WJC: Canada's #1 goaltender

[Freaky Habs Fan]

Just want to know if Pogge, Dubnyk and Ellis can return next year...?

 

[canucksfan]

Just want to know if Pogge, Dubnyk and Ellis can return next year...?

Neither one of them can return next year.

 

[Peter]

Keetley just isn't getting the love here he deserves. He basically stold the #1 position from Nastiuk last year (and Nastiuk is a very, very good goalie) and he is dominating this year. IMO, Keeltey is the best WHL goalie right now and deserves to be at least considered for the WJC. I am not saying he should be there...but he gets an invite and perhaps a chance to start next year.

 

[Freaky Habs Fan]

Keetley just isn't getting the love here he deserves. He basically stold the #1 position from Nastiuk last year (and Nastiuk is a very, very good goalie) and he is dominating this year. IMO, Keeltey is the best WHL goalie right now and deserves to be at least considered for the WJC. I am not saying he should be there...but he gets an invite and perhaps a chance to start next year.

Sorry, Carey Price will be the starter next year

...but Keetley can back him up

 

[HFNHL Canadiens]

Yeah, you're probably right. And Price will probably be there for sure because if he's not #1 this year, he will be the starter next year for sure...

If I'm right, all of Dubnyk, Ellis and Pogge can't return next year...

And Ellis isn't having an amazing season...2.93, 0.913...it's good but not great

thats quite impressive numbers for the QMJHL




Ellis is clearly the best goaltender for Team Canada but since he is from the QMJHL, he will not make the team. The to temders that will make the team will be from the WHL.

 

[Freaky Habs Fan]

thats quite impressive numbers for the QMJHL

Sorry, not impressive for me. Good but not impressive.

Ellis is clearly the best goaltender for Team Canada

Clearly? I don't think so. He might be the best, but clearly? No. And IMO, we will only be able to judge who's the best G at the traning camp because Price and Dubsnyk are on a pretty bad team...

 

[aspin]

I am curious, I had read posts about his Training Camp with the Oilers and how he was struggling... Was this true? Were you able to see him in action at all? Not meant offensively, just more out of curiousity.

No he did not have a bad camp. That was Deslauriers you maybe read about. Deslauriers came in less than stellar shape apparantly. although he is playing fairly well for Hamilton now that he is getting some games in.

 

[Anksun]

No he did not have a bad camp. That was Deslauriers you maybe read about. Deslauriers came in less than stellar shape apparantly. although he is playing fairly well for Hamilton now that he is getting some games in.

I doubt he will keep getting too much games in Hamilton from now and on however. I dont want to be pessimistic for the Oilers fans, but Yan Danis have been returned to the AHL last week and it has been done to leave the backup job for Huet but mostly to give Danis a lot of occassions to play. He will get the nod.

edit: as for the wjc starting job. As bad as Price's october performance was, he's been absolutly stellar in november and the numbers are above anything that could be logically asked of the Tri-City goalie, if he keeps it up for december, he will get the nod.

 

[HFNHL Canadiens]

Sorry, not impressive for me. Good but not impressive.




Clearly? I don't think so. He might be the best, but clearly? No. And IMO, we will only be able to judge who's the best G at the traning camp because Price and Dubsnyk are on a pretty bad team...

look at MA Fleury's QMJHL stats, there similar if not worse than Ellis, so how can the not be impressive?

 

[Slot 3]

nah Poggemon will watch Pokemon instead

And I throw my dice with.........Ellis!

 

[Freaky Habs Fan]

look at MA Fleury's QMJHL stats, there similar if not worse than Ellis, so how can the not be impressive?

Don't know about you but I'm always thinking like if Ellis was with the eagles or Fleury was with the Cataracts...their stats would be different...maybe better, maybe worste, it's impossible to say. And one last time, Ellis stats are good, but not impressive for me...but they are still pretty good dude

 

[Mess]

The two goaltending jobs are wide open for a second straight year and the starter's job will be more of a key position for this year's team than it was for the gold-medal squad that gave up 15 shots or less a game.

Shawinigan's Julien Ellis-Plante and Calgary's Justin Pogge have put up the best numbers so far this season. Devan Dubnyk of the Kamloops Blazers and Carey Price of the Tri-City Americans are trailing those two in performance, but have international experience at the under-18 level.

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/news_story.asp?id=145319

 

[cyrisweb]

No. And IMO, we will only be able to judge who's the best G at the traning camp because Price and Dubsnyk are on a pretty bad team...

What I heard for the past two seasons is that Ellis is on one of the worse teams in the Q??

 

[Bad News Benning]

What I heard for the past two seasons is that Ellis is on one of the worse teams in the Q??

The team isn't bad record wise, but yes, the defense is horrible, Ellis backup has a GAA over 2 goals higher. His DS% is 0.45 and he faces over 32 shots a game so it's hard for any goalie to have great stats behind that crappy defense.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Not to diss the QMJHL in terms of goalies, but one has to wonder whether or not they're mentally sharp enough to carry the mantle. I mean, before Jeff Glass last year, we've gone through the following goalies: Luongo, Ouellette, Leclair, and Fleury, and we've come up short. The last goalie from the Q we won with was Marc Denis. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's a bad thing that the goalies from WHL are better suited for this type of tournament. It seems like they're mentally sharper and that they don't lose their composure.

