With the 14th overall selection in the 2023 NHL Entry Draft, the Pittsburgh Penguins select…

[BusinessGoose]

I'm leery of drafting a D. This team isn't very good at it. They've drafted exactly 2 top 4 D since 2005. Plus the system is completely void of forward talent. At least on D you might have Smith and Pickering.

Defense is so far from a need. They need someone who can bury a damn puck, or, someone who can make a high danger save. That's all. Not a defender.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I don't think this team can really turn its nose up at drafting anybody based on position. They could use anything and everything, and even by the most optimistic standards, odds are whoever is picked isn't gonna be seeing NHL ice time until after Sid's done anyway.

Just go with BPA and hope you actually land the BPA, and don't end up looking back in like a decade and grumbling because you ended up with a Broz instead of a Pastrnak.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

I don't think this team can really turn its nose up at drafting anybody based on position. They could use anything and everything, and even by the most optimistic standards, odds are whoever is picked isn't gonna be seeing NHL ice time until after Sid's done anyway.

Just got with BPA and hope you actually land the BPA, and don't end up looking back in like a decade and grumbling because you ended up with a Broz instead of a Pastrnak.

Exactly my thought. BPA should be the mantra for the next few drafts

 

[The Old Master]

Exactly my thought. BPA should be the mantra for the next few drafts

with how high we are picking and the way players are scattered, tells me in the group we are going to pick from are all fairly even. so rather than picked someone who is .001 better than someone else, I think you need to pick the hardest pos. to fill. (rd or a center, and a rh one would be even better) now if someone drops, then sure pick t.b.p.a.
edit; you can add the highest upside too.

 

[Wattsburgh]

Changed my selection with Dubas all aboard. I think Matthew Wood is now going to be the pick.

 

[McGroarty2]

Changed my selection with Dubas all aboard. I think Matthew Wood is now going to be the pick.

 

[Wattsburgh]

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Dubas in 20 years after Wood is in HOF?

 

[The Old Master]

Changed my selection with Dubas all aboard. I think Matthew Wood is now going to be the pick.

as big as he is soft. sully will love him

 

[Lust for Life]

Something interesting to consider: either pick 14th or trade back a few positions to get more picks?

 

[WickedWrister]

Something interesting to consider: either pick 14th or trade back a few positions to get more picks?

Yeah, I think this is probably going to be the play. Trade back, recoup that 2nd round pick + future assets. Restock the cupboard. IIRC trading back was his first official move as GM of the Leafs when he took over back in 2018.

 

[The Old Master]

Something interesting to consider: either pick 14th or trade back a few positions to get more picks?

hard call to make......while the players are close to each other, the ones with the most up-side and in the prime positions are not that many.

 

[Turin]

Something interesting to consider: either pick 14th or trade back a few positions to get more picks?

Or package it with a player to get a more useful player now and a later pick or two.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Something interesting to consider: either pick 14th or trade back a few positions to get more picks?

Just how many picks and what round would you expect to receive to move back even ten or fifteen spots?

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I'd be shopping the pick hard to improve the roster. It's our best non-roster trade asset by a good margin.

 

[CallArnoldSlick]

A trade back could help clear dead cap space off the books. Last year Dubas traded 25th overall for 38th overall to get rid of Petr Mrazek. A first round pick at 14 probably isn't going to provide any more chance at immediate help to the Penguins compared to a late first or early second (and quite frankly has about the same likelihood to work out in general), so it could be a move to help the current roster while still adding a decent prospect for the future.

Also, Dubas traded the Leafs' first rounder in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023, so a move is certainly possible.

 

[Pens x]

He’s trading the pick unless he isn’t trying to truly contend.

 

[Lust for Life]

Just how many picks and what round would you expect to receive to move back even ten or fifteen spots?

Looking back at the straight up draft pick deals the last few years:

2022: Coyotes traded #11 for #27, #34 and #45
2021: Red Wings traded #15 for #23, #48 and #138
2021: Wild traded #20 for #22 and #90
2019: Coyotes traded #11 for #14 and #45

So something in that area, moving back 2-8-ish spots for an additional second rounder. Depending of course of trade partners in that area that want to move up.

 

[Jacob]

Anyone have 2 late 1sts? That’s probably fair value for a 12-15 pick.

 

[Lust for Life]

Anyone have 2 late 1sts? That’s probably fair value for a 12-15 pick.

St. Louis have #25 and #29. Sharks have #26 and #36 for an early 2nd rounder.

Edit: Red Wings have #17 and then #41, 42 and 43. They might be more willing to part with one of them.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Anyone have 2 late 1sts? That’s probably fair value for a 12-15 pick.

Depending how pessimistic I want to be, I've got the 14th being equivalent to two mid-2nd round picks.

 

[SomeDude]

He’s trading the pick unless he isn’t trying to truly contend.

That's not true. In the spot we're in, if a player falls it would probably be more valuable to draft that guy and use him as a trade chip like Shero did with Esposito. Having a prospect with name recognition is a more valuable asset than an unknown mid-late 1st.

 

[Pens x]

That's not true. In the spot we're in, if a player falls it would probably be more valuable to draft that guy and use him as a trade chip like Shero did with Esposito. Having a prospect with name recognition is a more valuable asset than an unknown mid-late 1st.

Are people knocking down our door for Pickering? I wasn’t aware.

 

[Ryder71]

He’s trading the pick unless he isn’t trying to truly contend.

He's not trading the pick, stop it! The only positive from last season is that we got 14th OA. He can make that pick and still build a competitive team.

Why the hell would you trade a pick in a deep draft considering our prospect pool is nearly empty? It makes no sense. Trading 14 OA doesn't make us a cup contender, my lord!

Are people knocking down our door for Pickering? I wasn’t aware.

Pickering was what 21 or 23 OA in a ho hum draft? You're comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Lust for Life]

Found this link while browsing other message boards: Realgud draft simulator

Allows you to simulate the draft this year, this was my draft:

14 (1). Brayden Yager (C)
90 (3). Hunter Brzustewicz (RD)
142 (5). Matthew Mania (RD)
174 (6). Isac Born (C)
217 (7). Jan Spunar (G)
221 (7). Justin Kipkie (LD)

Obviously nothing more than a fun five minutes when you're bored at work.

 

[Jacob]

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[TR]
[TD]My picks:[/TD]
[TD]14 (1). Axel Sandin Pellikka (RD)
90 (3). William Whitelaw (RW)
142 (5). Jaden Lipinski (C)
174 (6). Damian Clara (G)
217 (7). Jordan Tourigny (RD)
221 (7). Ty Higgins (RD)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Just went by name vibes and stats for the later picks.

Couple productive forwards, a huge goalie, a couple productive, smaller RD.