WC: Women's World Championships in Finland

[Fabs]

Well I don't care for that call at all. The US goalie was at least as much out of the crease than she was in it (if not moreso) and contact was made well out of the crease. Anyway a quick look at the rulebook shows 2 rules for incidental and intentional contact outside of the crease. Incidental results in no penalty and goal is allowed. Intentional results in a penalty and goal disallowed.

However you want to look at it no penalty was called on the Finn, but also no goal. Seems like a screw up either way.

 

[Al Camino]

Can someone explain how you can have no goal and a Finland power play? It seems to me it’s either a delayed penalty on USA goalie and the goal would stand, or no goal because of goalie interference and USA on the power play or no penalty and the goal stands. In what kind of universe does that result in no goal and a Finland power play

 

[Mestaruus]

Well I don't care for that call at all. The US goalie was at least as much out of the crease than she was in it (if not moreso) and contact was made well out of the crease. Anyway a quick look at the rulebook shows 2 rules for incidental and intentional contact outside of the crease. Incidental results in no penalty and goal is allowed. Intentional results in a penalty and goal disallowed.

However you want to look at it no penalty was called on the Finn, but also no goal. Seems like a screw up either way.

Indeed, intentional or incidental that's what allowing or disallowing the goal comes down to.

It didn't seem that intentional to me.

 

[Beerfish]

Can someone explain how you can have no goal and a Finland power play? It seems to me it’s either a delayed penalty on USA goalie and the goal would stand, or no goal because of goalie interference and USA on the power play or no penalty and the goal stands. In what kind of universe does that result in no goal and a Finland power play

You can't explain the unexplainable but i am sure some knob official will come with a reason why it happened like it did.

 

[jonu]

Apparently the referees thought it was a goal and interference penalty for goalie, but video ref thought it is goalie interference so the goal did not stand.


Also apparently you can't protest

 

[ijuka]

You can't explain the unexplainable but i am sure some knob official will come with a reason why it happened like it did.

Well, it likely is that you can't reassign penalties based on challenges. That is, the goalie tripping call was made. The challenge was about goalie interference, that isn't able to change the original penalty.

So basically, it makes no sense but probably is by the rulebook.

 

[Albatros]

Can someone explain how you can have no goal and a Finland power play? It seems to me it’s either a delayed penalty on USA goalie and the goal would stand, or no goal because of goalie interference and USA on the power play or no penalty and the goal stands. In what kind of universe does that result in no goal and a Finland power play

Yup. Either there was goaltender interference or a goal, but no interference penalty and no goal is not a thing the way things unfolded.

The tripping call made it even more absurd, but technically you could call goaltender interference and tripping in the same situation so it's not really a part of the equation.

 

[clevelandcane]

I'm glad the US won because they were, by far, the best team. However, I feel really bad for Finland. That was a really tough call to accept.

I see why Finland thought it was a good goal. I see why the US thought it was interference.

Sucks that that call was the game.

I still have to watch the last 8 minutes and the shootout as my dang DVR only taped 3 hours.

Congratulations to both teams on a fun game.

 

[New User Name]

Yeah, you'd think they were Finnish announcers with their reactions. Granted, they've been confused the entire game. It's probably one of the worst announced games I've ever heard.

My favorite part is when he was losing his mind in the 3rd period when Raty gloved a Keller slapshot from way out with no traffic. If you hadn't seen the play, you'd think she'd just made the hockey (men's or women's) save of the year. It was the most pedestrian save ever and probably one of Raty's easiest of the game.

almost as bad as watching some of those ncaa announcers

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

I'm glad the US won because they were, by far, the best team. However, I feel really bad for Finland. That was a really tough call to accept.

I see why Finland thought it was a good goal. I see why the US thought it was interference.

Sucks that that call was the game.

I still have to watch the last 8 minutes and the shootout as my dang DVR only taped 3 hours.

Congratulations to both teams on a fun game.

USA if any team knows how crucial some reffing calls can be.
If you haven't forgotten USA's 1st goal vs Finland in U20 WJC's gold medal game was disallowed by goalie interference.
And it was as clear goal like Finland's overtime goal in this game.

But this time hockey gods decided take that call back and now Finland lost gold medal.
Sometimes hockey and sport isn't fair.

