Confirmed with Link: Winnipeg signs G Laurent Brossoit (1 year, 650k)

[jetsforever]

Unexciting signing
I hope he stays on the Moose

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Unexciting signing
I hope he stays on the Moose

Hes gonna back up Helle. 1 year 1 way. Yeah we should have overpaid for a backup so we could then be forced to move a player who gets a regular shift.

 

[JetBrett]

Hearing about Brossoit being in the same camp with the same coaches as Helly makes me wonder if the Jets did their homework and heard from those involved that Brossoit might be able to make a leap, maybe not a Helly leap, but one where he can be a solid NHL goaltender.

 

[Poxsonus]

Dubnyk posted respectable numbers in Edmonton, save for one horrendous half season. He obviously improved significantly and benefited from getting out of Edmonton, there's no question.

Point is, I don't see Brossoit as some gem that we've dug up from the Oilers goalie graveyard.

Eh, he was run run out on rails if I remember correctly. I see a .894 over over 32 games in 2013-14 which, I assume, sealed his fate. I live in SK and I used to see a lot of Oilers (and Flames) games and I just felt for the guy. He was hung out to dry again and again and again. I had no problem believing that he would thrive elsewhere. My point is that there are times when stats need to be taken with a heavy grain of salt, particularly WRT save percentage. I'd like to see more of Brossoit with a structured D before I write him off. He needs to be a solid back-up. The Jets have their starter. YMMV

 

[surixon]

Hearing about Brossoit being in the same camp with the same coaches as Helly makes me wonder if the Jets did their homework and heard from those involved that Brossoit might be able to make a leap, maybe not a Helly leap, but one where he can be a solid NHL goaltender.

Chevy said he consulted with his goalie coaches extensively on it.

 

[Channelcat]

From what I can see, he will be Hellys backup.I'm OK with it......... Assuming of course that Helly is "lights out" and healthy

 

[Jimmyjets]

I’m good with the signing. League minimum and could work out. Have a competition with him and Comrie during training camp but I’m assuming the jets will pluck a backup tender off waivers at the start of the season. Hutch signing in Florida when they already have louongo and reimer under contract seems strange.

 

[Peggy]

I'm guessing that you haven't been following along. The Jets have a significant number of RFAs in need of new contracts. That's going to eat up a lot of money.

yeah I've looked. should all work out

we're not that stacked of a team to be over the cap

 

[Del Preston]

His nickname is "Croissant" (at least on our board) because Jim Hughson spent an entire game last season calling him "Broissant".

I hope he does well for the Jets.

 

[truck]

Brossoit's stats are heavily skewed. Like I previously stated, on a mediocre Oilers team he is mediocre. 2 years ago when the team played to 100+ points, he was a SOLID backup!

This would be compelling if it was true. 8 game goalie samples mean diddly. Maybe he'll be good. Maybe he won't. The splits 8 game / 14 game splits are not meaningful.

 

[Eyeseeing]

This would be compelling if it was true. 8 game goalie samples mean diddly. Maybe he'll be good. Maybe he won't. The splits 8 game / 14 game splits are not meaningful.

If the whole basis of signing this guy is because he has same trainer as Hellebucyk that is risky and possibly dumb.
Sounds like a cheap fix unless they have another target in mind.
Coaches teach all levels of students.
Students do not all reach the same levels of success even with the same teacher.
Time will tell
Pass the cilantro

 

[Hank Chinaski]

This would be compelling if it was true. 8 game goalie samples mean diddly. Maybe he'll be good. Maybe he won't. The splits 8 game / 14 game splits are not meaningful.

He does have a much larger sample in the AHL. 0.913 in 144 GP, which is decent but also nothing that screams "NHL goalie".

Brossoit hasn't impressed me in the games I've seen him. I think he's probably a better option than Comrie at this point, but that's really not saying much.

 

[Jets4Life]

Hes gonna back up Helle. 1 year 1 way. Yeah we should have overpaid for a backup so we could then be forced to move a player who gets a regular shift.

We could have had a much better reliable backup goalie, for under $1.5 million/year. Brossiot has a terrible record, is 25, and had only played 28 NHL games, and has an 0.897 save %. Why not just pick up Montoya instead? He was and has always been a reliable backup goalie. Even Hutchinson is far better than this guy. If Hellebuyck gets hurt, the Jets are in big trouble.

 

[mcpw]

We could have had a much better reliable backup goalie, for under $1.5 million/year. Brossiot has a terrible record, is 25, and had only played 28 NHL games, and has an 0.897 save %. Why not just pick up Montoya instead? He was and has always been a reliable backup goalie. Even Hutchinson is far better than this guy. If Hellebuyck gets hurt, the Jets are in big trouble.

Among the goalies who are projected to hit the waiver wire come camp:
Scott Wedgewood
Harri Sateri
Calvin Pickard
One of Curtis McElhinney and Garret Sparks
Jean-Francois Berube
Eddie Lack
Anton Forsberg
One of Alex Stalock and Andrew Hammond
Al Montoya
One of Peter Budaj and Jack Campbell

Unsigned remain:
Kari Lehtonen
Robin Lehner

I mean, I'm not advocating using the waiver wire as your actual strategy entering the season, but there are some names on there who might be worth taking a flyer on if Brossoit is the only real alternative. (not all the names I listed, but YMMV when it comes to each of them)

 

[WolfgangPuck]

Hutch will also have to clear waivers if he doesn’t make the Panthers. Would be weird if Jets had claim him.

