WJC QF: Jan 2 GDT - Sweden vs. Finland

[An Ape called Yoko]

That is not a penalty. That is horrible reffing. Period.

Oh well.. too bad it was Tobias who such a nice kid. I hope he doesn´t suffer too much and realize it wasn´t his fault.

Congrats once again to our neighbours in the east, and gl against Canada.

 

[Riddarn]

As for the players..

Ryno is huuuuge. 6'5? Why do I get a feeling that is a modest estimation rather than his actual height?

Fredrik Pettersson looks hilarious when he skates. He either looks like he's going to fall on his @$$ or that his legs are outskating his torso.

Salmonsson.. I can't believe that he has so much trouble in the WHL. I thought he played great.

Daniel Larsson will play in the SEL in a few years, I'm sure of that. I thought he played very well.

 

[FINNtastic]

People are bagging on Joensuu, but he's been a lot more noticeable since the Canada game. He got pretty involved tonight.

Sure he was involved, too bad he wasn't involved in anything with the puck.
Joensuu has great size, he's a nice skater (for a big guy) and soft hands...BUT I personally was expecting much much more...

 

[FinnswissX]

I'll have a video clip up in a few mins probaly so you all can see and judge yourself. Here's the goal anyway: http://hem.bredband.net/jenslindmark/finland_1-0.mpg

Thank you Jedda for the video link. After seeing it, I'm not sure, if the goal was correct from the Finns, even if I'm cheering for the Finns.

What is quite clear from the shooting statistic is, that your team has been dominating the Finns, but Rask was unbeatable.

I checked the goal again, there have been 3 Swedes around the Finn and it seemed to me that the Finn has been pushed into the crease. Anyway the referee stood very close to them, if something had been wrong, I think he had cancelled the goal.

 

[SChan*]

I am proud of most of the swedes here. No one is desperatley calling the out the fins or so. We're takin the loss as men. That's how I wanted it to be. I have seen too many occasions were we cry and troll the other teams, and that brings more negativity from the other users than good.

More respect to swedish fans this way.

 

[gib]

Finnish D was very good today cleaning the front of the net.

Well that is the only thing you can credit Finnish D and part of that credit goes to our forwrads. They help our D greatly in defensive zone. Our lame D affects also greatly to our offensive play. We can`t create offense, because first passes never get to the forwards. When playing PP our defenders can`t do nothing else than shoot the puck. So easy to predict for opponent.

 

[Noose]

The goal is clean, but actually... Watching the penalty on Viklund again made me think twice and it doesn't look like much of a penalty to me now... Sure, he puts his stick in there, but still it doesn't feel like a penalty. Here's the video: http://hem.bredband.net/jenslindmark/penaltyornot.mpg

That was as much as penalty as the one called on Wirtanen on Finland's PP. I think neither should've been called, but I guess the ref didn't agree with me.

And the goal was clean. Good to see that kinda game deciding goal coming from Finland's side for a change.

Rask was invincible, he deserved the victory. Dunno if Finland did though.

But we're through and bring on Canada.

 

[psycho_dad*]

Well that is the only thing you can credit Finnish D and part of that credit goes to our forwrads. They help our D greatly in defensive zone. Our lame D affects also greatly to our offensive play. We can`t create offense, because first passes never get to the forwards. When playing PP our defenders can`t do nothing else than shoot the puck. So easy to predict for opponent.

Yeah agreed. We do have some good forwards that could actually do damage, but our defense gives them absolutely no help.

also they are the worst that I have seen in clearing the puck on PK. Maybe 1 out of 5 attempts goes out of our zone. That's a nightmare to watch.

 

[Siberian]

Well, I reaaly did not think the Finnish D was good, allowing so many shots on goal just will not cut against teams with finishing skills. Canada should be able to take Finland apart tomorrow.

 

[psycho_dad*]

That was as much as penalty as the one called on Wirtanen on Finland's PP. I think neither should've been called, but I guess the ref didn't agree with me.

Exactly, thats the one I was referring to as well, did not remember who got the penalty in the offensive zone for tripping but that was even worse tripping call. The swedish tripping call was bit more contact, but then again it was in OT. I would not have blown the whistle on either one, but it was this refs way to call this game, and I am happy it was consistant.

 

[Matti_A]

The goal is clean, but actually... Watching the penalty on Viklund again made me think twice and it doesn't look like much of a penalty to me now... Sure, he puts his stick in there, but still it doesn't feel like a penalty. Here's the video: http://hem.bredband.net/jenslindmark/penaltyornot.mpg

There shouldn't have been a penalty, but, watching that situation live it looked like a clear penalty, espesially from Matsuokas perspective, he just called what he saw.

 

[psycho_dad*]

Well, I reaaly did not think the Finnish D was good, allowing so many shots on goal just will not cut against teams with finishing skills. Canada should be able to take Finland apart tomorrow.

They can let swedes shoot from distance, Rask is good enough to stop those. They were obviously just focusing on clearing the rebounds and the front of the net. It worked, but wont work with Canada.

 

[gib]

People are bagging on Joensuu, but he's been a lot more noticeable since the Canada game. He got pretty involved tonight.

