Yeah hopefully they take that rule off so the goaltender can just go and hit players wherever they want and get a bogus call. Would be excellent for the game of hockey.
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No, the penalty was for the goalie, and that's why Finland got the PP after the goal got overruled. Basically refs on ice saw a penalty for the goalie and a good goal, but the video refs saw goalie interference. How the goal got overruled but the penalty did not, makes no sense. It was a farce.
In an universe where the reffing is clueless. That's the universe we live in btw. Zero integrity in that call., but I think it was because video refs overturned the goal on ice and the on ice refs for some reason still gave the penalty to the goalie. So literally you got two sets of refs giving two calls on the situation which were at odds with each other...
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Just saw the replay. That's a goal that should logically count IMO. The goalie had a leg still in the crease, but the contact was well outside the crease, are we now putting the onus on the skaters to avoid goalies when the skater is 2 or 3 feet outside the crease because the goalie may be stretched out with her foot in the crease like a 1st baseman or something? Over a foot outside the crease the goalie shouldn't be immune stretching out for a puck like that. Regardless of what the rules say. That being said the rules are pretty ambiguous, a goalie having a body part in the crease v. the contact occuring int he crease. If the rules were written intended to allow goalies to act like 1st baseman and draw contact 2 feet outisde the crease then I guess it's the right call. A stupid call, but the right one.
2 other talking points to comment on
1. The penalty would have been called on the ice, and not reviewable. Once determined what actually happened(based on dumb rules) they can't revoke the tripping call the ref made on the ice
2. For those couple of people bickering about the goalie possessing the puck thus blowing the play dead, that's clearly not what was called on the ice. Everyone thought it was a goal, including the officials because that's what they called. Even if you believe they did touch the puck, they require you to possess it, they didn't. And even if they did it doesn't matter because that's not reviewable so the goal that was called good on the ice wouldn't be called back for that reason
2 other talking points to comment on
1. The penalty would have been called on the ice, and not reviewable. Once determined what actually happened(based on dumb rules) they can't revoke the tripping call the ref made on the ice
2. For those couple of people bickering about the goalie possessing the puck thus blowing the play dead, that's clearly not what was called on the ice. Everyone thought it was a goal, including the officials because that's what they called. Even if you believe they did touch the puck, they require you to possess it, they didn't. And even if they did it doesn't matter because that's not reviewable so the goal that was called good on the ice wouldn't be called back for that reason
Maybe you aren't allowed to make decisions about penalties based on video review?
The uproar is mostly about the fact that the U.S. goalie got a penalty for trippping and Finland didn't get a penalty. That resulted in a Finland powerplay. If it was goalie interference, there should have been a penalty on Finland and no penalty on USA, resulting in a U.S. powerplay.
So, you score a goal but it gets overturned because you interfered the goalie by letting her trip you. That's just great PR and doesn't look amateurish at all. Especially when the play is reviewed for 10 minutes and then they come up with that beauty. In overtime in a gold medal game. Well done.
Did they show the game-deciding final penalty shot by Finland? Susanna Tapani is a world champion ringette player. Finland has handily beaten Canada in that sport. She decided to try a ringette move in an ice hockey world champioship final shootout. Does that seem amateurish at all to you?
But the penalties arent reviewable, so they were stuck with the calls on the ice.
That last try was so bad that ultimately Finland didn't deserve to win
She's made that move work many times before. Here you can see Tapani dangle in traffic and score a beauty. This was in 2010 when she won her first world championship gold medal as a 17-year-old:
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All Finnish whiners should remember what happened in Vancouver few months ago.
USA's 1st goal vs Finland in U20 WJC gold medal game was disallowed due to ''goalie interference''.
Now hockey gods weren't Finland's side and they decided take that disallowing decision back.
Everyone who watched U20 WJC gold medal and saw USA's disallowed goal should know that IT WAS CLEAR GOAL.
And yes both disallowing decisions ( USA's U20 WJC gold medal medal game powerplay goal and Finland's overtime goal in Women's worlds) WERE BOTH TERRIBLE REFFING MISTAKES.
PS congrats USA.
USA's 1st goal vs Finland in U20 WJC gold medal game was disallowed due to ''goalie interference''.
Now hockey gods weren't Finland's side and they decided take that disallowing decision back.
Everyone who watched U20 WJC gold medal and saw USA's disallowed goal should know that IT WAS CLEAR GOAL.
And yes both disallowing decisions ( USA's U20 WJC gold medal medal game powerplay goal and Finland's overtime goal in Women's worlds) WERE BOTH TERRIBLE REFFING MISTAKES.
PS congrats USA.
