WJC: Canada's #1 goaltender

[USC Trojans]

Patrick Roy always said if you want to be an NHL goalie, you gotta play for the worst team in the countrie.

Same with Dubnyk then...Kamloops has been pretty bad and Dubnyk has bailed them out many times. His team gives away a lot of PP opportunities.

 

[LaLaLaprise]

What a solid argument.

And using stats isnt really a solid argument either.

Patrick Roy had a GAA of 4.90 in junior...guess he sucked.

Saying why goalie X should be on the team because of his wicked stats is idiotic.

 

[Bring Back Smyth]

Here's my homer commentary coming up:

Patrick Roy always said if you want to be an NHL goalie, you gotta play for the worst team in the countrie. Carey Price is doing just that. He had a very rough time at the start of the season but right now, he's picking it up big time and looks to be back in great shape. His numbers for november are very impressive and even more so considering the team he plays for. Add that to the fact he's been stellar since coming into the WHL despite a poor team and a strong showing at the NHL camp, I think he should get the nod, or at least, I'm hoping he will.
He's also very big, agile and his puck control is top notch.

Exact same can be said for Dubnyk..

 

[Puckz]

Kamloops is an above .500 team (16W-13L) although in a tough division. There are 12 teams behind Kamloops in the WHL... Tri-Cities (Price) is only better than 3 other teams in terms of points. I guess you could say that applied more to last season (Dubnyk playing on a mediocre team), but he didn't make the team last year either...

 

[Rand]

Patrick Roy always said if you want to be an NHL goalie, you gotta play for the worst team in the countrie.

Am I the only one to whom this makes no sense....you can't be an NHL goalie unless you play for the worst team in the country?
I find that whole concept to be baffling.

 

[Bring Back Smyth]

Am I the only one to whom this makes no sense....you can't be an NHL goalie unless you play for the worst team in the country?
I find that whole concept to be baffling.

The worse the team, the more shots he faces the less help he gets from good defense. Leaving you hung out to dry every game, increasing your stamina and developing you as a better goaltender in the end.

 

[Rand]

The worse the team, the more shots he faces the less help he gets from good defense. Leaving you hung out to dry every game, increasing your stamina and developing you as a better goaltender in the end.

Oh, I agree that getting a lot of work is a good thng.. as long as it doesn't get to the point wherein your overworked, or the entire team relies upon you to perform.

But saying you must play on the worst team in the country to be an NHL'er?
This makes... no sense to me. Why would a goalie be incapable of developing if he plays for a strong team?
Somehow I'm doubting your going to see a sudden mass deluge of every goaltending prospect demanding to be traded to a worse team.

 

[USC Trojans]

Kamloops is an above .500 team (16W-13L) although in a tough division.

cause Dubnyk bailed them out in those 16 games.

 

[Puckz]

cause Dubnyk bailed them out in those 16 games.

Hahaha, make it 14 Maniago has won two I'm not saying Dubnyk isn't a good goalie, and he does have his days... But I think he's overrated, I don't think he was first round material, his size was a big part of that... And from what I read on these boards, he had a horrible training camp this year with the Oilers. Sure he's doing okay, but if Canada is relying on him, I think they'll be in trouble.

 

[Habsaku]

Exact same can be said for Dubnyk..

Lets send them both then, I dont really care(although his team is above .500 , they arent as terrible as Tri City), I'm rooting for Price obviously because he's habs property.

Am I the only one to whom this makes no sense....you can't be an NHL goalie unless you play for the worst team in the country?

, that wasnt the point:

The worse the team, the more shots he faces the less help he gets from good defense. Leaving you hung out to dry every game, increasing your stamina and developing you as a better goaltender in the end

Patrick Roy's point was that if you play with the worst team in the league, you're gonna developp a lot faster and better then with good ones.

 

[Bring Back Smyth]

Lets send them both then, I dont really care(although his team is above .500 , they arent as terrible as Tri City), I'm rooting for Price obviously because he's habs property.

Yes as I am rooting for Dubnyk obviously because he's Edmonton property.

Patrick Roy's point was that if you play with the worst team in the league, you're gonna developp a lot faster and better then with good ones.

