Confirmed with Link: Winnipeg signs G Laurent Brossoit (1 year, 650k)

[Whileee]

I do not think it’s prudent.
You can caveat with “given what we know” and that would better cover that avenue.

Recognizing that you might not know some important things is a prudent approach, I find.

 

[Tommigun]

Hutch will also have to clear waivers if he doesn’t make the Panthers. Would be weird if Jets had claim him.

Him, Mason and Pavelec.

 

[JetsFan815]

Weird. Smart, but weird.

Still cannot believe we let Hutch go, if his replacement was going to be Brossoit.

The only reason I can think of for letting Hutch go would be that the bridge was too far burnt... even for Hutch it seems like being a backup in Winnipeg is a much better situation than being the clear 3rd goalie in Florida. And for the Jets are the 650k worth of cap savings really worth taking that big a risk at the backup goalie position (a goalie that ideally you want playing ~20-25 games in the regular season)? Hutch would atleast provide us with reliable .905 or higher goaltending.

 

[Jets4Life]

The only reason I can think of for letting Hutch go would be that the bridge was too far burnt... even for Hutch it seems like being a backup in Winnipeg is a much better situation than being the clear 3rd goalie in Florida.

I don't believe Hutch burned the bridge so far that it was irreparable. Looking back, IIRC, all he voiced was his frustration for not playing more on the Jets, as he was having a career year in the AHL. He did have a point. Why call up Comrie or Mason, if Hutch is playing better than both of them?

And for the Jets are the 650k worth of cap savings really worth taking that big a risk at the backup goalie position (a goalie that ideally you want playing ~20-25 games in the regular season)? Hutch would atleast provide us with reliable .905 or higher goaltending.

I don't believe so. I wish the Jets could ahve went out and took a reliable backup goalie for slightly more ($1.0-1.25m), than play the guessing game with Brossoit.

 

[Whileee]

The only reason I can think of for letting Hutch go would be that the bridge was too far burnt... even for Hutch it seems like being a backup in Winnipeg is a much better situation than being the clear 3rd goalie in Florida. And for the Jets are the 650k worth of cap savings really worth taking that big a risk at the backup goalie position (a goalie that ideally you want playing ~20-25 games in the regular season)? Hutch would atleast provide us with reliable .905 or higher goaltending.

I liked Hutch, and would have liked to keep him. But I think that he needed and deserved a fresh start.

I think we need to think about cap space is somewhat different terms, now that the Jets are real contenders and might want to take on rentals at the TDL. 650k translates into almost $2.9M in deadline cap space.

 

[JetsFan815]

I liked Hutch, and would have liked to keep him. But I think that he needed and deserved a fresh start.

I think we need to think about cap space is somewhat different terms, now that the Jets are real contenders and might want to take on rentals at the TDL. 650k translates into almost $2.9M in deadline cap space.

Difference between a 890 and a 908 backup goalie is the difference between being a president's trophy contender and being bubble team or having a fresh goalie for the playoffs or one that is dog tired being forced to carry the overwhelming load. I would take those wins any day over the capspace.

 

[puck stoppa]

The only reason I can think of for letting Hutch go would be that the bridge was too far burnt... even for Hutch it seems like being a backup in Winnipeg is a much better situation than being the clear 3rd goalie in Florida. And for the Jets are the 650k worth of cap savings really worth taking that big a risk at the backup goalie position (a goalie that ideally you want playing ~20-25 games in the regular season)? Hutch would atleast provide us with reliable .905 or higher goaltending.

Hutch was brutal the season before! Started the year 1-9 or something like that, couldn't stop a beach ball which forced them to play Helly too much. It's why he was in AHL last year and isn't back. He had his chance and stunk up the joint. How quickly people forget why the Jets lost faith in him.
There is a reason he signed as number three in Florida, that's what he is a third string goalie and that was his best option.

 

[BigZ65]

Florida is the cheapest team in the league but they are spending 1.3 million on a 3rd goalie? I feel like there’s something we’re missing.

 

[Whileee]

Difference between a 890 and a 908 backup goalie is the difference between being a president's trophy contender and being bubble team or having a fresh goalie for the playoffs or one that is dog tired being forced to carry the overwhelming load. I would take those wins any day over the capspace.

I suppose that the Jets are expecting more than .890 from Brossoit, or whoever backs up Hellebuyck. I doubt that anyone here can say with confidence which back-up will be .890 and which will be .906 this upcoming season. Will it be Chad Johnson, who put up an .891 over 36 games last season? Mrazek (0.891)? Hammond?

I think the Jets will keep an open mind about the need to bring in another backup if Brossoit isn't panning out early in the season. But it seems like a good idea not to pay much for a backup, unless you are really sure he'll be superior to other goalies.

 

[Jets 31]

I hope Brossoit can play because even with Mason last season every time Helly didn't start , i clenched the whole game .

 

[ERYX]

I suppose that the Jets are expecting more than .890 from Brossoit, or whoever backs up Hellebuyck. I doubt that anyone here can say with confidence which back-up will be .890 and which will be .906 this upcoming season. Will it be Chad Johnson, who put up an .891 over 36 games last season? Mrazek (0.891)? Hammond?

I think the Jets will keep an open mind about the need to bring in another backup if Brossoit isn't panning out early in the season. But it seems like a good idea not to pay much for a backup, unless you are really sure he'll be superior to other goalies.