PS personally i don't care at all on that Finland lost gold medal ( i don't watch women's hockey).
But congrats anyway to USA.

 

[Chrisinroch]

Thanks, but as an American, I say “Congratulations, Soumi”. They won the game.

 

[NyQuil]

OMG what a terrible review.

 

[Lepardi]

I think Noora Räty should be pretty high when they vote for the Finnish athlete of the year about nine months from now. Had Finland won gold, she could have even challenged Lauri Markkanen who's the frontrunner in my books right now. Sometimes the journalists vote for entire teams even though it's principally an individual award, but when Finland is playing Canada or USA, Räty is the team.

 

[Jussi]

Finnish hockey federation chairman and CEO clarified the IIHF decision making afterwards. The on ice referees saw that Rigsby had fouled Hiirikoski and allowed the goal. The video refs saw it as interference (which was a bit odd as Rigsby lunged herself at Hiirikoski)and disallowed the goal. According to CEO Nurminen, it seems that each team gets another time out AND a challenge in overtime. The rules do not allow for a protest.

 

[Jussi]

I think Noora Räty should be pretty high when they vote for the Finnish athlete of the year about nine months from now. Had Finland won gold, she could have even challenged Lauri Markkanen who's the frontrunner in my books right now. Sometimes the journalists vote for entire teams even though it's principally an individual award, but when Finland is playing Canada or USA, Räty is the team.

Iivo Niskanen. Bronze from the World Championships. Hockey teams still have a chance though. And if Pukki Party continues in the Premiership next season, maybe him.

 

[Lepardi]

Finnish hockey federation chairman and CEO clarified the IIHF decision making afterwards. The on ice referees saw that Rigsby had fouled Hiirikoski and allowed the goal. The video refs saw it as interference (which was a bit odd as Rigsby lunged herself at Hiirikoski)and disallowed the goal.

And the rules probably don't allow you to cancel the original tripping penalty based on video review, or to penalize the Finnish player for interference based on video review. I just took a walk and figured this might be the explanation they give, and it sounds like pretty good reasoning to me. They certainly couldn't say that everything went as it should have.

 

[eggroll]

Finnish hockey federation chairman and CEO clarified the IIHF decision making afterwards. The on ice referees saw that Rigsby had fouled Hiirikoski and allowed the goal. The video refs saw it as interference (which was a bit odd as Rigsby lunged herself at Hiirikoski)and disallowed the goal. According to CEO Nurminen, it seems that each team gets another time out AND a challenge in overtime. The rules do not allow for a protest.

Yeah, doesn't seem there was any way the Finnish player could have avoided contact, but still considered incidental on her part I guess.

 

[Lepardi]

Iivo Niskanen. Bronze from the World Championships.

I really think he should have won gold to compete with what Markkanen is doing, but then again I'm not nearly as old as most of the people voting and I mostly follow North American sports leagues, so my biases might be very different from theirs.

And if Pukki Party continues in the Premiership next season, maybe him.

I highly doubt he'll do anything close to what he's done in the Championship if Norwich is promoted.

Oliver Helander might also have his say.

 

[David OSullivan]

God I hate when things like this happen in sport. For me, US are better team but 100% Finland won this game and the gold medal. Just sucks.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Anyone have a video of the goal that was waived off?

 

[canuck2010]

Ouch! Just saw a replay. Not the call I would have made. No interference, collusion or obstruction.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Ouch! Just saw a replay. Not the call I would have made. No interference, collusion or obstruction.

collusion is f***ing right

 

[Albatros]

Yeah, doesn't seem there was any way the Finnish player could have avoided contact, but still considered incidental on her part I guess.

Outside the crease that is not enough though.

"An attacking skater who makes incidental contact with a goaltender out of his goal crease while both try to gain possession of the puck will not be penalized. If a goal is scored at this time, the goal will count."

 

[tucker3434]

Saw the highlights during intermission. Seems reasonable to me to waive that goal off. Don’t really understand the uproar over it.

 

[AmericanDream]

I still have no clue what the f*** happened lol...What a heartbreaking turn of events on the ice, to go from jubilation that you won to then have to go back to the ice after a 10 minute review delay for some bullshit call, THEN fight through the remainder of OT and lose in the shootout...Finland played a great game, I still can't get over how that all went down. Shame.

Americans played a very strong game, they did deserve to win, but I am sure not like that.