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Rigsby didn't jump after the puck, though. She leaned down to try to cover it, and was plowed out of the way by the Finnish player. She would have been in perfect position to save the follow up shot if she wasn't dragged out of the way.
So I read somewhere earlier there was some serious crazy controversy in the Women's WC final, and briefly thought to myself "Meh, how controversial could it really have been? These things are always overblown."
Finally watched some clips... May gawd!
Everything about that was worse than I could have imagined. From Finland thinking they had won and full on celebrating, the week long review, actually overturning the goal
, and finally Finland ultimately losing in a shootout... Just awful.
As unlikely as it probably is, I hope Finland wins it all the next time out.
Finally watched some clips... May gawd!
Everything about that was worse than I could have imagined. From Finland thinking they had won and full on celebrating, the week long review, actually overturning the goal, and finally Finland ultimately losing in a shootout... Just awful.As unlikely as it probably is, I hope Finland wins it all the next time out.
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That was probably the most absurd call I've ever seen following this sport for decades.
The goalie fumbles the puck, lunges forward trying to catch it, initiates the contact with the Finnish forward well outside the crease who was doing all she could to avoid the contact, the puck goes straight to Finnish player who scores. The review takes 30 f***ing minutes, and they somehow inexplicably find a goalie interference there so the goal is disallowed yet they also somehow give the goalie a tripping penalty? What?
What an absolute shit show. This really does set women's hockey back for at least a decade. Supposed to be the World Championship but is total bush league (no pun intended).
The goalie fumbles the puck, lunges forward trying to catch it, initiates the contact with the Finnish forward well outside the crease who was doing all she could to avoid the contact, the puck goes straight to Finnish player who scores. The review takes 30 f***ing minutes, and they somehow inexplicably find a goalie interference there so the goal is disallowed yet they also somehow give the goalie a tripping penalty? What?
What an absolute shit show. This really does set women's hockey back for at least a decade. Supposed to be the World Championship but is total bush league (no pun intended).
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Hayley Wickenheiser should shut the f*** up she's just bitter about USA being the superior hockey nation, BOO HOO HOO. USA hockey just too strong, deal with it.
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You’ve mentioned Sweden in 2006 like a half dozen times. I’d wager you and the players from the Swedish team are the only people on Earth who remember that
Heck most of the players on the Swedish team probably don’t remember it.
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It’s consistent with everyone’s opinion of women’s hockey (sports). The perception - reality perhaps - is that is in an inferior product. As compared to the men’s game, it is.
It would make sense to have inferior referees. The referees were terrible all game. Out of their element.
Why is it mandatory to have female refs for the tourney? How many games do they ref? How much experience do they have?
There are bunch of NHL, AHL, NCAA and international male referees that are not reffing post season games.
I get it. Girl power and all that. The broadcast on NHL Network (and TSN intermissions) went HEAVY on the ‘promote the game’ and ‘idols to look up to for the next wave of young girl skaters’ thing.
So, if the goal is to put a better product on the ice and promote the game globally, then get real referees.
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You aren’t reading the rule correctly.
And if the outcome of this silly game is the biggest heartbreak in your life, then you have lived a blessed life.
Or, are you suggesting the outcome of this game - which Finland wasn’t expected to win - is a bigger heartbreak than a miscarriage? Of a pregnancy? Of your child?
What is the Finnish word for ‘perspective’?
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Yes. The male announcer was dreadful. It’s like he was watching another game.
Half of those ‘amazing saves’ were routine glove saves of shots that were going wide anyway.
Almost all of the saves were without any net front presence.
Inferior reffing in the women’s game.
Inferior announcing and analysis.
This is rather according to the NHL rules, according to the IIHF rules decisive is whether the skater is in the crease. If there is incidental contact outside the crease then a goal is to be allowed, goalie having a body part inside is not a factor unlike it may be in the NHL. In the case of obstruction a penalty can be called also if both are outside the crease.
So according to the IIHF rules this call was sort of right (minus the penalty) only if the skater intentionally prevented the goalie from playing position.
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If I was on the Finnish team I would be livid with that selfish shootout attempt. Embarrassing..
She didn't simply lean down to cover it. She batted the puck forward with her blocker, the puck was in the air and she tried to catch it by lunging with her glove but it was out of her reach. After she whiffed on the puck with her glove, she got plowed by the Finnish player who was also going after the puck.
She probably would've been in a good position to make the save, but the contact was initiated by her lunging forward with her glove trying to catch the puck she fumbled away. The contact happened well outside the blue paint and the Finnish player going after the puck tried to avoid the goalie. It was definitely not intentional. That should not be goalie interference.
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