I was feeling quite nervous about going into the season with Brossoit as backup, but after reading this post I am reminded that "goalies are voodoo" and several supposedly superior backups posted some pretty bad numbers last year. So now the Brossoit move makes a bit more sense, might as well give him a shot since a Johnson, a Mrazek,or Hammond is by no means a sure thing either.

 

[puck stoppa]

Florida is the cheapest team in the league but they are spending 1.3 million on a 3rd goalie? I feel like there’s something we’re missing.

It's a two way deal, so he only gets that if he's in nhl which isn't likely.
At least that's what I read. But cap friendly says one way.
Maybe it's cause luongo is always hurt?

 

[puck stoppa]

I suppose that the Jets are expecting more than .890 from Brossoit, or whoever backs up Hellebuyck. I doubt that anyone here can say with confidence which back-up will be .890 and which will be .906 this upcoming season. Will it be Chad Johnson, who put up an .891 over 36 games last season? Mrazek (0.891)? Hammond?

I think the Jets will keep an open mind about the need to bring in another backup if Brossoit isn't panning out early in the season. But it seems like a good idea not to pay much for a backup, unless you are really sure he'll be superior to other goalies.

Correct. Need to save money. Why pay double for goalies with similar numbers when you can have the same for league minimum. There wasn't much out there, and the few good ones got way too much money.

 

[puck stoppa]

Did Sateri sign with anyone? I see wings snagged him, I like him.

 

[ffh]

Should have signed pavs for a million.

 

[cbcwpg]

Should have signed pavs for a million.

Well, his numbers were a little better than Mason last season, who is still available.

17 goalies list on CapFriendly as being UFA. 5 of them were Thrashers or Jets property at one time.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I don't feel comfortable with our current goalie situation. Hopefully something happens on the keeper front between now and start of season. Even though it can be seen as a mistake now, I supported and still support the fact that Chevy went out and got Mason last year. He was addressing an issue that went unaddressed for 5 years in Winnipeg and probably cost us a year or two of post season. So even though Mason and his weirdo injury year was a bust, it was the right thing to do to attempt to address that issue. Getting Croissant seems like we are going into the season with a number 1 and a number 3 goalie. We saw last year just how much goaltending affects the team performance in the standings. If Helle was league average, we were on the high side of a playoff bubble team last year. So can our real backup please raise your hand, at least do so before the drop of the puck in Sept? 'It's ok, goalies are voodoo' doesn't seem like a sound strategy to me.

 

[cbcwpg]

I don't feel comfortable with our current goalie situation. Hopefully something happens on the keeper front between now and start of season. Even though it can be seen as a mistake now, I supported and still support the fact that Chevy went out and got Mason last year. He was addressing an issue that went unaddressed for 5 years in Winnipeg and probably cost us a year or two of post season. So even though Mason and his weirdo injury year was a bust, it was the right thing to do to attempt to address that issue. Getting Croissant seems like we are going into the season with a number 1 and a number 3 goalie. We saw last year just how much goaltending affects the team performance in the standings. If Helle was league average, we were on the high side of a playoff bubble team last year. So can our real backup please raise your hand, at least do so before the drop of the puck in Sept? 'It's ok, goalies are voodoo' doesn't seem like a sound strategy to me.

Can't be understated more. Not really being talked about, but as of today ( July 3 ) the Jets DO NOT have a backup goalie IMO. And by a backup, I mean someone who could play 20-25 games and actually have a reasonable expectation of being able to win them. And a backup that if Helly does suffer any kind of injury, we aren't automatically writing off those games he's hurt.

We don't have that guy.

 

[Trinity]

If Brossoit is sent to the AHL during the season, does his salary count against the cap?

 

[Gm0ney]

If Brossoit is sent to the AHL during the season, does his salary count against the cap?

No. If he's in the AHL it would not count anything towards the Jets' cap. The threshold is $1.025M per player - any cap hit over that would count against the big club's cap room.

 

[Trinity]

No. If he's in the AHL it would not count anything towards the Jets' cap. The threshold is $1.025M per player - any cap hit over that would count against the big club's cap room.

Then it is pretty clear to me this guy is just insurance and is leverage for Chevy in negotiations to obtain another goaltender who will be Helle's true backup.

 

[mondo3]

I'm guessing waiver wire pickup

 

[Trinity]

I'm guessing waiver wire pickup

Me too.

 

[surixon]

I'm guessing waiver wire pickup

This is my guess as well. They likely put in a claim for Sparks/Pikard

 

[Mathil8]

This is my guess as well. They likely put in a claim for Sparks/Pikard

Agreed. Honestly I'm not too worried about it because there will be multiple goalies hitting the waiver wire that could be capable back ups for close to league minimum. And as we know from previous years, goalies are very rarely claimed off of the waiver wire as most teams have their 2 guys picked before the season starts, even though we'd have second last pick we'd very likely still be able to grab a serviceable back up. Worse comes to worst they have their fall back of Brossoit, and could trade in season for a backup if he falters. Chevy could also currently be entertaining the idea of a trade for a cheap back up from another team either as it's own trade or a small part of another trade. Feels to me they're using Brossoit as insurance if the trade/waiver scenarios don't pan out. Based on what goalies were available for what money in free agency, I'm 100% fine with this course of action.