Which supports the idea of my original post.

 

[Puckz]

Yes as I am rooting for Dubnyk obviously because he's Edmonton property.

I am curious, I had read posts about his Training Camp with the Oilers and how he was struggling... Was this true? Were you able to see him in action at all? Not meant offensively, just more out of curiousity.

 

[Bring Back Smyth]

I am curious, I had read posts about his Training Camp with the Oilers and how he was struggling... Was this true? Were you able to see him in action at all? Not meant offensively, just more out of curiousity.

That's not true at all. He had a pretty solid camp and looked good in the pre-season games. Nothing spectacularly outrageous or anything. But a pretty good camp nonetheless. Perhaps Guy Flaming can give you a more sufficient response to this.

 

[Maithz]

I think they should go with the 2 goaltenders with an NHL experience so Carey Price and Devan Dubnyk

 

[Asiaoil]

Dubnyk's line for November:

643:26Min 332SH 308SV 24GA 7-4WL 2.24GAA 0.928SP 1SO

That is a fantastic month given the pathetic team he plays behind, the number of PP opportunities he faces every night (Kamloops is a penelty taking machine) and the number of shots he sees every game (7 of the 11 games had 30+ shots). Dubnyk was also solid at Oilers training camp and was better than Jeff Deslaurier who is 2 years older.

Price's stats for the month are even a bit better - those are your guys for the WJC

 

[Puckz]

I think they should go with the 2 goaltenders with an NHL experience so Carey Price and Devan Dubnyk

I'm not sure I follow? What do you mean by NHL experience? All four players have been in an NHL training camp as far as I know...

 

[Maithz]

I'm not sure I follow? What do you mean by NHL experience? All four players have been in an NHL training camp as far as I know...

sorry I didn't know that Ellis and Pogge were in the training camp

 

[Rabid Ranger]

This is like a dream come true for CAnuck fans...

One of our draft picks.. let alone a goalie is being talked about for the number 1 job in the world junuior championchips. Ohhh I can't wait!! GO ELLIS! GO!

Not to mention the starter for the U.S. in Cory Schneider.

 

[Rob]

Who is the best candidate from the Q?

 

[Puckz]

Who is the best candidate from the Q?

Julien Ellis from Shawnigan

 

[cyrisweb]

sorry I didn't know that Ellis and Pogge were in the training camp

Not only did he go but Ellis also played fairly well at his first NHL camp and opened some eyes.

 

[Form and Substance]

In all honesty, I would take Ellis over Price and Dubnyk as starter. The Canucks have a steal and a potential gamebreaker in their hands. I hope Price gets backup duties though.

 

[blink]

well...i'm glad i have both Dubnyk and Price in my keeper league....hopefully they both make it...

my feeling is that it will be Price and Dubnyk...not only for the above reason (obviously i'm hoping though) but for the Sutter factor...last year he loaded the team with WHLers and I can see him doing the same thing with the goalies this time around...

I can see both of them splitting time during the round-robin but Price will be the man during the medal round...

 

[flambers]

well...i'm glad i have both Dubnyk and Price in my keeper league....hopefully they both make it...

my feeling is that it will be Price and Dubnyk...not only for the above reason (obviously i'm hoping though) but for the Sutter factor...last year he loaded the team with WHLers and I can see him doing the same thing with the goalies this time around...

I can see both of them splitting time during the round-robin but Price will be the man during the medal round...

If its the Sutter factor he will take Justin Poggie, obviously Sutter has seen this guy play allot.

 

[Freaky Habs Fan]

well...i'm glad i have both Dubnyk and Price in my keeper league....hopefully they both make it...

my feeling is that it will be Price and Dubnyk...not only for the above reason (obviously i'm hoping though) but for the Sutter factor...last year he loaded the team with WHLers and I can see him doing the same thing with the goalies this time around...

I can see both of them splitting time during the round-robin but Price will be the man during the medal round...

Yeah, you're probably right. And Price will probably be there for sure because if he's not #1 this year, he will be the starter next year for sure...

If I'm right, all of Dubnyk, Ellis and Pogge can't return next year...

And Ellis isn't having an amazing season...2.93, 0.913...it's good but not great