being silly and the US and Canada playing in every goal medal game.

Which is why today was bad. I fear we may never again get a gold medal game involving someone else outside today and Sweden ‘06.

IIHF apparently hates parity

 

[Backyard Hockey]

Rigged game.

Yes. Because a sport that no one cares about, with a game played by a team in their home country, play by sport guys is desperately in need of other nations/teams besides US and Canada surely would be rigged for one of the two powerhouse teams to win.

If the game were rigged, it would be an absolute no brainer to rig it FOR Finland

 

[c9777666]

Finland winning would have been nice, sure. But somehow this result is even better, when you think it from the perspective of the story alone. Premature gold medal celebrations, a bizarre disallowed goal, then that Tapani ringette brainfart as the cherry on top.

You never want to lose. But if you have to, this was one spectacular way to lose.

How better? If anything, this result just makes it seem like apparently nobody else will ever win women gold.

Last year, the US women’s hockey team were heroes.

Today, they come off as tainted and lucky

 

[Canuckistani]

It's as if the IIHF got together and decided to come up with a way to destroy interest in the women's game for the next decade or so.

 

[Lepardi]

Exactly. It was interference immediately. The goal didn't matter.

Once she realized the puck was in the net, she took her arm back down and signalled a goal with it. Why did she do that if her intention was to penalize Finland?

 

[Lambo]

USA+IIHF are working together!

 

[c9777666]

It's as if the IIHF got together and decided to come up with a way to destroy interest in the women's game for the next decade or so.

IIHF apparently does not want any other country to ever win gold outside of these two

 

[Backyard Hockey]

That just set the woman’s game back 15 years

That’s the beauty of people not caring about the women’s game. This will be forgotten 10 minutes from now.

The two same teams playing for gold every tournament and regular 8-0 pool play/semi results do more to set the women’s game back and kill interest.

 

[bluesfan94]

Which definition, for how much of the goalie in the crease, or the crease being a 3-dimensional space?

The former

 

[ebergeist]

Painful loss indeed. Well, this is the reality of sports sometimes. Congrats to the us national team.

 

[c9777666]

That’s the beauty of people not caring about the women’s game. This will be forgotten 10 minutes from now.

The two same teams playing for gold every tournament and regular 8-0 pool play/semi results do more to set the women’s game back and kill interest.

Which is why I worry that the next’s women’s WHC will be back to normal and this was a one time shot.

“The year is 2050. USA and Canada have still won every women’s gold. Finland came as close as anyone in 2019, but the lack of parity reigns in a sport that is defined by hegemony.”