 

[raideralex99]

If the whole basis of signing this guy is because he has same trainer as Hellebucyk that is risky and possibly dumb.
Sounds like a cheap fix unless they have another target in mind.
Coaches teach all levels of students.
Students do not all reach the same levels of success even with the same teacher.
Time will tell
Pass the cilantro

Are you seriously?
By knowing the trainer the Jets have inside info.
I remember when John Ferguson brought his friend Serge Savard to play for the Jets for 2 years before retiring and becoming the Habs GM. Savard saw Mike Keane play junior hockey when he was in Winnipeg ... 2 years later Keane went undrafted and Savard signed him as a free agent. That turned out to be a great pick up.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Hutch will also have to clear waivers if he doesn’t make the Panthers. Would be weird if Jets had claim him.

They won't cuz Hutch is a piece of crap

 

[Jet]

Cap issues are real. What are u expecting? For them to pay 2 3 millipn for a backup today?

Yes. Since a good backup that can be there in case of injury and give Helle rest to prevent injury and fatigue in the playoffs is worth more than a forward we really don't need.

So, yes.

Everyone wanted to drop 5MM on Stasny, because UFA when our forward core was plenty good without him. Spend money on needs, and right now the Jets biggest need is legit NHL goaltending depth.

 

[Easternbull]

Harri Sateri is a diamond in the ruff!

 

[Jets4Life]

Hutch will also have to clear waivers if he doesn’t make the Panthers. Would be weird if Jets had claim him.

Weird. Smart, but weird.

Still cannot believe we let Hutch go, if his replacement was going to be Brossoit.

They won't cuz Hutch is a piece of crap

Why is Hutch a piece of crap?

 

[mcpw]

Ya Hutchinson won't be back.

 

[Whileee]

How is that any better?

1) From a general sense, simply arguing the support in your argument, many GMs have gotten there. They've all done things that were wrong even without hindsight.

2) Also in general, being the tallest pony in the stable doesn't make you as tall as a horse. If the market it is inefficient, being the least inefficient doesn't make you optimized.

3) In the specific sense, that's still a crappy appeal to authority. The fact that they got to the conference finals last year does not mean every specific decision is correct based on that fact and that fact alone. You look at the specific evidence for and against the decision that was made, and you make an opinion on that decision based off that. You don't be a cult follower and simply say "the team did well so therefor I'm going to blindly say they must be right."

Again, I'm not arguing for or against Little's signing. I'm saying that --while anyone has the freedom to "give benefit of the doubt" in forming their own opinion-- you can't use that appeal as a catch all argument to support your case... or at least you cannot use it without someone else pointing out how bad that argument is.

Don't disagree, but I would add that there might be other factors that influence the decision, which aren't known by outsiders. For example, a player's down performance might be related to an unknown injury, that is discounted in decision making. Or it might be related to locker room issues that need to be cleared up. Or, it might be as simple as creating a culture of loyalty or honoring a personal commitment. Or maybe it is a cracy or impatient or miserly owner that influences decisions. External observers can make decisions unfettered by those types of considerations. It's not appealing to authority, but recognizing the complex context of decisions in a messy, results-based business. In the end, results matter, which are the result of a complex set of management decisions. As an example, it is unknowable whether the Jets success last season might have been influenced by the development of a mature culture of accountability, which sometimes involved having sub par "leaders" on the roster. There are plenty of examples of teams that underperformed expectations, where it becomes clear that there was a toxic culture, or a toxic player.

So, yes, GMs and coaches make mistakes, and often due to inadequate information or entrenched biases. But I think that it's prudent to give some benefit of doubt around some decisions.

 

[Whileee]

None of us have any real clue how he'll perform this year. Back-up goalies are impossible to predict reliably.

 

[garret9]

Don't disagree, but I would add that there might be other factors that influence the decision, which aren't known by outsiders. For example, a player's down performance might be related to an unknown injury, that is discounted in decision making. Or it might be related to locker room issues that need to be cleared up. Or, it might be as simple as creating a culture of loyalty or honoring a personal commitment. Or maybe it is a cracy or impatient or miserly owner that influences decisions. External observers can make decisions unfettered by those types of considerations. It's not appealing to authority, but recognizing the complex context of decisions in a messy, results-based business. In the end, results matter, which are the result of a complex set of management decisions. As an example, it is unknowable whether the Jets success last season might have been influenced by the development of a mature culture of accountability, which sometimes involved having sub par "leaders" on the roster. There are plenty of examples of teams that underperformed expectations, where it becomes clear that there was a toxic culture, or a toxic player.

So, yes, GMs and coaches make mistakes, and often due to inadequate information or entrenched biases. But I think that it's prudent to give some benefit of doubt around some decisions.

I do not think it’s prudent.
You can caveat with “given what we know” and that would better cover that avenue.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

As an example, it is unknowable whether the Jets success last season might have been influenced by the development of a mature culture of accountability, which sometimes involved having sub par "leaders" on the roster.

I think that's very possible. Hendricks