I didn`t notice Joensuu that much. I think he lost almoust all corner battles there and I just hated him in PP. Did nothing there and I was hoping Aravirta would put someone else to his place. He just isn`t playing with the confidense he plays in Finland. I don`t know if he is taking too much pressure about playing good. But it feels like he`s playing with handbrake on.

 

[Riddarn]

The same argument made for Wirtanen and Viklunds penalties could be made for 70% of all penalties in this game. Som very weak penalties indeed. The only thing that was positive was that the ref was equally bad on both sides of the ice.

I don't know whats wrong with the refs in this tournament but I surely hope they cut that s**t out until the Olympics..

 

[Slitty]

A deserved win! Go Finland!

Not really at all...

Not being Swedish or Finish there were tears in my eyes when Finland scored, they were lucky to still be in the game, Sweden deserved it so much more. With a reather questionable goal, you gotta feel for the Swedes.

Oh well.

 

[Macman]

What a snorefest. Little wonder since both teams were trapping from the halfway mark on. The shots were a little misleading. Rask made some nice saves, but there weren't that many good scoring chances at either end. Backstrom looks like a good one.

The Swedes are in serious need of a good sports psychologist. They continue to lose games they should win.

 

[psycho_dad*]

The same argument made for Wirtanen and Viklunds penalties could be made for 70% of all penalties in this game. Som very weak penalties indeed. The only thing that was positive was that the ref was equally bad on both sides of the ice.

I don't know whats wrong with the refs in this tournament but I surely hope they cut that s**t out until the Olympics..

Completely agreed.

 

[SChan*]

The Swedes are in serious need of a good sports psychologist. They continue to lose games they should win.

Funny how you mentioned it. It was in yesterdays paper that a psychologist said that the swedish teams needs a sports psychologist. The swedish management said nonsense of course.

 

[Matti_A]

Cheer up Swedes

Very tough loss tonite for you Swedes. It seems like in the wjc's the finns are doing the same thing to you as the Swedish men's team has done to us for 100 years (come from behind victories and late goals).
We finns sure know how u feel.
Thats why this victory feels so good, some payback atlast.

The future is still bright for Sweden with Bergfors and Bäckström, what a dominant effort tonight.

 

[Joe MacMillan]

Not really at all...

Not being Swedish or Finish there were tears in my eyes when Finland scored, they were lucky to still be in the game, Sweden deserved it so much more. With a reather questionable goal, you gotta feel for the Swedes.

Oh well.

We feel for them.

But anyways, I'm happy about the win but we're gonna get beaten by Canada in semis, that's for sure.

 

[SChan*]

Very tough loss tonite for you Swedes. It seems like in the wjc's the finns are doing the same thing to you as the Swedish men's team has done to us for 100 years (come from behind victories and late goals).
We finns sure know how u feel.
Thats why this victory feels so good, some payback atlast.

The future is still bright for Sweden with Bergfors and Bäckström, what a dominant effort tonight.

Thanks. That's sportsmanship. Good luck against Canada. I guess it's not impossible to beat them with rask in goal.

rask is an iron wall.


I like it better when swedes and finns get along.

 

[AndersEriksson*]

This is a 'devil you know' situation for me, so go Finland. I haven't seen the Swedes yet, but I'm not afraid of Rask at all. So I hope the Finns make it to the semis.

Nice jinx. Expect a Rask shutout tonight.

As I expected. Le Golie decided the game by jinxing Rask even before the game had started. You are now the enemy of the Swedish people and I will make it my purpose from now on to find you and stuff lutfisk down your throat

Don't Ever Ever jinx a goalie like that before a game. Worst move ever.

 

[Riddarn]

The swedish management said nonsense of course.

Well, it is nonsense. 80% of our shots on goal were totally unecessary and helped the finns more than it did us. Swedish teams need to play another style of hockey. We don't even create good counter attacks using the trap anymore. You can count the number of good transitional rushes by the swedes on your left hand. Instead we waste energy trying to play some kind of puck possession game.. And this is how the SEL teams play and how the "grown up" national team plays.. it's not effective.

 

[Joe MacMillan]

Very tough loss tonite for you Swedes. It seems like in the wjc's the finns are doing the same thing to you as the Swedish men's team has done to us for 100 years (come from behind victories and late goals).
We finns sure know how u feel.
Thats why this victory feels so good, some payback atlast.

The future is still bright for Sweden with Bergfors and Bäckström, what a dominant effort tonight.

Yeah, cheer up Swedes! You had a very good team out there and IMO you played much better than we did, but Rask was the difference. Too bad it ended like this way.

 

[kjri]

That is just the problem with this team

Our lame D affects also greatly to our offensive play. We can`t create offense, because first passes never get to the forwards. When playing PP our defenders can`t do nothing else than shoot the puck. So easy to predict for opponent.

Because this team is unable to create offence, we are playing defence over and over and over again..
If the same goes on with Canada we have no chance. Let's hope that Canada is worse in their forecheck than Sweden.

Even Aravirta's 1+1+3 is a solid system i think we should play 2-man forecheck against Canada. Simply to prevent them forechecking our D.