 

[LaLaLaprise]

Not to diss the QMJHL in terms of goalies, but one has to wonder whether or not they're mentally sharp enough to carry the mantle. I mean, before Jeff Glass last year, we've gone through the following goalies: Luongo, Ouellette, Leclair, and Fleury, and we've come up short. The last goalie from the Q we won with was Marc Denis. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's a bad thing that the goalies from WHL are better suited for this type of tournament. It seems like they're mentally sharper and that they don't lose their composure.

Luongo wasnt the problem. Having Simon Gagne as the 13th forward was the problem. Underrating the Q back in 99 as well.

Ouellet and Leclair werent amazing by any stretch but their teams werent as stacked as in 2005.

Fleury was one of the best players in 2003 and in 2004 wasnt sharp at all.

Bottomline, Jeff Glass has had the best team in front of him in comparison to the last 6 years.

 

[Bad News Benning]

Not to diss the QMJHL in terms of goalies, but one has to wonder whether or not they're mentally sharp enough to carry the mantle. I mean, before Jeff Glass last year, we've gone through the following goalies: Luongo, Ouellette, Leclair, and Fleury, and we've come up short. The last goalie from the Q we won with was Marc Denis. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's a bad thing that the goalies from WHL are better suited for this type of tournament. It seems like they're mentally sharper and that they don't lose their composure.

The only one who had a meltdown really was Fleury, but the other 3 were basically the reason Canada even got a medal those years. The teams infront of the goalies those years simply didn't have enough game breaking talent to win the close games in the medal rounds, and got beat by better overall teams.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Luongo wasnt the problem. Having Simon Gagne as the 13th forward was the problem. Underrating the Q back in 99 as well.

Ouellet and Leclair werent amazing by any stretch but their teams werent as stacked as in 2005.

Fleury was one of the best players in 2003 and in 2004 wasnt sharp at all.

Bottomline, Jeff Glass has had the best team in front of him in comparison to the last 6 years.

Didn't Gagne lead the tournament in scoring back in '99 or tie a record for scoring?

 

[Aaron Vickers]

The only one who had a meltdown really was Fleury, but the other 3 were basically the reason Canada even got a medal those years. The teams infront of the goalies those years simply didn't have enough game breaking talent to win the close games in the medal rounds, and got beat by better overall teams.

Leclaire let in a pair of weak goals against the Russians in the gold medal game as a starter. He didn't have a meltdown, but he certainly could've played better.

 

[Freaky Habs Fan]

Not to diss the QMJHL in terms of goalies, but one has to wonder whether or not they're mentally sharp enough to carry the mantle. I mean, before Jeff Glass last year, we've gone through the following goalies: Luongo, Ouellette, Leclair, and Fleury, and we've come up short. The last goalie from the Q we won with was Marc Denis. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's a bad thing that the goalies from WHL are better suited for this type of tournament. It seems like they're mentally sharper and that they don't lose their composure.

I think you're right...Ellis was crying at the draft day because he wasn't gone after the 5th round

 

[Freaky Habs Fan]

It's now official, the four goaltender at camp will be Price, Dubnyk, Ellis and Pogge.

 

[LaLaLaprise]

Didn't Gagne lead the tournament in scoring back in '99 or tie a record for scoring?

In 1998 Canada took Tanguay as the 13th F and he led the team in scoring.
In 1999 Canada took Gagne as the 13th G and he led the team in scoring.
In 2000 Canada took Reid as the 13th F and I believe he led the team in scoring.

Makes ya think.

 

[Jyroe Habs Fan]

The PRICE is Right Beaatch!!!!!!!!!!!

Carey Price


Pogge won't even be #2, the Hitmen Defence is carrying the load in Calgary.

 

[Flames Draft Watcher]

In 1998 Canada took Tanguay as the 13th F and he led the team in scoring.
In 1999 Canada took Gagne as the 13th G and he led the team in scoring.
In 2000 Canada took Reid as the 13th F and I believe he led the team in scoring.

Makes ya think.

Or perhaps you're mislabelling them as 13th forwards to make your argument that they underrate the Q? That's what I think. Kind of hard for a forward to lead the team in scoring as the 13th guy isn't it? That doesn't really make any sense.

 

[Lessy]

Not to diss the QMJHL in terms of goalies, but one has to wonder whether or not they're mentally sharp enough to carry the mantle. I mean, before Jeff Glass last year, we've gone through the following goalies: Luongo, Ouellette, Leclair, and Fleury, and we've come up short. The last goalie from the Q we won with was Marc Denis. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's a bad thing that the goalies from WHL are better suited for this type of tournament. It seems like they're mentally sharper and that they don't lose their composure.

Luongo turned in arguably one of the best goaltending performances in World Junior history when he started for Canada. I can remember that gold medal game Canada lost in overtime and Luongo was just brilliant all tournament long. Fleury was outstanding in 03 and Ouellet was just fine in his year as starter. The only goalies that really had meltdowns out of that list were Leclaire and Fleury in 04.